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I love that Aunt May's words are considered too profane for this discussion but what EVGA's rule change is doing to it's customers is not.

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I've been in queue for any card since 9/17/20, and whatever change occurred finally sent me my first notify.  08G-P5-3755-KL from 12/7/2020 just hit.   Happily purchased even though I would have preferred a 3080.  Came to this thread expecting celebration and I see people with multiple cards already feeling sad.  Can't relate. Happy day here thanks to this better system.

 
Congratulations and thanks for reporting back to the community. 
 
Enjoy your new gaming goodness!
 

saskiaaaaa
Forum lurker for a while here. Just received my notify. 12G-P5-3967-KR 6/3/2021 8:56:55 AM PT Yes
 
Purchased and used enewt's associate code. Thanks for making this wait a little more bearable. Wishing everyone else the best of luck snagging cards with this less-than-ideal change!

Congratulations and thanks for reporting back to this thread.
 
Thanks also for your kind words and for using the  for your 3% discount at checkout; both are appreciated.
 
Enjoy your new -- and for the moment, only -- queue-sourced gaming goodness! 

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12/7/2020 9:53:31 PM PTYes

I vote no confidence in Jacob F as EVGA product manager.  This is absolutely ridiculous.
 
I'm sure all the scalpers that this policy change will benefit will be on here thanking Jacob.  
 
Nah, they don't post here.
 
 

nomoss

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I love that Aunt May's words are considered too profane for this discussion but what EVGA's rule change is doing to it's customers is not.

Is open rebellion against the TOS?

This is not how I had anticipated this week would progress. On the eve of the one year anniversary of the Queue announcement, EVGA materially changed the Queue rules without notice. Longtime EVGA consumers that had previously purchased a 30 series from the queue -- perhaps to tide themselves over until their preferred card’s queue reached them, to help out a friend/co-worker/or to play the “Don’t Come” bar against the community via scalping -- are left out in the cold. If I had my druthers, I would have made the change prospectively -- not retroactively -- so as to afford those EVGA account holders the opportunity to make an informed decision about whether to click the “buy” button for a lesser card than their preferred 30 series gpu, instead EVGA has left it for “Jensen to sort them out.” 
 
Query whether EVGA didn’t make it a prospective change because:
 

1. it added an additional layer of complexity that made it too difficult to reasonably track; 
2. a prospective change didn’t model out sufficient improvement in getting queue sitters at least one card from the queue before: (i) the 40 series launches, (ii) the supply completely dries up, or (iii) the launch of Baywatch: Manheim Nursing Home Wading Pool -- as revivals go, that one is a clear sign of the apocalypse; or
3. EVGA_JacobF got tired of drawing certain community members like his French girls and immediately needed some new material. 

I am still digesting this change -- and haven’t yet had an opportunity to discuss with enewt jr. what it means for this summary effort -- but here are a few thoughts: 
 

1. Effective immediately, the summary table will look different in the Google Docs version. The MPQ is faded in green as a placeholder which we will hopefully return to once the yet-to-purchase-a-card queue sitters are exhausted.
2. The queues’ speed will ramp up (and continue to accelerate over time (notwithstanding major events in the timeline (e.g., Oct 5-7, 2020)) as more and more folks buy their first 30 series from the queue or “pass” to wait for their preferred SKU’s queue.
3. It will be tougher and tougher to source reports for purposes of this summary...first time purchases and scalpers/bot owners with multiple “fresh” accounts are less likely to report back to the community. Expect an increase in days with no reports or fewer reports, as well as bigger jumps in the timeline when reports do reach me. My request to the community is to please report your original timestamp when you receive an “invite to purchase” email, even when you “pass” on it.  
4. There will be a lot of folks who, having not learned of this change, believe themselves skipped. Please let them down easy. 
5. Similarly, if you have friends in the queue that have not purchased a card, please take a moment to give them a heads-up in case they are in multiple queues and their preferred SKU is not likely to be the subject of the next invite to hit their inbox. 

If I may just ask one last thing of those of us who -- like me -- are negatively impacted by this change (I bought my brother a card from the queue back in the fall of 2020)...the folks at EVGA are trying hard to maximize the opportunity for the greatest number of gamers. Not all of us may agree with this decision, but let’s please not demonize the folks who made it; I am 100% confident that this revision to the rules was made in good faith and in the belief that this will benefit the community at large. 
 
Finally, back on September 17, I mentioned that I had worked with EVGA on a t-shirt design to memorialize our time in the EVGA queue. With tomorrow being the one year anniversary of the Queue announcement, I plan on revealing the mock-up of the shirt in tomorrow evening’s summary intro.
 
Best of luck!
 
