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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's?
2021/02/25 14:24:23
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Stormdan
One question to all in the 3070 XC 3 Ultra queue: BovineGamer stated yesterday that the queue arrived at:
3070 XC3 Ultra 3755 10/29/2020 6:44 AM PT
My time stamp is
10/29/2020 6:29:40 AM PTNo
but I did not receive a notification until now. Bovine reassured to me, that the entry is correct. I am now wondering, whether there are other people on this queue, who also did not receive their notification but have a time stamp before 6:44 pm ....
This would help to identify, if we have a problem with our data availbale or if EVGA made a mistake...
Same here I am at 10/29/2020 6:38:53 AM PT (No) for 3755 so no idea how this 6:44 is genuine one
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's?
2021/02/25 15:40:25
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I double checked, January 22nd, the day 2 conflicting reports appeared on the 3060 Ti queue for Europe that sent it foward and then backwards with 2 people backing uo their dates.
It was the second episode of this kind with the eu site, the first one was a massive update on notification status for the 3080 FTW that got changed to Yes with no actual emails (it was corrected quickly) and now we have a repeat of the "weird date" episode again.
Maybe the result of migrations from the NA site to the EU site or nasty bug that is playing with the clock. I admit I am at a loss here.
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's?
2021/02/25 16:12:50
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Perhaps you could ask your contact, whether you can share his screesnhot with the timestamp (of course without his name). Than we could ask EVGA support to clarify the situation. Even if they do not provide details on the queue, they answer to possible bugs, as they did when the 3080 had this massive bug.
Anyway, and to be clear: That is not your fault! Dealing with the data is messy and you have to rely on the data you receive! Your effort is highly appreciated!
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's?
2021/03/01 14:31:27
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Here I was waiting for a overflow of 3060 reports just to see that the EVGA site once more decided to throw me another curve ball.
Apparently the DE side of the site had cards for sale, throwing more confusion into the process of tracking the lines.
Since these people did not queue and got their orders processed I will ignore those dates, so... the 3060 lines have technically moved but no reports at the time of this post that confirm the notification queue lines opening, despite Jacob informing they would open today.
I will keep my eyes peeled and update as new info comes in.
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's?
2021/03/01 15:28:28
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One guy, to whom a reference has been made here in the forum who bought a 3060 via EVGA EU, wrote on the german hardwareluxx that he entered the queue regularly, but got a notification email already after a couple of minutes. (He also showed a screenshot, where you could see the "my notify page" with the "yes"). So I assume, that EVGA EU used the notification system and had some limited stock. I also registered to the EU queue via DE site. However, my time stamp is 2 Minutes and 11 seconds and I have not received an email yet :(
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's?
2021/03/02 09:41:38
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any ideia on the last date that was notified regarding 3080 ftw3?
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's?
2021/03/02 09:44:28
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's?
2021/03/02 15:06:03
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Good Evening, here is the daily status for the EU queues.
A new challenger enters the ring!
The 3060 XC Gaming, the lightweight champion of the 2020/21 GPU Debacle will now demonstrate his amazing 30 second moves!
Name SKU Latest Emailed Date
3090 FTW3 Ultra 3987 9/25/2020 3:03:00 AM PT
3080 XC3 Ultra 3885 9/17/2020 8:35:00 AM PT
3080 FTW3 Ultra 3897 9/17/2020 7:43:29 AM PT
3070 XC3 Black 3751 10/29/2020 6:13:00 AM PT
3070 XC3 Ultra 3755 10/29/2020 6:44 AM PT
3070 FTW3 Ultra 3767 10/29/2020 6:23:43 AM PT
3060 Ti XC Gaming 3663 12/6/2020 12:55:48 AM PT
3060 TI FTW 3667 12/05/2020 11:32:26 PM PT
3060 XC Gaming 3657 2/25/2021 09:00:32 AM PT
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's?
2021/03/02 15:11:27
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12G-P5-3657-KR 2/25/2021 9:03:44 AM PT No
3:12 away. This might means 2-3 months i have to wait for a notify.
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's?
2021/03/02 15:14:20
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08G-P5-3767-KR 10/29/2020 6:35:24 AM PT No
10G-P5-3885-KR 9/30/2020 6:24:41 AM PT No
10G-P5-3897-KR 9/30/2020 6:24:15 AM PT No
10G-P5-3883-KR 9/17/2020 7:45:16 AM PT No
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's?
