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2023/10/17 08:21:26 (permalink)
Dear EVGA,
 
As you promised in post https://forums.evga.com/FindPost/3611921 by EVGATech_ChrisB. When can we expect BIOS update for Z790 motherboards to support Intel 14th Gen CPUs which are being released TODAY?

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Re: Support for 14th Intel CPUs 2023/10/17 10:07:02 (permalink)
EVGA's radio silence is ominously deafening...

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Re: Support for 14th Intel CPUs 2023/10/17 13:42:26 (permalink)
Hey EVGA? Where ya at? 

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Re: Support for 14th Intel CPUs 2023/10/17 13:55:00 (permalink)
Would be nice to see a bios update for the 14900k for the z690 & z790 dark for people who want to upgrade. I’ll be sticking with my 13900k as the 14900k just isn’t worth it imo.
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Re: Support for 14th Intel CPUs 2023/10/17 13:58:39 (permalink)
I have Z790 Classified still sealed and I've ordered i9 14900K now I'm just waiting for this damn BIOS upgrade in order to complete my new rig! EVGA C'MON!

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Re: Support for 14th Intel CPUs 2023/10/17 14:03:01 (permalink)
Come on, im so tempted to buy a 14900k from my 13900k to pair with my z790 classified. Please evga release that update
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Re: Support for 14th Intel CPUs 2023/10/17 14:19:06 (permalink)
I got a 14900k right now and I'm waiting for the update.
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Re: Support for 14th Intel CPUs 2023/10/17 14:46:14 (permalink)
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I got a 14900k right now and I'm waiting for the update.


I was going to run to Microcenter today to get one, but I figured I would wait to be safe. I want to be optimistic and am willing to wait a little bit for the update, as im not changing from my Dark board for years. But I like others here would at least like a message from EVGA even if it’s “still coming soon”.
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Re: Support for 14th Intel CPUs 2023/10/17 15:31:01 (permalink)
a shame, just a shame.
where are all the fanboys?
i still hope that a bios will be released, but in my opinion is already too late.
 
 
edit:
and where's Vince "Kingpin" Lucido? No matter what, there's his sign on this boards and on this board's marketing images, it's an his responsability too.
post edited by nlodeserto - 2023/10/17 15:33:43

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Re: Support for 14th Intel CPUs 2023/10/17 15:52:41 (permalink)
AFAIK also EVGA_Lee who posted here on forum all these BIOSes, is no longer with EVGA.
 
I think EVGA should at least clear things up by either saying on launch day of Intel 14th gen GPUs:
 
  1. YES you will get update on XX.XX date
  2. NO there won't be any updates anymore

It literary takes 10 sec to reply in this thread with that info! Instead they just keep ignoring us!


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Re: Support for 14th Intel CPUs 2023/10/17 16:04:01 (permalink)
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It literary takes 10 sec to reply in this thread with that info! Instead they just keep ignoring us!

 
EVGA has limited staff, just let the ones left do their job, he does not get payed for loafing around in the forums.
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Re: Support for 14th Intel CPUs 2023/10/17 19:15:19 (permalink)
EVGA is usually late to the game

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Re: Support for 14th Intel CPUs 2023/10/17 20:32:02 (permalink)
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It literary takes 10 sec to reply in this thread with that info! Instead they just keep ignoring us!

 
EVGA has limited staff, just let the ones left do their job, he does not get payed for loafing around in the forums.


"loafing around"??? Spend ten seconds replying to people who paid over a thousand €/$ for a motherboard without FW/SW support seems like loafing to you to you?
 
Fanboys, evga is dead, please go elsewhere and find another brand to venerate.
And if it's not, we deserve some support here.

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Re: Support for 14th Intel CPUs 2023/10/18 01:05:33 (permalink)
EVGA literally has no one doing bioses anymore.


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Re: Support for 14th Intel CPUs 2023/10/18 04:11:20 (permalink)
At this point I believe no answer is your answer.

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Re: Support for 14th Intel CPUs 2023/10/18 05:38:47 (permalink)
I will just leave this here again:
 


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Re: Support for 14th Intel CPUs 2023/10/18 06:14:33 (permalink)
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I will just leave this here again:
 



And yet... here we are. 14th gen is out in the world and no updated BIOS from EVGA to make their boards compatible. They haven't even bothered to say 'don't worry guys, we're running a little late but its almost done now. Please wait a little longer'. What's happening is complete radio silence for almost 2 months now. And for a company who may or may not be closing down entirely, you'd expect them to be a little more reassuring. But since they're not reassuring anybody, it's natural to assume the worst. Most plausable answer is that the original BIOS team have jumped ship just like many of the other ex EVGA team members. Maybe they planned to release 14th gen compatibility BIOS but after losing their last BIOS guy, that is no longer possible. Why else would they remain so hushed about it?

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Re: Support for 14th Intel CPUs 2023/10/18 06:18:07 (permalink)
I called evga on Monday and asked about the bios update for 14th gen. they said they are going to release it but did not tell me when. I also asked them if there were any bugs in the bios later down the line would they release another bios to fix them and they said if there is a bug that causes problem they will also release a updated version. I can understand ppl being in limbo because they bought a 14th gen cpu, I'm in that same boat but I have faith evga will be good on there word with this bios release. just might take a little bit more time since we know how they reduced company and staff wise.    
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Re: Support for 14th Intel CPUs 2023/10/18 06:51:10 (permalink)
Kingpin Vince himself just posted on FaceBook with a pic of the z790 Dark saying "Intel's 14900k and kf running great on the z790 dark and z790 classified with the lastest PREVIOUS Bios releases"
 
 
I guess that IS the END of EVGA....
 
