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Re:EVGA X79 Dark 2013/05/15 10:10:42 (permalink)
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Yes, all will be 8x with 4 cards.

Maybe I was not clear enough in my questening:
3 gpu's in 3 of the PCIE x16 slots and one OCZ revodrive in the PCIEx4 slot.
I was wondering if its space for such setup?
Then run like this by using 2 og x16 slot and one x4 slot:
2 GPU in slots running at x16
1 GPU in slot running x8
1 Revodrive in slot running x4

 
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Re:EVGA X79 Dark 2013/05/15 10:20:56 (permalink)
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EVGA_JacobF

Yes, all will be 8x with 4 cards.

Maybe I was not clear enough in my questening:
3 gpu's in 3 of the PCIE x16 slots and one OCZ revodrive in the PCIEx4 slot.
I was wondering if its space for such setup?
Then run like this by using 2 og x16 slot and one x4 slot:
2 GPU in slots running at x16
1 GPU in slot running x8
1 Revodrive in slot running x4

 
With an X79 board from EVGA (EVGA X79 boards ONLY have 32 lanes) this is how they will run:
 
ALL graphics cards (with 3 of them) will run @ x8
Revodrive in a X4 @ x4
 
8+8+8+4 = 28 lanes/32 lanes
 
Gigabyte/MSI/Asus X79 you could run:
 
16x 8x 8x 4x = 36/40 lanes
 
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Re:EVGA X79 Dark 2013/05/15 11:18:15 (permalink)
They put the 4 pin Molex connector at the bottom that makes for a tight fit if your PSU is mounted in the bottom of your case.

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Re:EVGA X79 Dark 2013/05/15 12:47:38 (permalink)
All of that is nice to know...but pleeeeaaaaase!!!!
Tell us when it's buyable?!
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Re:EVGA X79 Dark 2013/05/15 13:00:42 (permalink)
At present the availability date is sometime in June unless EVGA decides to delay the product.
 
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All of that is nice to know...but pleeeeaaaaase!!!!
Tell us when it's buyable?!



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Re:EVGA X79 Dark 2013/05/15 13:13:36 (permalink)
Then send me yours bro ;)
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Re:EVGA X79 Dark 2013/05/15 13:14:49 (permalink)
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baggiebridges

I notice Jacob mention about gpu can run at x16 - x16 -x8

My question is then:
When I have 2 x Evga GTX680 Classiefied and one pcie ssd OCZ Revodrive 3 x2 can I then get a third GPU and manage to have a config like this:
2 x classified in x16
Third GPU in x8
OCZ  revodrive in pcie x4 slot(quess/hope is what the little pcie slot is ?)

I looked into many MB, and that I bought the ocz revodrive seems more and more not to be an smart move, if one wants 3 gpu or more. 

If I remember right everything gets stuck at x8 except for one of the card if you are running all 4 pcie slots as you only have 40 pcie lanes. I'm sure Jacob will confirm this or correct it. 


Yup that's right, but from what I understood, he is running the Revo in a x4 slot...but the outcome will be the same.  X79 boards from EVGA for some silly reason only have 32 lanes instead of 40.    8+8+8= 24.  Revo in a x 4 = total of 28 lanes.  Only 4 are left over so it won't help him any.  Now, if he had a FULL 40 lanes, he could run 16x8x8x4x. 
If he didn't use the Revo, he could run 16x8x8x on an EVGA board OR 16x16x8 on any other X79 board.

Jacob confirmed that EVGA boards have 32 lanes by stating that if you run 4 graphics cards, they will all run at 8x since 8x4 = 32

That is extremely stupid. Why would you waste 8 lanes? Another reason to buy asus. 
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Re:EVGA X79 Dark 2013/05/15 15:43:08 (permalink)
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Her eis the slot assignments:

1 card = X16
2 cards = x16/x16
3 cards = x16/x16/x8


http://forums.evga.com/fb.ashx?m=1839357
This means dark has 40 lanes.
 
That some "promote" other brands here based on wrongfull data is bad.
Hint: A final kick in the butt is a nice "tool".
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Re:EVGA X79 Dark 2013/05/15 16:26:11 (permalink)
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EVGA_JacobF

Her eis the slot assignments:

1 card = X16
2 cards = x16/x16
3 cards = x16/x16/x8


http://forums.evga.com/fb.ashx?m=1839357
This means dark has 40 lanes.

