i7-2600k@4.6ghz
16gig ddr3@1600mhz cl9
2 x Evga GTX680

16,000 3dmark11

I normally run in game v-sync and default NVCP settings.

Tried with adaptive v-sync and in game v-sync off and frames in parts went to 150+ showing adaptive v-sync didn't work.

Also tried setting it to single screen performance and adaptive and max performance on power settings, all did nothing.

oias.heeda

Hey Maniac. Do you still recommend the driver you have listed in your first post as the best driver?

 
Nvidia 301.42 is the driver I currently recommend for BF3

walktexranga

i7-2600k@4.6ghz
16gig ddr3@1600mhz cl9
2 x Evga GTX680

16,000 3dmark11

I normally run in game v-sync and default NVCP settings.

Tried with adaptive v-sync and in game v-sync off and frames in parts went to 150+ showing adaptive v-sync didn't work.
 

Also tried setting it to single screen performance and adaptive and max performance on power settings, all did nothing.

 
Bro, you have such great hardware -and- a 120hz monitor... why are you even using Vsync?
 
Crank all the settings up to MAX (*I suggest Motion Blur OFF and pick one AA model)
Turn off all Vsync and enjoy the -killer- performance levels you paid for with that awesome hardware
 

On max details fps drop into 40's and 50's in parts with low gpu usage, I'll try your recommended drivers and advise.
 
 
Looks like its the recent patch.. seen many with same issue on guru3d
 

HI guys I think that I got a little problem of performance but no idea what it can be... I need you help guys please.

I7-2600@4.8 SSD Samsung 830 670 windforce x3


Well this is my story, I bought the 670 and I start playing Battlefield 3 like 2 weeks ago with the new 670 (Before 5870) and I think that the performance was just perfect I mean 60FPS all the time and if in one occasion was dropping a little bit you couldn't almost feel it, well the point now is that:

I had to put a new windows  because i got also booth this week the SSD 830 samsung (just wonderful) well I started playing and ups

when I'm with tanks or flying or shooting my FPS decreases randomly from 60 to 40, 50 and so on and I can feel it and sometimes when I'm walking with a little bit of smoke or whatever well, I think that is not normal but 670 it should work all ULTRA right?

well I've realizes that if I put my graphic card at 1280core and + 510 MEM O my go it works perfect I got some problems when I'm flying close to the floor and going trough building and so on.

Do you know the best setting to play it without this problem but it should work perfect.
 
With OC 70% of usage most of the time with peaks of 99% just when I fly with helicopter..
I can't believe it PLEASE best setting for my Graphic card? (I bought it new and I can't manage this gam properly O MY GOD. I mean ULTRA)

FourTwoFour

Hey Maniac what FPS should I expect with 12GB RAM, i7 975 @ 4.0 and 2x EVGA GTX 580 3GB? Ultra, no AA (I use FXAA) recently I've been dropping down to 50 on seine crossing and caspian border for no reason. Used to be 80+ fps at all times.

Which drivers and settings should I be using? Thanks in advance

 
301.42 gives great in game performance on the 500 series (I use it personally)
Between the recent drivers and some patching, there does appear to be some added frame drops in some situations.
The only thing to really check for a issue is your CPU temps (for throttling), other than that we will have to wait and see what the official 305.xx driver branch brings and wait out the massive DICE patch coming next month. 
 
 

FourTwoFour

Running a custom loop with EK WB's so nothing is overheating at all. I just realized we can use Adaptive Vsync on BF3 (not sure if that gets rid of the mouse lag) you know.. that terrible vsync mouse lag.

What do you think about performance in the nVidia panel? Set to Adaptive or Prefer Maximum Performance? I don't care about power consumption. Just curious which one gives more FPS.. I'm using adaptive atm and it makes me think it's not giving enough juice to 3D apps like BF3

 
Both the adaptive and max performance setting give the same FPS in BF3.
I have not encountered any instance of downclocking in-game using Adaptive, as such it is the setting I prefer. Some other older games can and will downclock when using the adaptive setting... but BF3 is not one of them.
 
As for Vsync, it should not be used in BF3 with high end hardware, the advantage of higher framerates is too great given the games design. I do not use it.

FourTwoFour

Well I'm using a 60Hz monitor and I usually cap my FPS to 64 in-game (that gets rid of tearing.. for me it must be exactly 64) what I don't know is.. does Adaptive vSync get rid of the mouse lag? There's a difference between the new Adaptive vSync and the old vSync. Heard the new one doesn't have any mouse lag (can't try it right now because Battlelog is down for maintenance)

Having more than 60 FPS on a 60HZ monitor really gives no advantage at all :p

 
What tearing? just what kind of monitor are you using?
 
"Having more than 60 FPS on a 60HZ monitor really gives no advantage at all"
This is completely incorrect, higher framerates means better hit detection in multiplayer games vs lower framerates. Higher framerates also make the gameplay feel much smoother
 
 

FourTwoFour

With a 120Hz, yes. 60Hz is 60Hz.. all you'll get is some smoothness. There's no advantage between 60 and 120.. 60 is good enough.