As of 2:55 pm PT Monday, October 4, this is the status of the North American queues (bolded font represents movement from the morning of October 4; italicized parentheticals calculate the length of movement from the prior report)):
 
Card                                   SKU                    Most Recent Registration Timestamp to Receive an Invite to Purchase email
 
Ultra
3090 FTW3 Ultra                 3987                   02/05/2021 00:06:00 
3090 XC3 Ultra                   3975                   10/06/2020 16:08:40
3080 Ti FTW3 Ultra             3967                    06/03/2021 08:56:58       (00:00:46)
3080 FTW3 Ultra                3897-KL               10/06/2020 23:42:03 
3080 XC3 Ultra                  3885-KL               09/19/2020 13:17:59
3070 Ti FTW3 Ultra             3797                   06/10/2021 06:54:07
3070 Ti XC3 Ultra               3785                    06/15/2021 09:29:30
3070 FTW3 Ultra                3767-KL               12/10/2020 15:13:31 
3070 XC3 Ultra                  3755-KL                12/07/2020 21:53:31    (40:12:21)
3060 Ti FTW3 Ultra            3667-KL                12/01/2020 20:25:54
 
Gaming
3090 FTW3 Gaming             3985                     09/24/2020 16:12:06      
3090 XC3 Gaming               3973                     09/24/2020 00:00:00
3080 Ti XC3 Gaming           3953                     06/30/2021 06:36:46 
3080 FTW3 Gaming            3895                     09/21/2020 09:57:19 
3080 XC3 Gaming               3883                     09/16/2020 11:14:32 
3070 Ti XC3 Gaming           3783                     06/30/2021 06:29:45
3070 XC3 Gaming               3753                    10/29/2020 06:21:40  
3060 Ti FTW3 Gaming         3665                    12/08/2020 18:52:16  
3060 Ti XC3 Gaming           3663-KL               12/02/2020 05:31:19
3060 XC Gaming                3657                     05/13/2021 10:35:38

 
Black
3090 XC3 Black                 3971                     09/24/2020 00:00:00 
3080 XC3 Black                 3881-KL                09/16/2020 16:07:01 
3070 XC3 Black                 3751                     10/29/2020 06:31:11  
3060 XC Black                   3655                     02/25/2021 09:09:15 
 
Hybrid
3090 FTW3 Ultra Hybrid       3988                    12/29/2020 19:39:00 
3090 XC3 Ultra Hybrid         3978                    12/20/2020 05:03:48
3080 Ti FTW3 Ultra Hybrid   3968                     06/03/2021 07:52:39
3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hybrid     3958                     06/03/2021 08:09:49

3080 FTW3 Ultra Hybrid      3898-KL                12/16/2020 09:14:54
3080 XC3 Ultra Hybrid        3888-KL                12/10/2020 09:15:55 
 
Hydro Copper 
3090 FTW 3 Ultra HC          3989                     04/15/2021 10:00:29  
3090 XC3 Ultra HC             3979                     06/23/2021 06:00:09 
3080 Ti FTW3 Ultra HC       3969                     06/03/2021 07:54:47
3080 Ti XC3 Ultra HC          3959                     06/15/2021 10:29:10 
3080 FTW3 Ultra HC           3899                     06/23/2021 06:00:15 
3080 XC3 Ultra HC             3889                     06/23/2021 06:00:09 

K|NGP|N 
K|NGP|N HC (Queue)          3999                    06/15/2021 09:17:29 
K|NGP|N Hybrid (Queue)     3998                    03/09/2021 20:14:50
K|NGP|N HC Kit                  1999                    07/16/2021 11:24:46  

 
May your remaining wait be shorter than you anticipate; it is already longer than you deserve.
 
Best of luck!   twene  

enewt
If I may just ask one last thing of those of us who -- like me -- are negatively impacted by this change (I bought my brother a card from the queue back in the fall of 2020)...the folks at EVGA are trying hard to maximize the opportunity for the greatest number of gamers. Not all of us may agree with this decision, but let’s please not demonize the folks who made it; I am 100% confident that this revision to the rules was made in good faith and in the belief that this will benefit the community at large.

I am sorry to hear that. Even though the rules was made in good faith and in the belief that this will benefit the community at large, it still hurts people. No matter who made the decision to roll out this, I cannot believe they is the people who cares.

toyboarder
Seconded. While this may have sounded like a solid feel-good move in the planning room, it's pointless in practice due to people with multiple accounts and only helps scalpers and people who signed up weeks ago while punishing people who followed the rules and have families. Like, should I have my 13 year old nephew signing up for his own account and skipping school to get in the que? Or maybe my bro who doesn't get paid for time off, have him skip work for the chance at getting in with the site crashing for an hour straight, when I can just sit here in my cushy work chair and click buttons?
 
This was a bad move against the will of the userbase and should be rescinded, and reimplemented with the next round of new cards.

Nothing's stopping you from making an account on your nephew's and bro's behalf and signing up for them as well for the next queues. It's a nice gesture of you to order for them since they cannot, however for most people ordering multiple cards there is simply no way to know they actually have a nephew/neighbor/friend/brother who the card is for, and to limit scalping this had to be done. Surely you understand, even if you don't agree...

McAztec

toyboarder
Seconded. While this may have sounded like a solid feel-good move in the planning room, it's pointless in practice due to people with multiple accounts and only helps scalpers and people who signed up weeks ago while punishing people who followed the rules and have families. Like, should I have my 13 year old nephew signing up for his own account and skipping school to get in the que? Or maybe my bro who doesn't get paid for time off, have him skip work for the chance at getting in with the site crashing for an hour straight, when I can just sit here in my cushy work chair and click buttons?
 
