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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's? 2021/02/15 16:16:00 (permalink)
After some silence I was able to pick some movement on the 3070 XC3 Ultra queue, still trying to determine the timestamp so I can update the table.
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's? 2021/02/15 22:57:28 (permalink)
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Im Just really into ditching Nvidia for the first time.

 
unfortunately I feel the same, but stuck for now
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's? 2021/02/16 00:51:26 (permalink)
What I do not like most - is seeing miners posting their farms with tens of EVGA RTX 3080s in them. Its like half of the EU queue right there in those pictures!
EVGA like any other company is selling directly to miners, as long as mining craze continues- gotta get that cash, right? Later on the gamers will just buy mined cards from miners anyway, for almost the same price...
All hail the bitcoin....
 
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's? 2021/02/16 08:26:55 (permalink)
 reading the reports about broken 3000 series cards I would never buy a second hand card. Trying to rma a used miners card gives me nightmares.
 
 Jacob just said on stream the low numbers the last few weeks are due to chinese new year and numbers should go back up and "slowly" increasing. 
 
whatever that means numberwise. 
post edited by Feuer_Psycho - 2021/02/16 08:36:06
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's? 2021/02/16 15:05:00 (permalink)
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 reading the reports about broken 3000 series cards I would never buy a second hand card. Trying to rma a used miners card gives me nightmares.
 
 Jacob just said on stream the low numbers the last few weeks are due to chinese new year and numbers should go back up and "slowly" increasing. 
 
whatever that means numberwise. 




It will get worse before it gets better.
 
It is nothing that had not been anticipating already, but it's always better for the company to come clean and put out the warning.
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's? 2021/02/23 12:49:15 (permalink)
So someone signed up for the 3060 Ti queue a week ago and got his 3060 Ti just now: https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/lqpcwg/evga_ftw_they_sent_me_a_unique_link_to_purchase_a/
I'm guessing this is the US queue? Would be nice if EVGA would start taking care of their EU customers, in the queue since the 6:th of December.
 Posted in wrong thread.
post edited by Zheny - 2021/02/23 12:52:53
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's? 2021/02/23 14:10:51 (permalink)
Good Evening, here is the daily status for the EU queues. (Yes, a month later, I know)
So, the Year of the Ox has begun (only found out last weekend, I feel dumb) which probably explains why we have 2 bolded queues!
 
Name                         SKU             Latest Emailed Date
3090 FTW3 Ultra         3987            9/25/2020 3:03:00 AM PT
3080 XC3 Ultra           3885            9/17/2020 8:35:00 AM PT
3080 FTW3 Ultra         3897            9/17/2020 7:43:29 AM PT
3070 XC3 Black          3751            10/29/2020 6:13:00 AM PT
3070 XC3 Ultra           3755            10/29/2020 6:44 AM PT
3070 FTW3 Ultra         3767            10/29/2020 6:23:43 AM PT
3060 Ti XC Gaming     3663            12/6/2020 12:55:48 AM PT
3060 TI FTW              3667            12/05/2020 11:32:26 PM PT
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's? 2021/02/23 14:34:37 (permalink)
 3897 movement. 
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's? 2021/02/23 14:37:11 (permalink)
It's depressing the lack of traction here, especially when you see more (relative) movement on the NA queues. I know I've said this before, but the EU queues have been consistently underperforming for months compared to the NA ones. No explanation I can think why other than the allocations  EVGA do internally are .... lets say "unbalanced" :-) 
 
That said, thanks again for doing the leg work here. If only to highlight a generalized wait time for people - that's useful in itself. If it's not too much trouble, would it be possible to include another column? I think we talked about doing something similar over in the NA thread where the extra column holds the date of "last detected movement". 
 
Even if you don't have historical data, we could do this going forward? Something like......

