alandoy
 
It's not entirely true that the European queues started later than the US. Yes, it took some time for the buttons to appear on the EU site, but I joined the US queue and my account had the correct entry. Maybe they migrated it behind the scenes? Dunno - but if it happened for me, it happened for others I'm sure. 
I wouldn't go as far as to use the word "conspiracy" as that conjures up a deliberate malevolence on behalf of a party or parties - and I don't think that is the case here. No my thinking is more benign and that someone had f'ed up somewhere and has either set the NA allocation too high, or the EU too low accidentally. 
 
Covid logistics and that I'm underestimating the effect? Maybe. But again, I'm not arguing/debating that there wasn't an effect on production (there was, I'm sure!), but rather, that I'm wondering what seemingly is so different with respect of NA and EU. Countries have restricted travel (for people), but yet that really hasn't materialized into cargo drop.
 
Now, before you say it.... a lot of cargo gets transported in "passenger" jets, as in aircraft who's main purpose is to move people - so if you have travel restrictions, therefore you don't have the jets (carrying passengers).... then there's a shortage of space for cargo on routes. However, a lot of airlines took that slack up by retrofitting planes to carry solely cargo, so AFAIK there's no general shortage of available space for cargo on ships/aircraft. If you want something shipped by air/ship, it's available. 
 
Nahh, something broken there.....sadly. However, as I mentioned previously I'm somewhat more optimistic lately for some reason. 

Feuer_Psycho
 
Wow. After all the posts people made to give different explanation why the US could get more cards you are still riding the same old horse alandoy. The same old inequality story about "someone must have done something wrong" or "looking at the numbers it must be the same as". 
There is only one thing to end this neverending Story would be an official post from someone like EVGA_JacobF stating: 
"Sorry  alandoy on behalf of EVGA I want to apologize for the way we mistreated you. In effect immediately we rebalanced the world wide queues to reflect who really is important US:1% EU:95% (some on the board even talk about closing the US market all together and move the headquarter to Vatican City).
To show you how important you are to us alandoy we already dispatched a 3090 Kingpin edition for you on the house. Please forward name & address of all your relatives and your favorite baker they'll all get one too just because we love you. Our engineers came up with a fantastic idea! With the 4000 series release we'll introduce "alandoy  Editions" cards with extra coil whine."

Nashi22
not aknowledging that there are problems and keep saying that everything is/will be fine when you house is on fire is not spreading negativity is just acknowledging reality

alandoy 
it would really be great if EVGA did look in and comment as to why we seem to be significantly behind our cousins.

alandoy
While it could be true, that might be a little harsh :-)
 
 
I've no doubt that the relationship between Nvidia and EVGA (and other board manufacturers) has probably been strained over the last 6 months, but in reality they all need each other as they all profit when the others profit. I know you meant it in a humorous way (and I see the funny side), but if companies reverted to legal avenues like that  - they'd spend half there time in litigation. There's always a bit of "wiggle room" and with the fact that production has been increased a few times to try and match demand, there are (extra) cards coming on channel which originally were not allocated to any specific channel. I've got some experience myself in this space, but not related to GPU board production, so I can't profess to be an expert in this exact situation. 
 
While every company does it differently, the way it normally works is that they divide the space into "channels". So you might divide it up something like. 
- 15% goes to our b2b customers in NA (these being Dell, HP, Lenovo, etc)
- 15% goes to out B2b customers in EU (these being Dell, HP, Lenovo, etc)
- 10% goes to out Australia  
- 10% goes to our large retail customers (Amazon, NewEgg)
- etc
 
So if Nvidia only gives 800 GPU chips (when EVGA were expecting 1000), then they have a decision to make as to who gets a card and who doesn't. They'll have to redistribute the cards somehow, meaning that someone somewhere has to lose out, or everyone takes a hit of the same percentage - or some other mix. Nvidia are kind of out of the loop at this stage - it's an internal EVGA decision. Sure they (Nvidia) might be the root cause of the shortage, but it's up to EVGA to distribute the cards as they see fit. 
 
As you would expect, companies tend to nurture and respect the B2B allocations as much as they can - with good reason. They generate the bulk of profits, and good luck to them. I want them to make as much as they can. It's in my best interest that EVGA makes a nice profit. 
 
Where it gets interesting is what EVGA have done here for their preorder queue. Which I applaud btw -  just in case someone berates me for being negative :-) Now in some respects, they've just putting a "queue" on top of the channel which they already had setup (6 months ago) for their own website. As in when the cards come out, we'll divert 5% of our inventory to the NA evga.com site, and 2% to eu.evga.com , etc. What the spreadsheets have done for me, is to give some insight (probably what EVGA didn't want) into those allocations and I would probably guess they never envisioned that the community would reverse engineer things like they did. The community is to be applauded also for that. 
 
Course, it's a complex space, many variables (some visible, some not), but I'd actually be hugely optimistic that the situation could be improved with minimal communications, and nothing that would give away the state secrets :-) 

As good as it is, one of the things that is so frustrating to everyone is all the "unknowns" with the queue system, right? Think about all the things we don't know:
We don't know how many people are in the queues.
We don't know how many people are ahead of us.
We don't know how many cards are allocated to the queues.
We don't know how many cards are coming or when they will arrive.
We don't know how many people get notifies and then don't make a purchase.
We don't know how many people get notifies and do make a purchase (unless they self-report it).
We don't know how many queue purchases end up directly on eBay.
The list goes on and on...
That is why it is sooo amazing that folks like enewt are able to literally stitch together little bits and pieces of information to at least provide some meaningful insight. A fantastic effort to at least help give us an idea of when we might get our chance to make a purchase. It's a tiny glimmer of hope they provide. So, thanks!
 
What would be helpful would be if EVGA could share some basic queue information aside from which products are being released to the queue on any given day. I mean, let's face it, they know exactly who is in the queue and what position they occupy (after all, it's their queue system!).
 
Clearly, they won't share that level of granularity for fear of their customer service group getting overrun with calls, but I'm sure they could share some meaningful information to help us out. For example, "as of this Friday, we have xxxx people in the SKU 3xxx queue, and to date, we've sold cards to yyyy of them." Not so specific that people could nit-pick the data, but at least something to show how things are progressing. That would be very cool, indeed.
 
To sleep, perchance to dream....

Feuer_Psycho
Our engineers came up with a fantastic idea! With the 4000 series release we'll introduce "alandoy  Editions" cards with extra coil whine."

BovineGamer

No movement yet, (but I have not finished my daily round).
However we do have a bit of campfire now, feel free to join the conversation while we try to figure out where our stock is hidden.