gamernut78

There  is new beta drivers recently released from Nvidia. Would love to see some testing from you maniac unless we all should wait for the WHQL for a final testing conclusion review.

yeah i would like to see if you can test them.
not because i want you to test them so i don't have to do it or i won't be the one
getting all the issues or problems they might have but because you're the one that
knows alot about bf3 and evertyhing related to it (even with the drivers you tested before).

Ugh! Seriously? Horrible. I have the classified. I may test. But I am super leery now. Yikes.

No NO...  no damage, the cards are working -perfectly- with 285.79 (right now)
 
This is a driver -install- failure, the term "brick" was about what the new drivers leave my cards as when installed.
 
My GTX 580's are FINE, and no damage has been done of anykind, I just cant use the new drivers is all bro

I seem to have gotten it working now......
http://forums.evga.com/fb.ashx?m=1439253
 
Further testing will be needed to really tell if its -really- working or not.
 
I will also have to backtrack my install error and report what I did wrong

diegorubeus

maniacvvv can you please tell me why sometimes i get those black lines in the textures in the game?
it's almost on the last post of page 7.
thanks

What -exact- in-game settings are you using

You pointed out that I needed to change my mouse settings? I tried turning off and on the raw mouse input but I'm getting the same quality in how I scroll with my mouse. Its really noticeable when I use the scope. It will skip frames, smooth but not choppy like the videos of tearing online.
 
What I mean by its smooth, its not stuttering perse, its noticeably skipping frames when I scroll left to right up and down with my mouse. Its just not as smooth as I'd like it to be. 
 
This is kinda what it looks like minus the motion blur.. I was hoping the 580 gtx could be even smoother than this 
 
youtube.com/watch?v=DJ1M22LG8yo

It's a single 580 gtx sc 1.5 gb. 
 
GRAPHICS QUALITY= high
TEXTURE QUALITY= high
SHADOW QUALITY= high
EFFECTS QUALITY= high
MESH QUALITY= high
TERRAIN QUALITY= high
TERRAIN DECORATION= high 
ANTIALISING DEFERRED= off 
ANTIALISING POST= high
MOTION BLUR= off
ANISOTROPIC FILTER= 16x 
AMBIENT OCCLUSION=  off
 
I also tried everything on low but I'm getting the same issue. 

I'm using a M505 logitech mouse and K800 logitech keyboard. Tried using a microsoft mouse usb plugged into a p2/2 socket but I was getting the same thing. 
 

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Hi maniac!
First off I would like to say thank you for all the great info so far and I am looking forward to the advanced tweeks section. 
 
I was wondering if you could give me your opinion to max my settings for BF3.  I know you are prob. really busy so if not I understand. 
Thanks again for all the great info you have given me!
J
 
My setup.
-I7 875k oc'ed to 3.8GHz
-Asus Maximus Formula III MB
-6.00GB DDR3 RAM
-2  EVGA GeForce GTX 580 Classified Ultra 3072MB in SLI
-Nvidia driver 295.51
-Antec Quattro 1200 powersupply

Thanks for the quick reply and feedback! 
Is there anything in the nvidia settings that I should change besides the 2 that you suggest? 

maniacvvv

diegorubeus

maniacvvv can you please tell me why sometimes i get those black lines in the textures in the game?
it's almost on the last post of page 7.
thanks

What -exact- in-game settings are you using

here are my in-game settings:
GRAPHICS QUALITY= ultra
TEXTURE QUALITY= ultra
SHADOW QUALITY= ultra
EFFECTS QUALITY= ultra
MESH QUALITY= ultra
TERRAIN QUALITY= ultra
TERRAIN DECORATION= ultra
ANTIALISING DEFERRED= 2x
ANTIALISING POST= high
MOTION BLUR= on
ANISOTROPIC FILTER= 16x
AMBIENT OCCLUSION= HBAO
i played metro (TDM) yesterday and i was getting a lot.
on big map i don't get it that much. after the patch i haven't seen it on big maps or open areas.
on metro i saw it a lot on ultra settings. i lowered it to low settings i i din't see it. went ahead and tried medium settings
and high and i think i saw it but i coudn't really notice it that much since the anti-aliasing was kinda low.
does it has to do with the anti-aliasin??
i saw on other forums people getting it also.
thanks

diegorubeus

i just checked a video on youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96vBI1fOugs

that's what i'm talking about.
this is what the guy says:
"just realized it's the antialiasing messing up that's causing the glitch. fxaa injector fixes it, msaa sucks."
is it related to that??
should i try that mod?
just let me know.
what about turning off MSAA?
i have it at 2x i think and i will try off too see if it keeps happening.