Name                         SKU             Queue Position Date                              Last Change detected
3090 FTW3 Ultra         3987            9/25/2020 3:03:00 AM PT
3080 XC3 Ultra           3885            9/17/2020 8:35:00 AM PT
3080 FTW3 Ultra         3897            9/17/2020 7:43:29 AM PT                 23/02/2021
3070 XC3 Black          3751            10/29/2020 6:13:00 AM PT
3070 XC3 Ultra           3755            10/29/2020 6:44 AM PT                     23/02/2021
3070 FTW3 Ultra         3767            10/29/2020 6:23:43 AM PT
3060 Ti XC Gaming     3663            12/6/2020 12:55:48 AM PT
3060 TI FTW              3667            12/05/2020 11:32:26 PM PT
 
 
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's? 2021/02/23 15:10:13 (permalink)
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It's depressing the lack of traction here, especially when you see more (relative) movement on the NA queues. I know I've said this before, but the EU queues have been consistently underperforming for months compared to the NA ones. No explanation I can think why other than the allocations  EVGA do internally are .... lets say "unbalanced" :-) 
 
That said, thanks again for doing the leg work here. If only to highlight a generalized wait time for people - that's useful in itself. If it's not too much trouble, would it be possible to include another column? I think we talked about doing something similar over in the NA thread where the extra column holds the date of "last detected movement". 
 
Even if you don't have historical data, we could do this going forward? Something like......

Name                         SKU             Queue Position Date                              Last Change detected
3090 FTW3 Ultra         3987            9/25/2020 3:03:00 AM PT
3080 XC3 Ultra           3885            9/17/2020 8:35:00 AM PT
3080 FTW3 Ultra         3897            9/17/2020 7:43:29 AM PT                 23/02/2021
3070 XC3 Black          3751            10/29/2020 6:13:00 AM PT
3070 XC3 Ultra           3755            10/29/2020 6:44 AM PT                     23/02/2021
3070 FTW3 Ultra         3767            10/29/2020 6:23:43 AM PT
3060 Ti XC Gaming     3663            12/6/2020 12:55:48 AM PT
3060 TI FTW              3667            12/05/2020 11:32:26 PM PT
 
 




That would further confuse people. My summaries are but a small snapshot, but some people fail to realise that and take my summaries at face value.
Risking repeating myself, please keep in mind that no self-reports are not an indication that emails are not being sent. To give you an example, a 3070 FTW3 Ultra was deliverd in the Czech Republic last week, I know this because I caught a reference on twitter and managed to crosscheck his location.
People are being served by the eu queue but many are not reporting back. Some good folks take their time to report back or answer my queries, but not everyone understands why I am asking for a sign-up date or let alone why they should bother coming back when they have waited for so long already. It's part of the job and I knew there would be dry days before I took this mission.
 
In short, I would rather keep my updates simple, the spreadsheet already contains some formulas for those looking for some more advanced maths.
post edited by BovineGamer - 2021/02/23 15:14:17
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's? 2021/02/23 17:48:14 (permalink)
Again, I think your doing a sterling job there Bovine, but respectfully I'll have to disagree that an extra column would "confuse people". As you say, we have limited information at our disposal, but one of the few things that we do have is the when each specific queue got updated last. Knowing that helps define the landscape. Seems like we'd be throwing away one of the few data points that we do have.....and data that is already in the thread. Although if a person wanted to see it they'd have to scroll back through pages and pages of the thread to find out when you last posted that specific line in bold. 
 
Just making it hard for people.....
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's? 2021/02/24 10:17:04 (permalink)
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Again, I think your doing a sterling job there Bovine, but respectfully I'll have to disagree that an extra column would "confuse people". As you say, we have limited information at our disposal, but one of the few things that we do have is the when each specific queue got updated last. Knowing that helps define the landscape. Seems like we'd be throwing away one of the few data points that we do have.....and data that is already in the thread. Although if a person wanted to see it they'd have to scroll back through pages and pages of the thread to find out when you last posted that specific line in bold. 
 
Just making it hard for people.....




Yes, I kow searching back is tedious, hence why I made a google doc with the latest updates,  anyone can access that document here, folks have been sharing it around already on the forum, you and anyone interested might want to bookmark it for future reference, it gets updated before my posts go up. So it's in sync.
I am also always available to answer when the last email was sent, I do keep those noted down and I will always give that information to individual queries when I am available.
 
My main focus is the queue position. How much it has jumped or when it jumped really has no pratical effect at this stage, we already know it's bottlenecked, we know it's crawling (1 month of silence was roughly 30 minutes in queue advancement), we know retailers are getting first priority. Once it starts to actually ramp up we will know it and my summaries will hopefully become useless.

