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2024/10/27 00:21:39 (permalink)
Hello. I was gifted a 3080ti Hydro Copper for free and after about 6 months it started leaking. Is there a solution to modifying this card to be water-cooled? I was looking at a couple options but haven't found a perfect solution.

Would this be possible?


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Re: EVGA 3080ti Hydro Copper leaking 2024/10/27 08:15:46 (permalink)
Sorry... Not modify it to being water cooled... Modify it to being air cooled.
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Re: EVGA 3080ti Hydro Copper leaking 2024/10/27 09:24:12 (permalink)
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Sorry... Not modify it to being water cooled... Modify it to being air cooled.



 
YES you can
 
To convert the card to Air cooling or AIO cooling you'll need a compatible cooler; finding the Parts is the hard part.
 
What specific Card do you have?  ---> XC or FTW3 version & EVGA Part Number would help
 
EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti XC3 ULTRA HYDRO COPPER GAMING
 
EVGA - Product Specs - EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti FTW3 ULTRA HYDRO COPPER
 
 
older thread with 10 series card, just an example of what can be done Kraken G12 Install on 1080 Ti Fe with pictures
 
 

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Re: EVGA 3080ti Hydro Copper leaking 2024/10/27 10:53:36 (permalink)
I have the second version that you listed

EVGA - Product Specs - EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti FTW3 ULTRA HYDRO COPPER

Sadly I can't find the part number at the moment. The box doesn't say ultra though.

On the box "EVGA FTW3 HYDRO COPPER GEFORCE RTX 3080Ti 12G. GDDR6X"
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Re: EVGA 3080ti Hydro Copper leaking 2024/10/27 10:56:05 (permalink)
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Re: EVGA 3080ti Hydro Copper leaking 2024/10/27 11:04:47 (permalink)
You would need to look for a "dead" / used FTW3 3080Ti to buy for the air cooler & misc. parts to convert your hydro to air cooled


Sometimes you find on auction sites, people selling their old air coolers - if they put an aftermarket water block on their card


FAQ # 59822  What are the thermal pad sizes for my 20 or 30 series graphics card?
 
 
Or an aftermarket air cooler
 
 
EVGA - does NOT sell the cooler or individual parts
 
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Re: EVGA 3080ti Hydro Copper leaking 2024/10/27 14:21:34 (permalink)
Would something like the "RAIJINTEK MORPHEUS II CORE EDITION - Superior High-End VGA Cooler" work?

Thanks for the suggestion. I'll start digging into the web to see what I can find.
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Re: EVGA 3080ti Hydro Copper leaking 2024/10/28 07:10:13 (permalink)
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Would something like the "RAIJINTEK MORPHEUS II CORE EDITION - Superior High-End VGA Cooler" work?

Thanks for the suggestion. I'll start digging into the web to see what I can find.



The GPU die size changed with every new series 10, 20, 30, 40 GPU .... so, make sure your aftermarket cooler lists your card
 
Remember the FTW3 is  a much bigger Card (taller, from PCIe slot) & you'll need to cool any part that has a thermal pad on it.  Seems some after market air coolers only cover the die
 
Options exist in the aftermarket - if you can find one ... look for air cooler or AIO adapter made to fit your GPU
 
(No idea if any of the below examples Fit Your GPU)
 
https://www.pcgamer.com/raijintek-morpheus-8057/
 
https://www.raijintek.com...tail.php?ProductID=137
 
 
EVGA forum thread, just to give you a look at what this takes --->Kraken G12 Install on 1080 Ti Fe with pictures
 
 
people have used adapters like this before (make sure to read the details & that it fits Your GPU)
 
The bracket kit ~ $80 & you need to buy the AIO

 
NZXT KRAKEN G12 - GPU Mounting Kit for Kraken X Series AIO - Enhanced GPU Cooling - AMD and NVIDIA GPU Compatibility - Active Cooling for VRM - Black
https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?d=nzxt+gpu+bracket

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Re: EVGA 3080ti Hydro Copper leaking 2024/10/28 07:15:57 (permalink)
You could also just buy an after market water block, it seems you already have a custom loop - from your first post
 
this option might be the cheapest & easiest

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Re: EVGA 3080ti Hydro Copper leaking 2024/10/28 08:43:15 (permalink)
Not a bad call. This graphics card either wasn't stored right or was had corrosion build up from the original user, so I had to take it apart and clean the internals. Weird thing is that it didn't start leaking for 5 months or so.

