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2024/09/18 13:38:06 (permalink)
Dear EVGA Community,
 
Thank you everyone for your patience while our team worked on the updates per Intel for the Z790 motherboards. 
These updates include the 0x129 Microcode from Intel for the Z790 series motherboards.
 
We only recommend this BIOS for the Z790 with Intel 13th or 14th Gen. Processors.
 
The BETA BIOS can be downloaded at the links below:
 
·         121-RL-E799-KR - EVGA Z790 DARK K|NGP|N - v1.20
·         121-RL-E798-KR - EVGA Z790 CLASSIFIED - v1.17
 
Please take note that we do not recommend updating your BIOS if you are not running an Intel 13th or 14th Gen. Processor.



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Re: BETA BIOS for Z790 0x129 Microcode Update 2024/09/18 14:02:39 (permalink)
Cheers Chris!


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Re: BETA BIOS for Z790 0x129 Microcode Update 2024/09/18 14:09:25 (permalink)
Upgraded my EVGA Z790 CLASSIFIED with v1.17 so far so good!
 

 
New settings per INTEL SPEC:

 
Hopefully Z690 gets same update.
post edited by ilukeberry - 2024/09/18 14:12:23

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Re: BETA BIOS for Z790 0x129 Microcode Update 2024/09/18 14:46:52 (permalink)
Please take note that even though you can change the settings listed below the Intel Default Settings, those settings will not go into effect until you turn off the Intel Default Settings option, then save and exit.



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Re: BETA BIOS for Z790 0x129 Microcode Update 2024/09/18 15:38:49 (permalink)
are there any changes on the memory side? or is this just 1.15 with updated MC?
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Re: BETA BIOS for Z790 0x129 Microcode Update 2024/09/18 16:21:04 (permalink)
Please take note that this BIOS is an update for the 0x129 Microcode and Intel Recommended Default settings for the 13th and 14th Gen. Intel Processors.
 
I am not aware of any other changes.



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Re: BETA BIOS for Z790 0x129 Microcode Update 2024/09/18 17:35:41 (permalink)
Bravo EVGA, bravo!

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Re: BETA BIOS for Z790 0x129 Microcode Update 2024/09/21 03:03:19 (permalink)
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Please take note that even though you can change the settings listed below the Intel Default Settings, those settings will not go into effect until you turn off the Intel Default Settings option, then save and exit.


Can you specify exactly which settings below are ignored when Intel default settings is enabled?
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Re: BETA BIOS for Z790 0x129 Microcode Update 2024/09/21 14:33:38 (permalink)
I think all of them.

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Re: BETA BIOS for Z790 0x129 Microcode Update 2024/09/21 14:57:25 (permalink)
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I think all of them.


I wouldn't think it's all of them. Stuff like c states, e cores being enabled, virtualization, etc don't seem like they contribute to 13th and 14th gen degrading.
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Re: BETA BIOS for Z790 0x129 Microcode Update 2024/09/21 15:47:21 (permalink)
nice to see the updated microcode

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Re: BETA BIOS for Z790 0x129 Microcode Update 2024/09/23 12:02:37 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Cool GTX 2024/09/25 13:53:45
Please see below:
 
According to the guidelines of Intel Default settings, the BIOS configurations are adjusted as follows:
  1. CEP(Current Excursion Protection) -> Enable
  2. eTVB(Enhanced Thermal Velocity Boost) -> Enable
  3. TVB(Thermal Velocity Boost) -> Enable
  4. TVB Votage Optimizations -> Enable
  5. ICCMAX Unlimited Bit -> Disable
  6. C-states -> Enable
  7. TjMAX Offset -> 0
  8. Unlimited ICCMAX - Disabled
  9. Long Duration Package Power Limit(PL1) - Auto
  10. Short Duration Package Power Limit(PL2) - Auto
Adjustment:
  • The 1-7 parameters follow Intel Default Settings; users can adjust the values manually.
  • The 8-10 parameters follow values from below CPU mapping table, users can adjust the values manually but cannot exceed the highest value limits of the mapping table linked below (When the Intel Default Settings is Enabled).
 