This was a bad move against the will of the userbase and should be rescinded, and reimplemented with the next round of new cards.

Nothing's stopping you from making an account on your nephew's and bro's behalf and signing up for them as well for the next queues. It's a nice gesture of you to order for them since they cannot, however for most people ordering multiple cards there is simply no way to know they actually have a nephew/neighbor/friend/brother who the card is for, and to limit scalping this had to be done. Surely you understand, even if you don't agree...

This does little to limit scalping. The scalpers with 100 accounts already have their number in line. To change the rules in the middle of this is heartbreaking to a lot of people that purchased a low end card to wait it out till they could get the card they wanted. This type of change needed to be implemented on a new launch. Surely you understand, even if you don't agree...

McAztec

toyboarder
Seconded. While this may have sounded like a solid feel-good move in the planning room, it's pointless in practice due to people with multiple accounts and only helps scalpers and people who signed up weeks ago while punishing people who followed the rules and have families. Like, should I have my 13 year old nephew signing up for his own account and skipping school to get in the que? Or maybe my bro who doesn't get paid for time off, have him skip work for the chance at getting in with the site crashing for an hour straight, when I can just sit here in my cushy work chair and click buttons?
 
This was a bad move against the will of the userbase and should be rescinded, and reimplemented with the next round of new cards.

Nothing's stopping you from making an account on your nephew's and bro's behalf and signing up for them as well for the next queues. It's a nice gesture of you to order for them since they cannot, however for most people ordering multiple cards there is simply no way to know they actually have a nephew/neighbor/friend/brother who the card is for, and to limit scalping this had to be done. Surely you understand, even if you don't agree...

The only thing stopping someone, from doing that, is all the queues are closed at the moment.

McAztec
 
 
Nothing's stopping you from making an account on your nephew's and bro's behalf and signing up for them as well for the next queues. It's a nice gesture of you to order for them since they cannot, however for most people ordering multiple cards there is simply no way to know they actually have a nephew/neighbor/friend/brother who the card is for, and to limit scalping this had to be done. Surely you understand, even if you don't agree...

.....which is exactly what I would have done if this had been the policy. Or, if retroactively screwing people over was standard practice of the company (which I mean, it's NOT which is why this is such a shock and has upset so many people). 
 
Just like other people that bought an overpriced $400 3060 would have waited if they'd known they were screwing themselves over on the 3080/3070/whatever else they wanted. Again, this is why standard practice is "Moving forward, the policy will be...".
 
As others have said, I sincerely do not believe this move was done in bad faith. But that does not mean it was the right move.

CptT95
Wow the salt mines are back in full swing again 🤔

At this point I’m a miner too

Zen_Punk

McAztec

toyboarder
Seconded. While this may have sounded like a solid feel-good move in the planning room, it's pointless in practice due to people with multiple accounts and only helps scalpers and people who signed up weeks ago while punishing people who followed the rules and have families. Like, should I have my 13 year old nephew signing up for his own account and skipping school to get in the que? Or maybe my bro who doesn't get paid for time off, have him skip work for the chance at getting in with the site crashing for an hour straight, when I can just sit here in my cushy work chair and click buttons?
 
This was a bad move against the will of the userbase and should be rescinded, and reimplemented with the next round of new cards.

Nothing's stopping you from making an account on your nephew's and bro's behalf and signing up for them as well for the next queues. It's a nice gesture of you to order for them since they cannot, however for most people ordering multiple cards there is simply no way to know they actually have a nephew/neighbor/friend/brother who the card is for, and to limit scalping this had to be done. Surely you understand, even if you don't agree...

The only thing stopping someone, from doing that, is all the queues are closed at the moment.

 Yes, I am aware, I did mention "for the next queues" for that exact reason, I meant for the 30xx-super-s and the 40xx-s and moving forward.

McAztec


Nothing's stopping you from making an account on your nephew's and bro's behalf and signing up for them as well for the next queues. It's a nice gesture of you to order for them since they cannot, however for most people ordering multiple cards there is simply no way to know they actually have a nephew/neighbor/friend/brother who the card is for, and to limit scalping this had to be done. Surely you understand, even if you don't agree...

How about ethics and a sense of fair play?  This change hoses the people who made notifies on their ONE REAL ACCOUNT and didn't try to cheat the system by registering a bunch of fakes.  We are not stupid, we knew that was going on but didn't do it.

kevinc313
 
 
How about ethics and a sense of fair play?  This change hoses the people who made notifies on their ONE REAL ACCOUNT and didn't try to cheat the system by registering a bunch of fakes.  We are not stupid, we knew that was going on but didn't do it.

exactly, i purchase for my whole family, i guess i should have signed them all up. 

edit: messed the quote up
 
Edit by Cool GTX quote fixed

kevinc313This a truly a windfall for the scalpers who registered a hundred accounts.

Not even accounts, just emails! They will make account later.
EVGA should not allow subscribe for notification email that does not have account already!