In terms of comparison: The only difference is clock speed. The Core i9-14900K can boost to 6GHz out of the box, while the Core i9-13900K tops out at 5.8GHz. In addition, the Core i9-14900K comes with a 200MHz boost to both the base and boost clock speeds of the performance cores and efficiency cores.

Unless there are other differences, the Z790 Dark / Z790 Classified is still a very good MB for 13900K or KF or KS variant.

Given that LGA1700 is the last for 13th/14th Gen CPUs , LGA 1851 is an upcoming socket for Arrow Lake-S desktop processors and Lunar Lake-S desktop processors, and EVGA might not make another motherboard, might as well use it for the 13th Gen.

Thoughts?

ksivagn09
Thoughts?

I think that there are three pages of people saying that they don't care if the 14th gen Intel isn't a worthwhile upgrade from 13th gen in anyone's opinion, they just want what EVGA promised, while others bought the board and the chip and don't have a 13th gen chip to fall back on.
 
I think that EVGA will not make another motherboard, and EVGA should provide the support that they committed to providing, for the sake of the misled buyers.  I think EVGA management is too proud to admit how much the company has declined.

 
I made a meme.
 

 

B0baganoosh
I remember when I used to be able to PM EVGA' Lee M a question about motherboard BIOS, features, or if something was being worked on...and I would get a reply and/or he'd come in here and help people or at least provide an update. Same goes for sending Jacob a message. Ah, the good old days.

Yeah Lee was always very helpful to me too. Above and beyond, consistently.
 

KimbaWLion
 
For the money, while it might not be the best there is, the Asrock Z790 Nova is looking like a super feature packed Motherboard for UNDER $300.

I was looking at that one too. Until I realized it does not have dual bios or bios flashback.
Make sure you're willing to accept that.
So strange because the board has such great features.

KimbaWLion
 
 
It really is hard choosing another board... 

It's pretty easy, Shamino who made EVGA's motherboards amazing that Andrew Han chased away by pissing him off for a fault he brought to Andrew Hans attention that Andrew said ship anyways then snapped on him.... Well Shamino went to ASUS and its how their motherboards became so amazing all of a sudden. Well ASUS has gotten Shamino out of retirement and hes back at ASUS. So there you have it. Want a pure OCers board? Get the new ASUS Gen II Apex z790.

donta1979

KimbaWLion
 
 
It really is hard choosing another board... 

It's pretty easy, Shamino who made EVGA's motherboards amazing that Andrew Han chased away by pissing him off for a fault he brought to Andrew Hans attention that Andrew said ship anyways then snapped on him.... Well Shamino went to ASUS and its how their motherboards became so amazing all of a sudden. Well ASUS has gotten Shamino out of retirement and hes back at ASUS. So there you have it. Want a pure OCers board? Get the new ASUS Gen II Apex z790.

 
I follow Buildzoid (Actually Hardcore overclocking), and his feelings are very plain. Do not overpay for a MB. I didn't pay anywhere near $649 (price of the Asus APEX on Newegg currently) for my 790Z Classified and usually don't pay over $400 for any MB, it's usually a bit less. I paid like $465 for the Classified as an exception to the rule as I had Amazon Credit card points. I am not a pure over clocker either, I do okay for a bit of OCing and I like my stable rig. I also have had Asus MBs and other Asus products and most have had issues within their warranty period, and it was h@ll on earth getting Asus to honor warranties and even get good tech support! Maybe that has changed but I had one their upper end routers die in 6 months about a year or 2 ago and it was a HUGE hassle even with the receipt and registering it. They make great stuff when it works, just like most MB makers. Evga USE to be special with their tech support, warranty service and quality products. Unfortunately, those days are a by gone era. 
 
For anyone interested, I bought a combo package of $838 for the Asrock Nova and the Intel 14900K from Microcenter matching Newegg. Is the Asrock Nova a super world beater? WcfTech says its a good value! I have never bought a TOTL MB or CPU in recent memory.
I am aware of the Nova's Bios limitations, and I can live with them. I am sure the Asus Z790 APEX II is an amazing MB but I paid around $250 for the Nova, is the APEX over 2.5x better? Maybe to a PURE overclocker, which I am not. I just want a stable FAST running rig, I am NOT going to break any world records! Just my thoughts and I am not trying to upset anyone. The APEX II looks like an amazing MB, it just isn't for me. I truly do wish I could have kept my Z790 Classified knowing 100% it would get updates etc. but I am not that trusting a guy these days...

donta1979
I would still rather have a board designed & supported by Shamino. That is just me, if you are not a pure overclocker, go with a Rog Strix Z790-E or a TUF Z790 DDR5 if you want budget.  Not crazy about ASRock boards.

Asus boards except Z790 Apex are underwhelming and suffering from various problems
even Z690 APEX was defective crap designed by Shamino, Asus scammed a lot of people with this board and quickly EOL them
they didn't inform customers, they didn't apologize, they just kept quiet

ilukeberry
Like EVGA is quiet now and just waiting for this "BIOS support for 14th gen" noise to pass :)

EVGA is dead while Asus is alive and still selling defective motherboards
two big differences

donta1979
I would still rather have a board designed & supported by Shamino. That is just me, if you are not a pure overclocker, go with a Rog Strix Z790-E or a TUF Z790 DDR5 if you want budget.  Not crazy about ASRock boards.

 
Asrock Taichi Boards are VERY well regarded. Look no one makes the perfect board, I bought the warranty from Microcenter, and they are really nice about honoring things. I can only hope the Nova is a good board. It has good reviews so far, it's got a ton of nice
features, perfect it's not. This will be the first time I haven't used an EVGA MB since BEFORE my Evga X58 FTW board way back in the day. I have used several Tyan and Supermicro server boards and NEVER had a problem. I've built Asrock MB systems for a few
people and NEVER had any issues, who knows I may be the first, thought I hope not! I guess I will know soon enough, I just have to stop working so many hours... 
 

Absurd that we don't have a 14th gen bios yet, but @EVGA_RMA_JaysonC is happy to jump in right away and reply to scrubs in the power supplies section of the forum. So does anyone at EVGA have a spinal cord stiff enough to give us a proper clear message regarding 14th gen bios update for supported mobos?

oldfresh
Absurd that we don't have a 14th gen bios yet, but @EVGA_RMA_JaysonC is happy to jump in right away and reply to scrubs in the power supplies section of the forum. So does anyone at EVGA have a spinal cord stiff enough to give us a proper clear message regarding 14th gen bios update for supported mobos?

My guess is that support stuff got instructions not to comment anything regarding Z690 and Z790 motherboards, since they don't have motherboard department anymore and they cannot provide any software or technical support.

 

ilukeberry

 

At least they used the word "Once" instead of "if."

Guess I'm going with the i9-13900KS for now then. 
Let's hope that EVGA gets that update out before the amazon return window of January 31st closes. lol