Reference:  Intel Recommendations:  https://community.intel.com/t5/Processors/June-2024-Guidance-regarding-Intel-Core-13th-and-14th-Gen-K-KF/td-p/1607807
 
Intel Core 13th and 14th Gen (K/KF/KS) desktop processors (Power Delivery Profiles):
Core i5, i7 = Performance
Core i9 = Extreme
         
 
 
evgasjtx59
EVGATech_ChrisB
Please take note that even though you can change the settings listed below the Intel Default Settings, those settings will not go into effect until you turn off the Intel Default Settings option, then save and exit.


Can you specify exactly which settings below are ignored when Intel default settings is enabled?




post edited by EVGATech_ChrisB - 2024/09/23 12:18:55



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Re: BETA BIOS for Z790 0x129 Microcode Update 2024/09/23 12:41:28 (permalink)
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Please see below:
 
According to the guidelines of Intel Default settings, the BIOS configurations are adjusted as follows:




Thanks!
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Re: BETA BIOS for Z790 0x129 Microcode Update 2024/09/25 13:27:42 (permalink)

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Re: BETA BIOS for Z790 0x129 Microcode Update 2024/09/26 05:16:21 (permalink)
Hi Chris,

Thank you so much for this. I just read that Intel is releasing yet another patch to cover other scenarios that can result in damaged CPUs.

From the Engadget.com website dated 9/26/24 at 08:00…
“ The latest microcode patch it has released, codenamed 0x12B, addresses the fourth scenario. Apparently, the processors could make elevated core voltage requests during light activity or while the computer is idle. Intel has distributed this patch to motherboard manufacturers, since it has to be loaded as a BIOS update. The company is already working with its partners, but it could still take several weeks for the manufacturers to roll out the fix to its products.”


Would you please look into getting another BIOS update? It would be very much appreciated.


Thank you.


PS - Sorry for the redundant post, iLukeberry
post edited by izubkoff - 2024/09/26 05:37:26
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Re: BETA BIOS for Z790 0x129 Microcode Update 2024/09/26 10:29:09 (permalink)
This!
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Re: BETA BIOS for Z790 0x129 Microcode Update 2024/09/29 19:01:20 (permalink)
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Hi Chris,

Thank you so much for this. I just read that Intel is releasing yet another patch to cover other scenarios that can result in damaged CPUs.

From the Engadget.com website dated 9/26/24 at 08:00…
“ The latest microcode patch it has released, codenamed 0x12B, addresses the fourth scenario. Apparently, the processors could make elevated core voltage requests during light activity or while the computer is idle. Intel has distributed this patch to motherboard manufacturers, since it has to be loaded as a BIOS update. The company is already working with its partners, but it could still take several weeks for the manufacturers to roll out the fix to its products.”


Would you please look into getting another BIOS update? It would be very much appreciated.


Thank you.


PS - Sorry for the redundant post, iLukeberry

Yes this 0x12B is the latest ver from intel, it will fix perfectly for 0x125 and 0x129 and would like EVGA will update it soon !
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Re: BETA BIOS for Z790 0x129 Microcode Update 2024/09/30 06:26:39 (permalink)
@EVGATech_ChrisB is your BIOS team already cooking new BIOS with 0x12B MCU?

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Re: BETA BIOS for Z790 0x129 Microcode Update 2024/10/01 10:09:19 (permalink)
We are looking into this and will update the community as soon as we can.
 
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@EVGATech_ChrisB is your BIOS team already cooking new BIOS with 0x12B MCU?