2021/03/02 16:46:03
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Comparing the EU and NA queues yields some interesting data. Name Sku Latest NA notification (DMY) Latest EU notification (DMY) Difference (Days)3090 FTW3 Ultra 3987 12/10/2020 18:51 25/09/2020 03:03 17.663080 XC3 Ultra 3885 18/09/2020 08:26 17/09/2020 08:35 0.99 3080 FTW3 Ultra 3897 19/09/2020 23:57 17/09/2020 07:43 2.68 3070 XC3 Black 3751 29/10/2020 06:16 29/10/2020 18:13 -0.50 3070 XC3 Ultra 3755 06/11/2020 14:20 29/10/2020 06:44 8.323070 FTW3 Ultra 3767 30/10/2020 08:14 29/10/2020 06:23 1.08 3060 Ti XC Gaming 3663 01/12/2020 07:22 06/12/2020 12:55 -5.233060 TI FTW 3667 01/12/2020 07:14 05/12/2020 23:32 -4.683060 XC Gaming 3657 25/02/2021 09:07 25/02/2021 09:00 0.01 Queues which are within +/- 2 or 3 days are to be expected. You'd always get some fluctuations like those kind of deviations. That aside, the EU queues are actually slight * ahead* of the NA queues for " 3060 Ti XC gaming" and " 3060 Ti FTW" ....... However, it's really the 3987 sku ( 3090 FTW3 Ultra) which is main deviant. It's lagging the NA queue by 17-18 days. That seems strange to me. Sure a couple of days would be expected, but that large an amount.....it would seem the cards allocated to the various markets is unbalanced. I'll leave it to the reader to speculate your own reason why.....
post edited by alandoy - 2021/03/02 16:50:33
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's?
2021/03/03 07:10:37
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Comparing the EU and NA queues yields some interesting data.
Name Sku Latest NA notification (DMY) Latest EU notification (DMY) Difference (Days)
3090 FTW3 Ultra 3987 12/10/2020 18:51 25/09/2020 03:03 17.66
3080 XC3 Ultra 3885 18/09/2020 08:26 17/09/2020 08:35 0.99
3080 FTW3 Ultra 3897 19/09/2020 23:57 17/09/2020 07:43 2.68
3070 XC3 Black 3751 29/10/2020 06:16 29/10/2020 18:13 -0.50
3070 XC3 Ultra 3755 06/11/2020 14:20 29/10/2020 06:44 8.32
3070 FTW3 Ultra 3767 30/10/2020 08:14 29/10/2020 06:23 1.08
3060 Ti XC Gaming 3663 01/12/2020 07:22 06/12/2020 12:55 -5.23
3060 TI FTW 3667 01/12/2020 07:14 05/12/2020 23:32 -4.68
3060 XC Gaming 3657 25/02/2021 09:07 25/02/2021 09:00 0.01
Queues which are within +/- 2 or 3 days are to be expected. You'd always get some fluctuations like those kind of deviations.
That aside, the EU queues are actually slight *ahead* of the NA queues for "3060 Ti XC gaming" and "3060 Ti FTW" .......
However, it's really the 3987 sku (3090 FTW3 Ultra) which is main deviant. It's lagging the NA queue by 17-18 days. That seems strange to me. Sure a couple of days would be expected, but that large an amount.....it would seem the cards allocated to the various markets is unbalanced. I'll leave it to the reader to speculate your own reason why.....
If I understood correctly the EU queue for the 3060Ti started later so "technically" yea we are ahead by 5 days but we also started 5 days later xD
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's?
2021/03/03 07:23:44
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If I understood correctly the EU queue for the 3060Ti started later so "technically" yea we are ahead by 5 days but we also started 5 days later xD
Very true Citrussek, which then sort of ( generally speaking now!) means that most of the EU queue's are fo r the most part inline with the NA counterparts. You can't read much into a day or two plus or minus. The exceptions being the 3070 XC3 ultra (lagging 8 days behind) and the 3090 FTW3 Ultra lagging ~18 days behind. Those are pretty significant deviations - especially at the start of the queues where probably the saturation was higher (i.e. more people per day signing up per day than some months later) At least for the 3090 FTW3 i know personally that the queue started very (very) close to the NA one as i'm on it myself pretty early in it too, so it's not that it started later.
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's?
2021/03/03 07:45:32
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Very true Citrussek, which then sort of (generally speaking now!) means that most of the EU queue's are for the most part inline with the NA counterparts. You can't read much into a day or two plus or minus. The exceptions being the 3070 XC3 ultra (lagging 8 days behind) and the 3090 FTW3 Ultra lagging ~18 days behind.