That some "promote" other brands here based on wrongfull data is bad.
Hint: A final kick in the butt is a nice "tool".

We are talking about 4 cards not 3 and Jacob just said they would all run in x8. It should be x16/x8/x8/x8 not x8/x8/x8/x8. So even if it has 40 lanes it doesn't utilize them all in 4 way sli 
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Re:EVGA X79 Dark 2013/05/15 17:40:29 (permalink)
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EVGA_JacobF

Her eis the slot assignments:

1 card = X16
2 cards = x16/x16
3 cards = x16/x16/x8


http://forums.evga.com/fb.ashx?m=1839357
This means dark has 40 lanes.

That some "promote" other brands here based on wrongfull data is bad.
Hint: A final kick in the butt is a nice "tool".

 
Reread my post and see if you see ANYWHERE that I said the Dark had x amount of lanes.  I said ALL EVGA X79 boards have 32 lanes. The Dark has not been released so until we see the spec sheets on it, I have no idea. If it does in fact have 40 full lanes, it will be a giant step in the right direction.  Why they limited their boards to 32 in previous iterations is absolutely mind-boggling.
 
Fact:  ALL X79 boards to date  have 32 lanes.  FACT:  All other X79 boards from other companies (ALL) have 40 lanes.  Where do you see me promoting other brands eh?
 
Tell me where the "wrongful" data is?  Also, I have no idea what your hint refers to.  You aren't going to get any special prizes or have mods as your BFF if you "defend" EVGA here.  These are facts, not opinions.I have owned 2 EVGA X79 boards and I own 3 "other name brand" X79 boards.
 
Also unless you are running large resolutions, the difference in X8 and X16 in PCI-E 3.0 is negligible.  Some people here (including me) have seen decent gains running Surround @1440p and greater with X16 PCIE-E 3.0.
post edited by Johnny_Utah - 2013/05/15 17:48:16
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Re:EVGA X79 Dark 2013/05/15 18:05:09 (permalink)
I get it...you don't like EVGA motherboards (your name looks familiar with complaints about the X58 or SR-2 a couple, three years ago).
 
So, why do you continue to post here?  Your motherboard company has it's own forums.
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Re:EVGA X79 Dark 2013/05/15 18:12:20 (permalink)
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We are talking about 4 cards not 3 and Jacob just said they would all run in x8. It should be x16/x8/x8/x8 not x8/x8/x8/x8. So even if it has 40 lanes it doesn't utilize them all in 4 way sli  

 
Look very closely at the PCIE slot layout and the printing on the PCB in OP's image. 
 
You COULD have 16X/8x/8x/8x in 4 way SLI, IF you were using waterblocks on 500 series cards.
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Re:EVGA X79 Dark 2013/05/15 18:16:31 (permalink)
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I get it...you don't like EVGA motherboards (your name looks familiar with complaints about the X58 or SR-2 a couple, three years ago).

So, why do you continue to post here?  Your motherboard company has it's own forums.

 
Nope, not me.  I had no issues with either one.  My problems started with X79.  I post here because I own 20 EVGA products and I want them to fix what is wrong.  Thanks for posting! Wow, it took me to get a 12th post out of you in 4 years? You are obviously a huge asset to this community.

If people don't speak up, things never get fixed.  Everything I spoke of was pure fact.  If you don't like it, simply put me on ignore. 
 
post edited by Johnny_Utah - 2013/05/15 18:23:22
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Re:EVGA X79 Dark 2013/05/15 18:18:12 (permalink)
OMG A FURRY

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We are talking about 4 cards not 3 and Jacob just said they would all run in x8. It should be x16/x8/x8/x8 not x8/x8/x8/x8. So even if it has 40 lanes it doesn't utilize them all in 4 way sli  


Look very closely at the PCIE slot layout and the printing on the PCB in OP's image. 

You COULD have 16X/8x/8x/8x in 4 way SLI, IF you were using waterblocks.