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Re: BETA BIOS for Z790 0x129 Microcode Update 2024/10/02 11:41:41 (permalink)
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Please see below:
 
According to the guidelines of Intel Default settings, the BIOS configurations are adjusted as follows:
  1. CEP(Current Excursion Protection) -> Enable
  2. eTVB(Enhanced Thermal Velocity Boost) -> Enable
  3. TVB(Thermal Velocity Boost) -> Enable
  4. TVB Votage Optimizations -> Enable
  5. ICCMAX Unlimited Bit -> Disable
  6. C-states -> Enable
  7. TjMAX Offset -> 0
  8. Unlimited ICCMAX - Disabled
  9. Long Duration Package Power Limit(PL1) - Auto
  10. Short Duration Package Power Limit(PL2) - Auto
Adjustment:
  • The 1-7 parameters follow Intel Default Settings; users can adjust the values manually.
  • The 8-10 parameters follow values from below CPU mapping table, users can adjust the values manually but cannot exceed the highest value limits of the mapping table linked below (When the Intel Default Settings is Enabled).
 
Reference:  Intel Recommendations:  https://community.intel.com/t5/Processors/June-2024-Guidance-regarding-Intel-Core-13th-and-14th-Gen-K-KF/td-p/1607807
 
Intel Core 13th and 14th Gen (K/KF/KS) desktop processors (Power Delivery Profiles):
Core i5, i7 = Performance
Core i9 = Extreme
         
 
 
evgasjtx59
EVGATech_ChrisB
Please take note that even though you can change the settings listed below the Intel Default Settings, those settings will not go into effect until you turn off the Intel Default Settings option, then save and exit.


Can you specify exactly which settings below are ignored when Intel default settings is enabled?






It looks like the "Extreme" power delivery profile isn't applying correctly. I'm on a i9 13900KS and it's only pulling 253w max with the Intel Defaults.
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Re: BETA BIOS for Z790 0x129 Microcode Update 2024/10/03 06:55:07 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Cool GTX 2024/10/03 11:56:21
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EVGATech_ChrisB
Please see below:
 
According to the guidelines of Intel Default settings, the BIOS configurations are adjusted as follows:
  1. CEP(Current Excursion Protection) -> Enable
  2. eTVB(Enhanced Thermal Velocity Boost) -> Enable
  3. TVB(Thermal Velocity Boost) -> Enable
  4. TVB Votage Optimizations -> Enable
  5. ICCMAX Unlimited Bit -> Disable
  6. C-states -> Enable
  7. TjMAX Offset -> 0
  8. Unlimited ICCMAX - Disabled
  9. Long Duration Package Power Limit(PL1) - Auto
  10. Short Duration Package Power Limit(PL2) - Auto
Adjustment:
  • The 1-7 parameters follow Intel Default Settings; users can adjust the values manually.
  • The 8-10 parameters follow values from below CPU mapping table, users can adjust the values manually but cannot exceed the highest value limits of the mapping table linked below (When the Intel Default Settings is Enabled).
 
Reference:  Intel Recommendations:  https://community.intel.com/t5/Processors/June-2024-Guidance-regarding-Intel-Core-13th-and-14th-Gen-K-KF/td-p/1607807
 
Intel Core 13th and 14th Gen (K/KF/KS) desktop processors (Power Delivery Profiles):
Core i5, i7 = Performance
Core i9 = Extreme
         
 
 
evgasjtx59
EVGATech_ChrisB
Please take note that even though you can change the settings listed below the Intel Default Settings, those settings will not go into effect until you turn off the Intel Default Settings option, then save and exit.


Can you specify exactly which settings below are ignored when Intel default settings is enabled?






It looks like the "Extreme" power delivery profile isn't applying correctly. I'm on a i9 13900KS and it's only pulling 253w max with the Intel Defaults.