Those are pretty significant deviations - especially at the start of the queues where probably the saturation was higher (i.e. more people per day signing up per day than some months later)
At least for the 3090 FTW3 i know personally that the queue started very (very) close to the NA one as i'm on it myself pretty early in it too, so it's not that it started later.
That gives me hope in those 45 seconds that are left for me xd But to be honest I've been without a GPU for 6 months so I can wait a bit more :D
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's?
2021/03/03 07:49:04
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@alandoy: I am sorry, but your interpretation is very misleading from my point of view. 2 or 3 days difference are not something equal. If you take a look at the queue documents, you can see that for example for the 3080 FTW3 Ultra there are 5 (!) reported deliveries in EU. Of course, for EU we can assume that less people report for the document than in US, but it is evident that the queue is marching much slower. The US queue documents state that several hundreds have been fulfilled. That is not "more or less equal".
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's?
2021/03/03 10:19:52
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Data on hand and I think that is known to everybody at this point:
Europe Queue
emails sent: 18
cards purchased: 14
cards shipped: 13
NA Queue
emails sent: 1049
cards purchased: 984
cards shipped: 512
These data speak for themselves.
Mind you that even if just 10% of the EU community would have updated their post on the megathread the count would still stops at 180 emails sent, and it is still way lower than NA emails sent, let alone if we apply this thinking to the NA queue.
Considering also that Europe count twice as much people as America and Canada together it is clear that EVGA is prioritizing NA on selling their gpus.
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's?
2021/03/03 11:05:45
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@alandoy: I am sorry, but your interpretation is very misleading from my point of view. 2 or 3 days difference are not something equal. If you take a look at the queue documents, you can see that for example for the 3080 FTW3 Ultra there are 5 (!) reported deliveries in EU. Of course, for EU we can assume that less people report for the document than in US, but it is evident that the queue is marching much slower. The US queue documents state that several hundreds have been fulfilled. That is not "more or less equal".
Not quite, we just had a full month of silence on self-reports, a normal person would assume no cards were delivered because... "someone would have said something right?", it turns out it's not the case. Take a look at my previous update, 2 lines advanced 30 minutes, that's pretty much in line with the "1 second per day" speed we saw on the NA queues, "our" queue is copying the exact same pattern, the difference is we are experiencing it much later. Unfortunatley we need to accept the harsh truth that europeans are not reporting back in large numbers as the north americans. That is why this community needs to stick together and share as much information as possible and most of all, BE PATIENT. alandoy
However, it's really the 3987 sku (3090 FTW3 Ultra) which is main deviant. It's lagging the NA queue by 17-18 days. That seems strange to me.
Well it does seem like a conspiracy of sorts, I would say it's probably fault of that Wilson Fisk that comes up from time to time, but that would mean the end of me. Since I do not want to die from some shaddy Deadpool I would rather say EVGA is figuring out why exactly is a premium card going bang with games like Halo.
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's?
2021/03/03 12:45:20
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's?
2021/03/03 13:06:07
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@alandoy: I am sorry, but your interpretation is very misleading from my point of view. 2 or 3 days difference are not something equal. If you take a look at the queue documents, you can see that for example for the 3080 FTW3 Ultra there are 5 (!) reported deliveries in EU. Of course, for EU we can assume that less people report for the document than in US, but it is evident that the queue is marching much slower. The US queue documents state that several hundreds have been fulfilled. That is not "more or less equal".
It's not meant as misleading, only that there could be many explanations why 2-3 days is "ok" and an acceptable difference (plus *or* minus). For example, and I'm very much speculating here to show one possible reason, shipping (by sea) takes a number of weeks for a ship to travel from Asia to Europe. It maybe the case that there are ships enroute from Taiwan currently containing *1000's* of cards, and once they arrive we may find a huge increase in the EU queues that happen very quickly. Potentially even putting the EU ahead of the NA ones. I've no data that there are - only trying to explain why you shouldn't read too much into it. That is why minor deviations are (probably) ok, and skus which are within a few days could well be down to normal distribution variables. However, the 3090 FTW3 Ultra sku has consistently fallen more and more behind the NA queue, since October, with only the first "confirmed sighting" happening in January in EU. While I've not proof, this seems to be something else than what I would class as "normal". What can we do about it? Not much - but I wanted at least people to be aware of the issue. What and how people deal with that is up to them, but I would echo Bovine's comment that reverting back to the forums when you get cards really does help improve the information flow.