 
Indeed and 4 waterblocks on 4 cards would look quite nice!
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Re:EVGA X79 Dark 2013/05/15 18:22:56 (permalink)
20 bad products and you're still here? Glutton for punishment I guess.
 
Make it 13...
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Re:EVGA X79 Dark 2013/05/15 18:25:36 (permalink)
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20 bad products and you're still here? Glutton for punishment I guess.

Make it 13...

 
I don't think you understood what I said.  I own 20 EVGA products and THIS ONE (X79) failed in every way possible.  I like the company and I expect them to fix what is wrong.  I never said I owned 20 bad EVGA products.
 
Good day.
 
Either way, bring on the EVGA Dark.  Let's see if EVGA really did it right this time.  Nobody will know until about 1 week after launch.
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Re:EVGA X79 Dark 2013/05/15 18:48:42 (permalink)
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Indeed and 4 waterblocks on 4 cards would look quite nice!

 
The spacing would look a little weird for 16x/8x/8x/8x, but still a nice setup. And you would have to be using 500 series cards, due to the placement of the DVI connections on 600 series cards taking up two spaces.
 
Would have been so great if slots 2 and 3 were each moved up one space, so users could have 16x/8x/8x/8x on air or with 600 series cards.
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Re:EVGA X79 Dark 2013/05/16 06:23:46 (permalink)
Ok, that's fair enough. How about this instead. my current computer is functional enough that I can wait as long as I want to for an upgrade. In this case would it be recommended I just wait for the Dark to be released instead of taking a chance with an SLI?
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Re:EVGA X79 Dark 2013/05/16 08:36:43 (permalink)
That really depends on you and whether or not you are happy with your present setup.
 
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Ok, that's fair enough. How about this instead. my current computer is functional enough that I can wait as long as I want to for an upgrade. In this case would it be recommended I just wait for the Dark to be released instead of taking a chance with an SLI?



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Re:EVGA X79 Dark 2013/05/19 03:37:35 (permalink)
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KimbaWLion Having looked and read what little there is on the Dark, it looks good and there are a number of hardware improvements that should solve a lot of problems. Jacob says the Bios was done from the ground up and hopefully that will make a real difference. It is coming out later than first anticipated and want to believe that is a good thing for new builders as well as those who participate in whatever EVGA offers. Will everybody be happy, I THINK we know the answer to that. I come from the school that as long as something is done and its done as fair as possible that is a good thing.


We were promised over a year ago that, our problems would be solved...Then, it was admitted by Jacob that there were some hardware issues - okay.

The issue that incenses most of us, is that a solution has only been offered when there's a new product and it's going to cost us out of pocket.

What happened to the past year? What happened to those of us that have had multiple RMA's, paid for multiple RMA's only to end up with once again, a broken product? Where's our year back?

See most of you feel that the board "works" or runs "okay" but, the truth is that every one of these boards has hardware flaws, EVGA has admitted this to US however, no solution was put into place once this was done -- It was "Just RMA again".

"Just RMA again" didn't solve any issues, cost most of us serious time/money and now we're left with a motherboard that has never actually functioned as it was advertised.

Ultimately, IMHO -- This dark "step-up" situation is far too little, far too late...It also doesn't help me with the year I've lost...The investment...

It's sad because what once was, will never be, again.

HEAR HEAR!
I haven't been on the forum for awhile as I swapped out to a RIVE.
I had my X79 FTW running for 2 weeks before it died, RMA'd it at a cost of $80 postage
only for it to die completely again after 3 days of having it up and running.
Jacob gave me the option of RMA again, postage at their expense or swapping it for a
brand new X79 FTW which I could sell. I don't want either option (I still have it Boxed in my cupboard).
No way I would sell a faulty product to someone (even if new) and I couldn't afford the time
rebuilding my system only to have the third RMA'd board fail.
I have held out in hopes that I may get the option for them to replace it for the X79 DARK.
Step Up? and pay more just to do so? Why the hell should I have to pay more?
I am already $80 out of pocket for the first RMA, a clean swap and they pay the postage is more than fair.
If EVGA 'do' want me to pay extra to Step Up to the DARK, I'll do it only because I have moral fiber and would
never sell a POS X79 FTW (new) to anyone.
Eagerly awaiting news on what EVGA decide to do for ripped off customers like me (yes I have been ripped off).
If I end up having to pay extra, should I be blamed for never buying an EVGA product again?
 