Thanks for the suggestions, I'll see if I can keep the solution updated because I haven't seen too many posts on this situation.
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Re: EVGA 3080ti Hydro Copper leaking 2024/10/28 12:37:18 (permalink)
I saw on another post that you responded to about this topic about using aluminum within the loop with this graphics card will not be good... is that what i might be running into with the issue with corrosion? 
 
I use to work on aircraft in the navy and i understand the science behind corrosion... so im slapping my forehead at the moment, but also have to look into the components to see what they are made out of.
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Re: EVGA 3080ti Hydro Copper leaking 2024/10/28 14:51:46 (permalink)
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I saw on another post that you responded to about this topic about using aluminum within the loop with this graphics card will not be good... is that what i might be running into with the issue with corrosion? 
 
I use to work on aircraft in the navy and i understand the science behind corrosion... so im slapping my forehead at the moment, but also have to look into the components to see what they are made out of.




You never mix aluminum water cooler parts with non aluminum parts .... galvanic corrosion
 
There is even strong evidence that using silver with a typical nickel plated water block is Bad news ... EK water blocks Says do Not use silver
 
See my thread: Ready to try water cooling. Where to start? Library of links-basics to expert
 
 
LINK8-A
http://www.overclockers.com/pc-water-coolant-chemistry-part-i/
 
LINK8-B
http://www.overclockers.com/pc-water-coolant-chemistry-part-ii/

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Re: EVGA 3080ti Hydro Copper leaking 2024/10/28 16:05:07 (permalink)
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256804614143237.html?spm=a2g0n.productlist.0.0.6de53268vbQ4Pa&browser_id=3b0ebc13e7d3468ca8411a12b54b4d88&aff_platform=msite&m_page_id=jmmhiarcassqbljf192d555f510100f141c61db07d&gclid=&pdp_npi=4%40dis%21USD%2173.67%2166.67%21%21%2173.67%2166.67%21%402101c59817301560332801738e2e91%2112000033092490348%21sea%21US%216175107551%21ABX&algo_pvid=21e5fc63-5264-4573-a8d8-2adf296da3ce

What do you think about this option?
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Re: EVGA 3080ti Hydro Copper leaking 2024/10/29 04:23:15 (permalink)
looks like it might work .... no idea if it is used or a factory reject, why they have one to sell
 
I've never bought from that site; so, no experiences to share
 
does it mention that it does not come with hardware?   You'll need the 4 spring screws that are not used with a water block, I'm not sure if your setup has screws that work with a "stock" cooler"

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Re: EVGA 3080ti Hydro Copper leaking 2024/10/29 06:52:49 (permalink)
Yeah... The site is what is holding me back as well. Good call on the hardware, but I'm sure I could source them out somewhere. From what it looks like it is pretty reliable but there can be scams, just have to be careful.

I contacted EVGA to see if they have any solutions too but impatience is my tormentor right now. I'll see what they say and then probably try this out. As much as I want to keep it in my water loop, I'm not really interested in having more corrosion issues.
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Re: EVGA 3080ti Hydro Copper leaking 2024/10/29 15:06:34 (permalink)
Did you email EVGA Support at Support@EVGA.com

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Re: EVGA 3080ti Hydro Copper leaking 2024/10/29 16:01:55 (permalink)
I put in a ticket through their website. I also registered my card... Although I got a automated reply asking me to upload a receipt for the unit which I don't have because it was a gift. I was going to give it a few days.
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Re: EVGA 3080ti Hydro Copper leaking 2024/10/29 18:02:33 (permalink)
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I put in a ticket through their website. I also registered my card... Although I got a automated reply asking me to upload a receipt for the unit which I don't have because it was a gift. I was going to give it a few days.