According to Intel's ARK paper, 253W is the max default. -> https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/232167/intel-core-i9-13900ks-processor-36m-cache-up-to-6-00-ghz.html
 


 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: BETA BIOS for Z790 0x129 Microcode Update 2024/10/03 13:09:42 (permalink)
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EVGATech_ChrisB
Please see below:
 
According to the guidelines of Intel Default settings, the BIOS configurations are adjusted as follows:
  1. CEP(Current Excursion Protection) -> Enable
  2. eTVB(Enhanced Thermal Velocity Boost) -> Enable
  3. TVB(Thermal Velocity Boost) -> Enable
  4. TVB Votage Optimizations -> Enable
  5. ICCMAX Unlimited Bit -> Disable
  6. C-states -> Enable
  7. TjMAX Offset -> 0
  8. Unlimited ICCMAX - Disabled
  9. Long Duration Package Power Limit(PL1) - Auto
  10. Short Duration Package Power Limit(PL2) - Auto
Adjustment:
  • The 1-7 parameters follow Intel Default Settings; users can adjust the values manually.
  • The 8-10 parameters follow values from below CPU mapping table, users can adjust the values manually but cannot exceed the highest value limits of the mapping table linked below (When the Intel Default Settings is Enabled).
 
Reference:  Intel Recommendations:  https://community.intel.com/t5/Processors/June-2024-Guidance-regarding-Intel-Core-13th-and-14th-Gen-K-KF/td-p/1607807
 
Intel Core 13th and 14th Gen (K/KF/KS) desktop processors (Power Delivery Profiles):
Core i5, i7 = Performance
Core i9 = Extreme
         
 
 
evgasjtx59
EVGATech_ChrisB
Please take note that even though you can change the settings listed below the Intel Default Settings, those settings will not go into effect until you turn off the Intel Default Settings option, then save and exit.


Can you specify exactly which settings below are ignored when Intel default settings is enabled?






It looks like the "Extreme" power delivery profile isn't applying correctly. I'm on a i9 13900KS and it's only pulling 253w max with the Intel Defaults.


According to Intel's ARK paper, 253W is the max default. -> https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/232167/intel-core-i9-13900ks-processor-36m-cache-up-to-6-00-ghz.html
 


In the post from Intel that Chris linked, it says they recommend the 320w Extreme profile for the 13900KS and 14900KS.
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Re: BETA BIOS for Z790 0x129 Microcode Update 2024/10/03 13:15:57 (permalink)
I think because you are using the "Intel Default setting in your BIOS, you'll get Intel's default 253W. If you turn off Intel's default setting in BIOS, that's where you may see the 320W settings.


 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: BETA BIOS for Z790 0x129 Microcode Update 2024/10/03 13:34:18 (permalink)

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Re: BETA BIOS for Z790 0x129 Microcode Update 2024/10/03 13:56:17 (permalink)
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Straight from horse's mouth:
 
https://community.intel.com/t5/Processors/June-2024-Guidance-regarding-Intel-Core-13th-and-14th-Gen-K-KF/td-p/1607807?lightbox-message-images-1607807=56057i81282C3BCB9162A9
 



That's what I was saying in my post above. The Performance column for the 13900KS is what you'll get using the New Intel Default settings (253W). But Intel allows you to override those settings if you want. If you disable the Intel Default settings and use whatever EVGA calls their optimized default setting, you're likely to see 320W. I don't use an EVGA board so I can't test this myself, but you guys using EVGA's Z790 boards can easily verify things.
 
I know on my ASUS board running the latest MCU, the Intel default settings show 253W max. When I switch to ASUS Optimized Defaults, all those voltages and wattage limits are higher.


 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: BETA BIOS for Z790 0x129 Microcode Update 2024/10/03 15:04:45 (permalink)
Thank you for the feedback and we will look into this as well.
 
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Please see below:
 
According to the guidelines of Intel Default settings, the BIOS configurations are adjusted as follows:
  1. CEP(Current Excursion Protection) -> Enable
  2. eTVB(Enhanced Thermal Velocity Boost) -> Enable
  3. TVB(Thermal Velocity Boost) -> Enable
  4. TVB Votage Optimizations -> Enable
  5. ICCMAX Unlimited Bit -> Disable
  6. C-states -> Enable
  7. TjMAX Offset -> 0
  8. Unlimited ICCMAX - Disabled
  9. Long Duration Package Power Limit(PL1) - Auto
  10. Short Duration Package Power Limit(PL2) - Auto
Adjustment:
  • The 1-7 parameters follow Intel Default Settings; users can adjust the values manually.
  • The 8-10 parameters follow values from below CPU mapping table, users can adjust the values manually but cannot exceed the highest value limits of the mapping table linked below (When the Intel Default Settings is Enabled).
 