 
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's? 2021/02/24 10:26:21 (permalink)
alandoy
Again, I think your doing a sterling job there Bovine, but respectfully I'll have to disagree that an extra column would "confuse people". As you say, we have limited information at our disposal, but one of the few things that we do have is the when each specific queue got updated last. Knowing that helps define the landscape. Seems like we'd be throwing away one of the few data points that we do have.....and data that is already in the thread. Although if a person wanted to see it they'd have to scroll back through pages and pages of the thread to find out when you last posted that specific line in bold. 
 
Just making it hard for people.....


I know people called me toxic in the past ...but here we are again:
alandoy not accepting other people's opinions! or even read the whole message. 
 
BovineGamer
 
My summaries are but a small snapshot, but some people fail to realise that and take my summaries at face value.


Bovine is doing an amazing job(Even if I think chasing data on twitter is a bit crazy). He is our unsung hero and  can present the information from data he gathered how he wants. But everyone is free the refine the given data  for themselves however and wherever they want.
 
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's? 2021/02/24 11:33:22 (permalink)
I really don't understand you Feuer. Are you trying to troll people or something? Someone suggests an improvement on how the data is outlined and you go all negative - and yes, I did read the message. 
 
I've never once said that Bovine (and sorry for talking about you Bovine in 3rd person)  is doing a bad job. In fact, quiet the opposite. 
     Again, I think your doing a sterling job there Bovine, but respectfully I'll have to disagree that an extra column would "confuse people"
Bovine if you had an associate code, I'd be using that to make sure that your efforts are rewarded. I don't know how one gets to be an associate, but I'd suggest that you do so that I (and others) can reward you for your time/effort. 
 
That said, I do think that the last update field is useful as it helps define the dy/dx of the slope. And you know what - I stand over that opinion. The problem with the limited data we have, is that because it's limited knowing when there was last detected movement means a lot. Knowing if something moved 10 minutes is helpful, but if you are waiting for a sku that hasn't detected movement in 3 months - knowing that is also helpful, and yeah, while it's available in the thread - searching for it is tedious. With both pieces of information, you can help build a picture in your mind as to what's happening with that's specific queue. I'm not the only one who thinks that as a few people also came up with the SAME idea on the NA thread. 
 
We all may not agree about how the data is presented, but should that mean that we not at least discuss in a civilized way on how we might improve things? 
I'd hope that we can. 
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's? 2021/02/24 11:47:48 (permalink)
Dear God, Just Move u Darng Queue ! 🥲🥲🥲
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's? 2021/02/24 11:48:54 (permalink)
kanth1991
Dear God, Just Move u Darng Queue ! 🥲🥲🥲



I've tried shouting at it......
..
..
Doesn't work :-( 
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's? 2021/02/24 13:15:09 (permalink)
alandoy
I really don't understand you Feuer. Are you trying to troll people or something? Someone suggests an improvement on how the data is outlined and you go all negative - and yes, I did read the message. 
 
I've never once said that Bovine (and sorry for talking about you Bovine in 3rd person)  is doing a bad job. In fact, quiet the opposite. 
     Again, I think your doing a sterling job there Bovine, but respectfully I'll have to disagree that an extra column would "confuse people"
Bovine if you had an associate code, I'd be using that to make sure that your efforts are rewarded. I don't know how one gets to be an associate, but I'd suggest that you do so that I (and others) can reward you for your time/effort. 
 
That said, I do think that the last update field is useful as it helps define the dy/dx of the slope. And you know what - I stand over that opinion. The problem with the limited data we have, is that because it's limited knowing when there was last detected movement means a lot. Knowing if something moved 10 minutes is helpful, but if you are waiting for a sku that hasn't detected movement in 3 months - knowing that is also helpful, and yeah, while it's available in the thread - searching for it is tedious. With both pieces of information, you can help build a picture in your mind as to what's happening with that's specific queue. I'm not the only one who thinks that as a few people also came up with the SAME idea on the NA thread. 
 
We all may not agree about how the data is presented, but should that mean that we not at least discuss in a civilized way on how we might improve things? 
I'd hope that we can. 


Oh my god. So many people tried to discuss your wild conspiracy theories in a civilized manner the last I don't know how many pages. Facts where given, observations stated and theories exchanged. Even I tried to be objective in the beginning.
What personally triggers me is the level of disrespect you show about other people's opinion. Let's just look at this page:
You bring up a really good idea.Bovine answers. And your next message is "yes ok BUT ....(my opinion/idea is still better)". 
 