Yep, its your in-game settings
You are running your settings -above- what a 1.5gig 580 can do--> without creating issues, like you are reporting.
 
The fix is easy!
Please use -ALL- the settings exactly as shown below (for testing)

*Remember after changing the settings and saving them, you must close the game completely and restart it for the settings to take effect and the shaders to rebuild under the changes you have made. 
 
The game will look great, play much better and run at much higher framerates!
"The way its ment to be played"
 
**Now that its setup correctly, my guess is you will double your KDR
 

MrLeeeet

Hi Maniac,

I've been playing the game for some time now on a 120hz screen but experiencing some choppy/sluggish gameplay. The graphic settings are on Ultra except shadows on high and terrain quality.

When I turn off V-sync and I stand still and look at the scenery all looks good, but as soon as I turn while using the mouse it looks like it's skipping frames. As soon as I turn on V-sync it looks great but introduces more tearing, I compensate the input lag with the forcerender command from 3 frames to 2.

I do use RAW mouse input because I like the mouse responsiveness, even with it disabled it has the 'jittery' gameplay.

My system:
i7 2600K@4,4Ghz
SLI GTX 580SC 1,5GB edition
8GB@1600Mhz

I know v-RAM is the problem for many others but even when I lower the settings it still runs without smoothness. Do you know if this v-RAM problem is going to be fixed, I mean is there some leak or something? I find it pretty outrages that we can't play the game maxed with these systems..

Welcome to the EVGA Forums
 
What you have just described is a classic description of incorrect mouse settings for your hardware config
*Along with having some settings wrong for your videocard and monitor
 
You have a great videocard and a wonderful monitor.
Using the -correct- settings for your hardware will give you a "smooth as glass" experience.
 
First lets get your mouse working right.
The mouse and its settings is where many users make critical mistakes due to the way Windows and your mouse drivers work...
On most users configs, there are (3) different places to adjust ones mouse settings.
These all control aspects of mouse behavior such a polling rate, sensitivity and acceleration.
-->Many users to not understand these settings, how they are designed and how they work.
 
Mouse acceleration should -never- be used when gaming. (both in game and in the Windows control panel) 
This feature was designed to force a mouse to "jump" or "skip over" pixels when using the desktop.
Using it when gaming can cause "Jittery" or "frame tearing" effects, since the mouse is NOT recording 1,2,3,4,5,6,7 pixels when moving but is jumping 1,5,10,15..
These terrible effects are enhanced when using a high polling rate mouse, as the videocard is stressed when trying to render smoothly, at the same time as its being asked to "skip" frames..
The exact effect your seeing 
 
It would take pages to properly explain this...
Turn OFF the RAW mouse input setting in-game
Leave ALL mouse settings in-game at defaults (RAW input OFF) 
Leave all settings in the Windows mouse control panel at defaults
 
Make ANY changes to mouse behavior -ONLY- in your mouse's Driver control panel
Adjust sensitivity (speed) and polling rates ONLY (to your personal taste) and leave any "Acceleration" setting at default or OFF
 
Here is my mouse driver control panel setup

*My mouse is setup for the way I play..
I like a very quick response for snap shots, but also I need perfect aiming control and I like less than 3.5 inches on a 90 dergee sweep... and no matter what motion I input, my screen must never tear or jitter -period-  
 
Next up is your single GTX 580 1.5 gig videocard, running that great monitor
Your BF3 in-game graphics settings are totally incorrect for the hardware you are using.
 
You must NOT use Vsync (in-game or in the NVCP)
-->you need all the frames you can get when using a 120hz monitor
 
Next, make your in-game settings match exactly what is posted below (for testing)
 
 
With the correct setup of your mouse and the above changes to your in-game graphics settings, you will now have a wonderful -smooth- experience when playing BF3 on your 120hz monitor  
 

Hi Maniac,
 
I've followed your advice and the installation of the mouse driver really improved things. I do however still see a lot of tearing when turning.. I am beginning to think that Battlefield 3 has some problem with 120hz because on other games I don't have this effect.

braz989

Awesome thread, thanks maniac! Do you still recommend all of those settings posted on the first page? Any changes? My spec is in my signature, thanks!!

No changes at this time