Reference:  Intel Recommendations:  https://community.intel.com/t5/Processors/June-2024-Guidance-regarding-Intel-Core-13th-and-14th-Gen-K-KF/td-p/1607807
 
Intel Core 13th and 14th Gen (K/KF/KS) desktop processors (Power Delivery Profiles):
Core i5, i7 = Performance
Core i9 = Extreme
         
 
 
evgasjtx59
EVGATech_ChrisB
Please take note that even though you can change the settings listed below the Intel Default Settings, those settings will not go into effect until you turn off the Intel Default Settings option, then save and exit.


Can you specify exactly which settings below are ignored when Intel default settings is enabled?






It looks like the "Extreme" power delivery profile isn't applying correctly. I'm on a i9 13900KS and it's only pulling 253w max with the Intel Defaults.







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Re: BETA BIOS for Z790 0x129 Microcode Update 2024/10/03 20:41:47 (permalink)
I need some help. Every time I try to run the bat I get a BSOD.
 
What can I do?
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Re: BETA BIOS for Z790 0x129 Microcode Update 2024/10/04 00:29:06 (permalink)
Same happened to me. Put BIOS image to USB and flash it from BIOS.

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Re: BETA BIOS for Z790 0x129 Microcode Update 2024/10/04 09:13:52 (permalink)
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ilukeberry
Straight from horse's mouth:
 
https://community.intel.com/t5/Processors/June-2024-Guidance-regarding-Intel-Core-13th-and-14th-Gen-K-KF/td-p/1607807?lightbox-message-images-1607807=56057i81282C3BCB9162A9
 



That's what I was saying in my post above. The Performance column for the 13900KS is what you'll get using the New Intel Default settings (253W). But Intel allows you to override those settings if you want. If you disable the Intel Default settings and use whatever EVGA calls their optimized default setting, you're likely to see 320W. I don't use an EVGA board so I can't test this myself, but you guys using EVGA's Z790 boards can easily verify things.
 
I know on my ASUS board running the latest MCU, the Intel default settings show 253W max. When I switch to ASUS Optimized Defaults, all those voltages and wattage limits are higher.


Turning off the default actually lets it go in excess of 320w (ran a quick Cinebench R23 run and it hit 350w), so neither are the Extreme settings.
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Re: BETA BIOS for Z790 0x129 Microcode Update 2024/10/04 10:48:07 (permalink)
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ilukeberry
Straight from horse's mouth:
 
https://community.intel.com/t5/Processors/June-2024-Guidance-regarding-Intel-Core-13th-and-14th-Gen-K-KF/td-p/1607807?lightbox-message-images-1607807=56057i81282C3BCB9162A9
 



That's what I was saying in my post above. The Performance column for the 13900KS is what you'll get using the New Intel Default settings (253W). But Intel allows you to override those settings if you want. If you disable the Intel Default settings and use whatever EVGA calls their optimized default setting, you're likely to see 320W. I don't use an EVGA board so I can't test this myself, but you guys using EVGA's Z790 boards can easily verify things.
 
I know on my ASUS board running the latest MCU, the Intel default settings show 253W max. When I switch to ASUS Optimized Defaults, all those voltages and wattage limits are higher.


Turning off the default actually lets it go in excess of 320w (ran a quick Cinebench R23 run and it hit 350w), so neither are the Extreme settings.


Makes sense actually. Adding in the "new" Intel default settings in the MC update restricted the power limits to Intel's actual default. When you turn off the Intel default, most or all  power settings go back to how things were prior to the whole Intel debacle. That's how it seems to me anyway based on my own testing.


 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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