But if we bring up trolling. If someone is trolling it's you talking about "balance", "fair treatment", "equal population" and so on...to get the crowd rallied up. Maybe to enforce an official statement from EVGA in the thread? 
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's? 2021/02/24 13:23:57 (permalink)
Please entertain us some more with your witty quips.....they are certainly helping relieve the boredom here as we wait for the cards to arrive. 
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's? 2021/02/24 13:42:01 (permalink)
Ah come on the only entertained one is you. Sitting in your dedicated pc spot sipping a beverage and giggling like little kids used to about that mischievous comment and imagining how I'm sitting around enraged and/or in tears. 
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's? 2021/02/24 14:00:51 (permalink)
Your disappointing me now. Surely you have another epic "alandoy 4000 series card with extra whine" in you? No?
Or perhaps you might enlighten the forum with some improvement of your own to help. 
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's? 2021/02/24 14:25:11 (permalink)
See that's why I know I really got you there. You still remember my little idea.
You know what. The best thing is this forum and this thread don't need "improvements" or "enlightenment" not from me and not from you. It's perfect as it is. Bovine doing an amazing job gathering data presenting them. EVGA give all the information they want/can.
 
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's? 2021/02/24 16:43:28 (permalink)
Before anyone asks, yes, I will track the 3060 (non Ti) as well.
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's? 2021/02/25 02:28:08 (permalink)
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You know what. The best thing is this forum and this thread don't need "improvements" or "enlightenment" not from me and not from you. It's perfect as it is. Bovine doing an amazing job gathering data presenting them. EVGA give all the information they want/can.

 
Sadly you are very much mistaken there. Every situation can and has been improved over time by people reflecting and adopting new ideas. Some will work, some will not. But the whole reason this thread exists is that someone saw something lacking and decided to try and fix it for the betterment of the whole.  To think that no improvements can be made is the close minded hubirs thinking that I would expect of you. Feel free to continue in that thinking. It will, I'm sure, get you far in life. 
 
However if I'm not over stepping my mark, do please share more with the group of your witty negative comments against anyone who remotely tries to have a different opinion from your own. Every forum thread needs a Ronald McDonald foil to inject some sarcastic humor. More so now in these bleak uncertain times! It helps pass away the days as we wait for the cards to arrive. 
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's? 2021/02/25 02:49:19 (permalink)
guys possible good news for you in the queue, if i don't brick my card with the resizable bar update and my power supply doesn't catch fire you could gain some position for the 3070 and 3060ti
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's? 2021/02/25 09:18:13 (permalink)
Hi there!
This is my 3060 (Metal Backplate) entry:
12G-P5-3657-KR 2/25/2021 9:06:36 AM PT No
 
EDIT: sorry, maybe the 3060Ti thread was a better choice.
post edited by Ronz90 - 2021/02/25 09:38:37
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's? 2021/02/25 09:35:00 (permalink)
No XC Black Gaming version of the 3060 for Europe?
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's? 2021/02/25 11:19:52 (permalink)
You guys are pullings each others hair , the problem is that there is again movement sadly
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's? 2021/02/25 12:43:10 (permalink)
praeceps91
No XC Black Gaming version of the 3060 for Europe?




Yep, seems we only got the 12G-P5-3657-KR SKU
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's? 2021/02/25 12:45:46 (permalink)
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Hi there!
This is my 3060 (Metal Backplate) entry:
12G-P5-3657-KR 2/25/2021 9:06:36 AM PT No
 
EDIT: sorry, maybe the 3060Ti thread was a better choice.




Everyone is welcome. 
 
Good luck on your watch
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's? 2021/02/25 14:04:09 (permalink)
One question to all in the 3070 XC 3 Ultra queue: BovineGamer stated yesterday that the queue arrived at:
3070 XC3 Ultra           3755            10/29/2020 6:44 AM PT
 
My time stamp is
08G-P5-3755-KR 10/29/2020 6:29:40 AM PTNo but I did not receive a notification until now. Bovine reassured to me, that the entry is correct. I am now wondering, whether there are other people on this queue, who also did not receive their notification but have a time stamp before 6:44 pm ....
This would help to identify, if we have a problem with our data availbale or if EVGA made a mistake...
   
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