 
Sorry bro, you have no idea what your talking about.
Modern high quality 60hz monitors do not tear, even at framerates approaching 200fps as long as the display pipeline is correctly setup and the horsepower is available.
 
As for 60fps "being enough" you are completely incorrect.
Why on earth would you buy SLI 580's and use frame caps or Vsync?
Properly configured high end hardware is -made- to provide the very best gaming experience at higher framerates.
 
Please feel free to run your hardware however you wish, but do not claim the running over 60fps is meaningless in multiplayer fps games when it is certainly not the case.
 
From your statements, it appear that you have never run a properly setup high end monitor with your 580's
Sounds like you are using a TV or a monitor with a post processing unit, if you seeing mouse lag and tearing.....
 

Your appear to not understand the limitations of the IPS panel display you are using.
 
I happen to have wrote both this BF3 guide, the BFBC2 and Nvidia driver guides on this site...
I -know- how games and hardware work my friend.
 
Please enjoy your setup and run it however you feel works best for you
 
 

FourTwoFour

the limitations (if any) are probably nothing. It was working all good before and now I get random tearing because of the new patches / drivers. Capping the frames in-game to 64 gets rid of it all without any mouse lag (just tried adaptive vsync it still gives mouse lag) I'll report back if there's any improvement after installing win 7 on SSD and the game on SSD + a whole new clean OS pretty much. Maybe it's my OS, but many people have been reporting problems with the BF3 patches.. terrible performance.

What's so different between my monitor and yours? and why was it working just fine before and now it isn't?

Options:

1. My OS is messed up
2. BF3 patches screwed everything up for certain users
3. NVIDIA and their amazing drivers joined #2 option and made it even more beautiful.

Not blaming them at all, maybe it's something on my side (doubt it, pretty clean PC) will reinstall because I need to install the new SSD's anyway.

Do you use any SSD for your BF3? If so, did you see any improvements in any way by switching from ur HDD

Sorry if I offended you in any way. Just trying to resolve this as it was working just fine before. I'll report back after I reinstall Windows 7 and let you know! :) Are you using Windows 8 btw? What do you have to say about it.. should I use Win 8 instead?

 
Sorry bro, my agent orange acts up at 4am when it comes to top end hardware and games
 
You appear to have a couple of issues that are impacting your performance.
I would be happy to discover these issues with you personally and get you running better
 
I see you are in Europe. How is your english and do you have TS3?
If so, we should meet up on EVGA's TS3 voice comm channel and I will help you get the most out of your hardware for gaming.
 
Please PM me and we can go over your config and settings together 

etienneb29

I would like to ask what kind of specification a monitor needs to not show tearing.

I ask that because I gamed on multiple computers and monitors and I always noticed tearing. Also, I read multiple articles on the Web mentioning tearing was not dependent of the monitor.

Knowing what kind of monitor to look for to avoid tearing would be useful for my next one.

Thanks,

 
Use of extremely fast response time TN panels (2ms) and complete avoidance of units containing hardware based post processing, along with -not- installing post processing "software" that often is packaged with many displays, provides the best possible avoidance of tearing due to excessive framerates.
 
Since tearing is a display artifact caused by sync differentials at the monitor itself, it cannot be recorded on a users system. Only photographing the screen can show what it looks like from a users point of view....
If you suffer from it, there is no doubt whatsoever as it is completely unbearable (as below)

 
 
 
 

Please excuse the low quality of the recording as it was done with a cell phone. But it is able to show that my config does not suffer from classic vertical sync tearing issues. At no time does the screen display the classic sync frame tearing.
Close examination of the video will certainly show some frame interpolation/ghosting on fast swings, but at no time is the frame lock lost and classic frame tearing does not occur even at 200fps
 
 
Video--> http://blip.tv/file/get/M...isplayRecording405.m4v

FourTwoFour

I think I used the wrong words then. My problem is that the game doesn't feel as smooth when not capped. I mean it still does feel smooth, but when capped it's super smooth like the same as using vsync but without the mouse lag. I don't see any of those lines you showed up there. I guess my problem is something else.. probably because of this old OS that needs some cleaning lol. That must be it.. since it was working just fine before.

Strike at Karkand with 64 players with everything destroyed doesn't feel very smooth at some places. Do you suffer from the same?

Thanks for the video btw!

 
Hey, do you have TS3... lets jump on the EVGA TS3 and go over your setup together.
Bet I can get it running -much- better for you, once we take a look at your setup together
 
Normally I would give you my phone number, but since you are in europe and my phone bill is already $175 bucks in the hole for overseas support this month... its got to be TS3 bro

FourTwoFour

I'm not home atm (where my computer is) typing this on a laptop. I guess we could try fixing it if you have time. Do you use Steam so I can add you on there? 

 
 
No Steam installed on this system
I currently have voice com setups for TS3 and MSM for support at this time.
It is 1:09pm here where I am. Would you like to meet on EVGA TS3 in about 9hrs? That would be 10pm my time?
 
Your issues are beginning to sound alot like USB overpolling issues bro, combined with possible frame to render time issues into the buffer. Both are quite easy to fix once we know the details