 

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Re: Support for 14th Intel CPUs 2023/10/18 06:55:08 (permalink)
Regardless of how you look at it, if they can’t release a bios update for a cpu launch day while other manufacturers have had them for MONTHS, imagine the annoyance when you discover something specific is not compatible in the future and having to wait an unknown number of months for a fix with almost zero confirmations of a time frame or the possibility of actually having it fixed. As much as I’ve enjoyed EVGA products for over a decade, I feel like it’s just finally time to let go

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Re: Support for 14th Intel CPUs 2023/10/18 07:31:01 (permalink)
This is in no way defending them not having a BIOS on launch, but advise for others. Yes I have some extreme cooling, but my OC'd 13900k beats every 14900k review score I've seen so far. It's a pretty pointless update. You can save some money and just buy a 13900k (over a 14900k) and get the same performance out of the box or beat it with an OC. I'm betting anybody with a good 280+ sized AIO can do a slight overclock and have the same CPU as a 14900k or even better. It's the same chip.
 
If you were hoping to go to a 14700k...I'd point you to 13700k or 13900k again. I'd be pretty leery of trying to build a new system with an EVGA product today as we don't even know how long they'll be doing warranty work at this point.
 
I'm not surprised they didn't have a BIOS ready, but I'm a little surprised not to see any staff post anything on the forums yesterday.

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Re: Support for 14th Intel CPUs 2023/10/18 07:44:57 (permalink)
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This is in no way defending them not having a BIOS on launch, but advise for others. Yes I have some extreme cooling, but my OC'd 13900k beats every 14900k review score I've seen so far. It's a pretty pointless update. You can save some money and just buy a 13900k (over a 14900k) and get the same performance out of the box or beat it with an OC. I'm betting anybody with a good 280+ sized AIO can do a slight overclock and have the same CPU as a 14900k or even better. It's the same chip.

And if they drop a 14900KS? No excuses unfortunately. I dropped EVGA support an email today and if they get back to me about bios updates for 690/790 boards I'll let you guys know what they say.
 
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Kingpin Vince himself just posted on FaceBook with a pic of the z790 Dark saying "Intel's 14900k and kf running great on the z790 dark and z790 classified with the lastest PREVIOUS Bios releases"
 

Got a pic or more info on the post from Vince? Any idea which bios # he is using? Thanks =)
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Re: Support for 14th Intel CPUs 2023/10/18 07:53:59 (permalink)
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And if they drop a 14900KS? No excuses unfortunately. I dropped EVGA support an email today and if they get back to me about bios updates for 690/790 boards I'll let you guys know what they say.

 
I already said I wasn't defending EVGA (i.e. not making excuses for them). I'm just saying it's a pointless "generation" from intel, according to pretty much every review.
 
As others have said, it's possible that the 14900k will work on the current EVGA BIOS as it is a 13900ks with slightly different clocks (likely what Vince was doing). It may not clock correctly because of that though, so you'd want to manually set clocks. The 14700k is a different configuration than any 13-series, so it makes sense the boards don't even recognize those.

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Re: Support for 14th Intel CPUs 2023/10/18 07:57:42 (permalink)
I imagine that Vince did a microcode update, or he is using one CPU which does work, while others don't. He probably isn't telling a complete story.  And a solution for one person with some means isn't a solution for everyone.

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Re: Support for 14th Intel CPUs 2023/10/18 08:09:11 (permalink)
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I imagine that Vince did a microcode update, or he is using one CPU which does work, while others don't. He probably isn't telling a complete story.  And a solution for one person with some means isn't a solution for everyone.


A fair point

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Re: Support for 14th Intel CPUs 2023/10/18 09:25:28 (permalink)
Only this, without any argoument or specific, and with just fan comments.

 
For me it's simply not enough. And I follow Kingpin from years, and I bought this board also for him.
and doesn't matter if the 14gen it's or it's not a valid update, that's not the question here.

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Re: Support for 14th Intel CPUs 2023/10/18 12:32:07 (permalink)
Well I can share that I submitted a customer service ticket Monday asking about the BIOS, if it was coming still, or if they could update regarding when, and got a response near end of day Tuesday stating "this is still being looked at, unfortunately I cannot provide you an ETA."  I think we would all feel better if that sort of update was provided to everyone here in the forum from EVGA directly, but I appreciate the honesty from the customer service rep that no ETA was available at this time.
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Re: Support for 14th Intel CPUs 2023/10/18 13:02:28 (permalink)
If it turns out the BIOS updates were just to support 14700K and tweak some voltages here and there and the 14900K works flawlessly it would be a bummer that we have to wait to find that out, but it does seem likely that some other tinkering was required.  But seeing as the only people here that had a 14900K or KF and posted about it returned their's I guess we will keep waiting to find out.  Maybe someone on a site like overclock.net will try it out and post about it.
 
But also knowing that the primary difference between 13900KS and 14900K is the name on the chip and not a massive gap in performance I am slightly less salty now than I was before all the reviews went live.  Sure the per core throtling and even better bin sounds nice, and I would appreciate higher clocks at less voltage, but I guess I can always get a 14900K in a few months and sell my KS once more is known.  I am bummed but not in dire need.
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Re: Support for 14th Intel CPUs 2023/10/18 13:08:26 (permalink)
EVGA CS said to me:
The BIOS to support the Raptor Lakes has been requested. Unfortunately we do not have an ETA at this time.

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Re: Support for 14th Intel CPUs 2023/10/18 13:54:39 (permalink)
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EVGA CS said to me:
The BIOS to support the Raptor Lakes has been requested. Unfortunately we do not have an ETA at this time.

Regards,
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Sounds like the original BIOS team has already left the company and now they're trying to hire some temps to do one last update

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