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Re:EVGA X79 Dark 2013/05/19 09:30:39 (permalink)
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And you would have to be using 500 series cards, due to the placement of the DVI connections on 600 series cards taking up two spaces.
 
You are right, I don't understand why almost all (99%) the Nvidia video card manufacturers of this generation insist to add two DVI ports, only KFA2 (Galaxy) has made the 680 using only one slot, and therefore for me the only viable/usable Nvidia 680 video card is the  680-KFA2 (Galaxy)  




  
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Re:EVGA X79 Dark 2013/05/20 23:59:50 (permalink)
I have pondering waiting for the Dark, my ole X58 Classy 759 was / is awesome Board, never an issue, so was thinking of "waiting".......
 
....couldn't wait, RIVE, great Board so far, OC'ing the 3930K is a "breeze" !!
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Re:EVGA X79 Dark 2013/05/21 00:49:19 (permalink)
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OMG A FURRY
And you would have to be using 500 series cards, due to the placement of the DVI connections on 600 series cards taking up two spaces.
 
You are right, I don't understand why almost all (99%) the Nvidia video card manufacturers of this generation insist to add two DVI ports, only KFA2 (Galaxy) has made the 680 using only one slot, and therefore for me the only viable/usable Nvidia 680 video card is the  680-KFA2 (Galaxy)  

 
That's because DL DVI-D is the quintessential solution when it comes too outputting high bandwidth and is the standard solution in the computer world.  
 
The worthless connection for us is HDMI but since its taken a stronghold and overthrown VGA as the standard for MANY of the normal consumer when it comes to their digital connection made sure that we had to have it.
 
The future is DisplayPort but the issue is that most high end monitors these days either do or don't support it.  Leaving many of us to either use DL DVI-D or in the case of folks who get a card without that port having to buy an expensive DP to DL DVI-D adapter.
 
So yes their is a reason why Nvidia picked the outputs that they did for the 600 series and allowing them to do three monitor surround with a single card.
 
Once monitor manufactures adopt DP as the main connector say goodbye to DL DVI-D on high end GPUs.

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Re:EVGA X79 Dark 2013/05/21 06:50:50 (permalink)
tonschk ...I don't understand why almost all (99%) the Nvidia video card manufacturers of this generation insist to add two DVI ports,...

Try using a real monitor with a resolution higher than the childish "1080p" and a higher refresh rate than 60hz connected via HDMI and you'll know why  

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Re:EVGA X79 Dark 2013/05/21 17:00:57 (permalink)
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tonschk ...I don't understand why almost all (99%) the Nvidia video card manufacturers of this generation insist to add two DVI ports,...

Try using a real monitor with a resolution higher than the childish "1080p" and a higher refresh rate than 60hz connected via HDMI and you'll know why  

 
HDMI only supports up to 60hz...... just saying. you show me a monitor using HDMI with a higher refresh rate then 60hz.
 
 
that is why I'm stuck with 1920x1080@ 120hz and 120fps in game until a monitor comes out that can support 120hz and a higher res than this.
 
try seeing if your rig can even sustain 120fps on a 120hz monitor @ 1920x1080...
 

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Re:EVGA X79 Dark 2013/05/21 17:17:20 (permalink)
dustinggHDMI only supports up to 60hz...... just saying. you show me a monitor using HDMI with a higher refresh rate then 60hz.

That's why I said that, because it is not possible.
 
And coming back to topic, I'm desperately looking forward for the X79 Dark release date.

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Re:EVGA X79 Dark 2013/05/21 17:25:05 (permalink)
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tonschk ...I don't understand why almost all (99%) the Nvidia video card manufacturers of this generation insist to add two DVI ports,...

Try using a real monitor with a resolution higher than the childish "1080p" and a higher refresh rate than 60hz connected via HDMI and you'll know why  


HDMI only supports up to 60hz...... just saying. you show me a monitor using HDMI with a higher refresh rate then 60hz.


that is why I'm stuck with 1920x1080@ 120hz and 120fps in game until a monitor comes out that can support 120hz and a higher res than this.

try seeing if your rig can even sustain 120fps on a 120hz monitor @ 1920x1080...