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's?
2021/03/03 13:31:41
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Good Evening, here is the daily status for the EU queues. Updates are in bold.
The 3060 craze is on. So why not move only the 3070 line just to make people mad? The 2020/21 GPU Deblace (
copyright 2020 enewt all rights reserved) continues to surprise us. But the March continues.
Name SKU Latest Emailed Date
3090 FTW3 Ultra 3987 9/25/2020 3:03:00 AM PT
3080 XC3 Ultra 3885 9/17/2020 8:35:00 AM PT
3080 FTW3 Ultra 3897 9/17/2020 7:43:29 AM PT
3070 XC3 Black 3751 10/29/2020 6:15:19 AM PT
3070 XC3 Ultra 3755 10/29/2020 6:44 AM PT
3070 FTW3 Ultra 3767 10/29/2020 6:23:43 AM PT
3060 Ti XC Gaming 3663 12/6/2020 12:55:48 AM PT
3060 TI FTW 3667 12/05/2020 11:32:26 PM PT
3060 XC Gaming 3657 2/25/2021 09:00:32 AM PT
As usual, I will be back tomorrow if more timestamps show up. Best of luck for the watchers.
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's?
2021/03/03 21:59:52
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Australia is having similarly bad luck by the looks of it. Somehow 3090's and AMD CPU's seem to be much more readily available here for some reason tho.
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's?
2021/03/04 11:59:24
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My time stamp is 6.44am and 10 seconds for the 3755. I wondered why i wasnt getting a notify when bovinegamer posts 6.44am, i was expecting the notify this week :( im not sure how long a wait that is in real time, but since north america is 8 days along, while europe is only half an hour along, it doesnt look good
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's?
2021/03/04 13:08:57
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My time stamp is 6.44am and 10 seconds for the 3755. I wondered why i wasnt getting a notify when bovinegamer posts 6.44am, i was expecting the notify this week :( im not sure how long a wait that is in real time, but since north america is 8 days along, while europe is only half an hour along, it doesnt look good
Being stuck on a 1 second bubble is unfortunatley not an uncommon ocurrence. You are almost there, try to stay strong.
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's?
2021/03/04 14:24:29
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I do not want to disappoint you, but I do not think that the last time stamp with 6:44 is correct. I already told Bovione that I have a time stamp at 6:29 and I have not received an email yet :( I wonder whether someone mixed up different models...
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's?
2021/03/05 08:50:36
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I just reveived an email from a Finnish etailer with the following table including estimated waiting times calculated from today (5.3.2021).
Ordered 17.9. 18.9. 19.-30.9. October November December January
3080 FTW Ultra 2-4 months 2-4 months 4-6 months 5-6 months 5-6 months 5-6 months 4-8 months
3080 XC3 Gaming 2-4 months 2-4 months 4-6 months 5-6 months 5-6 months 5-6 months 4-8 months
3080 XC3 Black 2-4 months 2-4 months 4-6 months 5-6 months 5-6 months 5-6 months 4-8 months
3080 XC3 Ultra 3-4 months 4-6 months 6-8 months
I don't know how they're coming up with those numbers since all of them are 2 months longer than they estimated a month ago.
Although this is just one small country, I think it might reflect what's happening in the whole of Europe. It sucks to be a PC enthusiast this hardware generation :(
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's?
2021/03/05 09:15:18
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Discrimination we dont even get hydro on the eu evga page they figure America is bigger market and give us the boot that is fine America first then but i will boycot you from now on.
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's?
2021/03/05 10:58:13
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Does anyone know the reason why Britain and the rest of europe is only getting less than 5% of the stock comared to america?
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's?
2021/03/05 11:17:21
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They hate us. 
12G-P5-3657-KR 2/25/2021 9:02:56 AM PT No 08G-P5-3663-KR 1/19/2021 10:30:58 AM PT No
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's?
2021/03/05 13:52:14
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Not to mention EU page never got hydro which if been waiting for and now there even bigger shortage there not a chance im even gonna get one in the next 1 or 2 years may as well skip to next gen or try my luck with AMD
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's?
2021/03/05 16:09:45
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The statistics showing 1,72% of evga's whole GPUs production sent to Europe. That much evga care about european customers. There is no reason about this thread, not even about evga's choice to make new nvidia's series available in europe. It's available only in theory, not in reality.
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