guyvandeberb
alandoy, you paid a scalper , that makes you the problem. you and the rest of the masses. 

• BovineGamer started his spreadsheet a good few weeks/months after the NA one was setup by Ennut, so there has been far more time to get people onto that NA list. This is especially true in the early weeks of us waiting where many many people got onto the NA spreadhseet. Hell I only saw there was an EU spreadsheet myself in December! 
• English is the main language used on this (and the NA) forum and a spanish/german/etc speaking user (who doesn't understand english) simply won't know that there is a spreadsheet, so your filtering by language a little bit. Sure, there are plenty of Europeans who read and understand English (Scandanavians especially), but there's many who don't. 

alandoy

guyvandeberb
alandoy, you paid a scalper , that makes you the problem. you and the rest of the masses. 

 
I'll chalk this down to perhaps English isn't your 1st language (?), but quiet the contrary guvandebarby......I said while I could afford it,  I "stone cold refuse" to pay any scalper any money as that just creates an industry which i don't want to see exist.  Again, if nobody bought cards from scalpers - there would thankfully be no scalpers as they would have no reason to scalp cards as they couldn't get a profit. To be clear  - I have not paid a scalper, nor will I and why I'm patiently here waiting.  
 
Feuer - I'd seriously (seriously!) doubt that there are 20x times more customers in NA than there are in Europe. You might have +/- 20%, maybe (?), but no way is it 20x. There are a lot of good explanations why this is the case - although hard to prove as we don't have the figures. 
 

• BovineGamer started his spreadsheet a good few weeks/months after the NA one was setup by Ennut, so there has been far more time to get people onto that NA list. This is especially true in the early weeks of us waiting where many many people got onto the NA spreadhseet. Hell I only saw there was an EU spreadsheet myself in December! 
• English is the main language used on this (and the NA) forum and a spanish/german/etc speaking user (who doesn't understand english) simply won't know that there is a spreadsheet, so your filtering by language a little bit. Sure, there are plenty of Europeans who read and understand English (Scandanavians especially), but there's many who don't. 

Most of Europe is a 1st world country (even Ireland) and would have the same level/demograhics as the US. Education/gamer saturation/education/access to money to purchase. It'd be a stretch to see it much different from the US. 
 
 
 

avatar_sf
Forgot to mention - the reason why the US typically gets more electronics than the EU is again....drum roll, please...logistics. Being a single country enables large retailers to pre-order huge quantities which makes shipping them at scale much easier. Now imagine the EU where a German retailer will order 10 000 units, Italian one will order 5000 units and so one and then you have Best Buy which pre-orders 1 million - guess, where most of these will go first and which country has way more cargo ships going back and forth to China ;) That's part of the reason why stuff is cheaper there as well - economies of scale and savings from shipping costs.
 

enewt
Sounds like for our folks in UK, Brexit is the next shoe from the centipede to drop on this Tech Launch Debacle 2020-2021™ (© NVIDIA 2020-2023).
 
https://www.pcgamer.com/pc-gaming-hardware-brexit-impact/
 
"I think the [RTX] 3080 MSRP is going up. Soon, I think I'm seeing that announced, and the card that may be £700 at launch is going to be £750 soon. It's because the cost of the item is increasing. There are additional component costs, there's additional freight charge now. There will be other factors like exchange gain, or the dollar rate or the Euro value that affect everything as well. But ultimately, the price of that card will go up. And it might not be obvious to every consumer why. It might just look like the retailer might try to make a bit more margin, generally it's not."

wabbi
****ing EU queue is an actual joke at the moment. An entire week of no recorded movement, so probably no - low actual movement. Think I'm going to compromise for an ASUS card. Seen those dropping left and right at (r)etailers in my region.

alandoy
I've been saying it for weeks, statistically the EU queues are "broken" with respect to getting cards through the pipe. I don't buy into the "logistics" argument either about Europe being more difficult that the US. Sure, you might be able to deal with "multi-state" chains like B&H etc, but the EU has many similar huge front end stores  for example Amazon, who have a french site, German site, etc. In fact, there's even an argument that logistics is easier once you get into Europe than it is stateside. The USA is big. Very big. Moving cards from the east coast to the west cost is a substantial distance. Once your in the EU, with the "free trade" agreements, goods are able to move country freely (sorry England - your out of the club now!). It's probably easier to distribute cards from a central drop in the Netherlands outwards with the much smaller distances involved than it is from SanDiego to the keys in Florida (for example).....but it's sort of a moot point. 
 
Ultimately the queues should be moving roughly the same across all locales. The fact that they are not raises eyebrows with me. It smells of "favoritism" - and something that (I'd have hoped) EVGA would be above. Similarly, the debate that "Ohh they have contracts in place with shops" - doesn't ring true with me. The reason being is that while the statement is 100% true, it also true across all domains. EVGA also have contracts in place with NA retailers - so the challenges there (in North America) seem solved ..... but not in EU ?!
 
Nope - something "very rotten in the state of Denmark" to quote Shakespeare. 

One thing that I'd like to comment on when I hear people saying...
     "ohh but they are maximizing profit by doing x or y!! - taking advantage of the situation"
People need to re-appraise their thing around that. It's actually in ours (and EVGA's) best interest that EVGA make money. Yes, that's right you WANT them to make money! I know it sounds odd. ideally not oodles and oodles of money, but if they aren't making money, then they won't be in the game for long and then we as consumers have less choice. So we want/need them to make a profit. Sure - not a massive one at yours or my expense, but hopefully large enough to keep them around. :-) .... and fair play to them. 

alandoy
Yeah AMD have come up with some good cards there, the 6800xt being no exception. I've always been of the opinion that hardware wise AMD are pretty much on par with Nvidia, probably better truth be told on a "value equation", as in they are better value for the same money. Personally I never buy AMD, but that's down to "pig-headedness" on my part. About 10 years ago, AMD tortured me with some game or other I wanted to play (Bad Company 2, I think?!). Kept blue screening the game. Card was (hardware wise) fine, but the driver was poor - all my buddies on Nvidia rocking away fine as my blood pressure rose!  Eventually driver update came out 3-4 weeks and solved the issue. Swore to myself back then I'd never buy a AMD card again - and haven't since. Yeah, I know....I did say I'm pig headed :-) 
 
Lack of Scalpers in Eastern Europe: LOL! Don't know if i should say that's a good thing or bad thing, lets err on the side that it's a good thing. We shouldn't applaud the fact that someone preys on the situation  - but it sucks that legitimate retailers are profiteering on the lack of cards. 
 
Enjoy the card man - hope it gives you many years of enjoyment!