That was Conin's point that you can't get higher resolution than 1920x1200 and 60Hz.  You need DP or DL DVI-D to do more than 60Hz and higher resolutions stable.  Sure HDMI 1.4 supports 4096×2160 but at 24Hz so forget it.
 
As for your other point go get a IPS and OC it.
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Re:EVGA X79 Dark 2013/05/23 07:16:34 (permalink)
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tonschk ...I don't understand why almost all (99%) the Nvidia video card manufacturers of this generation insist to add two DVI ports,...

Try using a real monitor with a resolution higher than the childish "1080p" and a higher refresh rate than 60hz connected via HDMI and you'll know why  


HDMI only supports up to 60hz...... just saying. you show me a monitor using HDMI with a higher refresh rate then 60hz.


that is why I'm stuck with 1920x1080@ 120hz and 120fps in game until a monitor comes out that can support 120hz and a higher res than this.

try seeing if your rig can even sustain 120fps on a 120hz monitor @ 1920x1080...


That was Conin's point that you can't get higher resolution than 1920x1200 and 60Hz.  You need DP or DL DVI-D to do more than 60Hz and higher resolutions stable.  Sure HDMI 1.4 supports 4096×2160 but at 24Hz so forget it.

As for your other point go get a IPS and OC it.

 
"As for your other point go get a IPS and OC it. "
 
IPS doesn't have the response time and cannot even be overclocked close to 120hz. You might be able to get 70-75hz OC depeneding on the monitor.

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Re:EVGA X79 Dark 2013/05/23 08:40:07 (permalink)
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tonschk ...I don't understand why almost all (99%) the Nvidia video card manufacturers of this generation insist to add two DVI ports,...

Try using a real monitor with a resolution higher than the childish "1080p" and a higher refresh rate than 60hz connected via HDMI and you'll know why  


HDMI only supports up to 60hz...... just saying. you show me a monitor using HDMI with a higher refresh rate then 60hz.


that is why I'm stuck with 1920x1080@ 120hz and 120fps in game until a monitor comes out that can support 120hz and a higher res than this.

try seeing if your rig can even sustain 120fps on a 120hz monitor @ 1920x1080...


That was Conin's point that you can't get higher resolution than 1920x1200 and 60Hz.  You need DP or DL DVI-D to do more than 60Hz and higher resolutions stable.  Sure HDMI 1.4 supports 4096×2160 but at 24Hz so forget it.

As for your other point go get a IPS and OC it.


"As for your other point go get a IPS and OC it. "

IPS doesn't have the response time and cannot even be overclocked close to 120hz. You might be able to get 70-75hz OC depeneding on the monitor.


 
 
There are several 120Hz IPS panes out there. 
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Re:EVGA X79 Dark 2013/05/23 09:37:12 (permalink)
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tonschk ...I don't understand why almost all (99%) the Nvidia video card manufacturers of this generation insist to add two DVI ports,...

Try using a real monitor with a resolution higher than the childish "1080p" and a higher refresh rate than 60hz connected via HDMI and you'll know why  


HDMI only supports up to 60hz...... just saying. you show me a monitor using HDMI with a higher refresh rate then 60hz.


that is why I'm stuck with 1920x1080@ 120hz and 120fps in game until a monitor comes out that can support 120hz and a higher res than this.

try seeing if your rig can even sustain 120fps on a 120hz monitor @ 1920x1080...


That was Conin's point that you can't get higher resolution than 1920x1200 and 60Hz.  You need DP or DL DVI-D to do more than 60Hz and higher resolutions stable.  Sure HDMI 1.4 supports 4096×2160 but at 24Hz so forget it.

As for your other point go get a IPS and OC it.


"As for your other point go get a IPS and OC it. "

IPS doesn't have the response time and cannot even be overclocked close to 120hz. You might be able to get 70-75hz OC depeneding on the monitor.




There are several 120Hz IPS panes out there. 

 
Really???? I've never seen a 120hz IPS monitor. Can you point me to one. I'd really like to check it out.
 
the only 120hz 27" monitors out that I know of are the Acer and Asus models.

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