You need to look at the link below
For more warranty information about second-hand purchases, please see EVGA FAQ

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Re: EVGA 3080ti Hydro Copper leaking 2024/10/29 20:05:11 (permalink)
Ahh nice. Well, all I have is a box with a graphics card in its original box, lol. Maybe the discord conversation would work. But I'm not looking for anything free. It's been out of warranty for quite some time and I opened it up to fix corrosion, so doubly out of warranty. I just want to see if they have the part and I would buy it from them if they had the solution. This would make it so I know everything is legit.

You have been a tremendous help, I really appreciate it.
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Re: EVGA 3080ti Hydro Copper leaking 2024/10/30 06:43:39 (permalink)
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Ahh nice. Well, all I have is a box with a graphics card in its original box, lol. Maybe the discord conversation would work. But I'm not looking for anything free. It's been out of warranty for quite some time and I opened it up to fix corrosion, so doubly out of warranty. I just want to see if they have the part and I would buy it from them if they had the solution. This would make it so I know everything is legit.

You have been a tremendous help, I really appreciate it.



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Re: EVGA 3080ti Hydro Copper leaking 2024/10/30 09:04:12 (permalink)
https://ibb.co/z70Jt89 not sure if this link works well.
Looks like this is the only thing that I will be missing, the thing with the spring screws you were talking about. The disassembly of the 3080 Ti Ultra is sooooooooo much easier than the Hydro Copper! I also need some 2.5 Thermal tape. Cant really see any other differences in the design. 
 
 
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Re: EVGA 3080ti Hydro Copper leaking 2024/10/31 08:06:30 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby MidgetMania 2024/10/31 11:15:03
fixed that photo for you
 
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Re: EVGA 3080ti Hydro Copper leaking 2024/10/31 21:15:22 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby MidgetMania 2024/11/01 06:53:43
 
Thermal pads:
 
Thickness & hardness (compress ability) -- is critical
 
The heatsink Must make contact with the GPU die, thermal paste Must cover the entire GPU die.
 
Unlike the CPU, that is NOT a heat spreader on the GPU, that is the actual die (chip)
 
You must keep the heatsink flat/level with the GPU die & not let it get crooked as you want full contact.
 
Hard pads will not let the GPU make contact, they will not compress
 
Thick pads ... prevent contact
 
Thin pads will never get contact or any compression & will not transfer heat. 
 
The best testing it a trial assembly to make sure contact is being made.
 
(ANSWER to) - What are the thermal pad sizes for my 30 series graphics card?

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Re: EVGA 3080ti Hydro Copper leaking 2024/11/01 00:47:32 (permalink)
Awesome. I'll dig into the research. Benefit of ordering from Alibaba is that I have time to figure out a strategy before the parts come 😂🤞
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Re: EVGA 3080ti Hydro Copper leaking 2024/11/01 07:03:43 (permalink)
3080/3080Ti
Cooler:
Width: 6.5mm Length: 7.7mm Thickness: 2.75mm QTY: 1
Width: 14mm Length: 53mm Thickness: 2.25mm QTY: 2
Width: 14mm Length: 37.5mm Thickness: 2.25mm QTY: 1
Width: 12mm Length: 15mm Thickness: 2.25mm QTY: 1
Width: 5mm Length: 110mm Thickness: 2.5mm QTY: 1

Here are the specs that I see for the 3080 Ti FTW3 Ultra. I'm curious if someone could explain what is what. I'll try to post a picture of the board so that we have a reference to # the parts.

(it'll be on the next post because my phone doesn't like this page much.)
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Re: EVGA 3080ti Hydro Copper leaking 2024/11/01 07:09:36 (permalink)
Front View

Back View

 
Now, it doesn't say anything about a back plate on the 3080 Ti FTW3 Ultra, but it does mention it in the 3090 Ti FTW3 Ultra.
 
Would it be overkill to place thermal protection on this back plate? 
 
Another thought going through my head would be if there is a specific thermal paste we are using on the GPU itself, or standard Thermal paste will do?
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Re: EVGA 3080ti Hydro Copper leaking 2024/11/01 07:39:20 (permalink)
I'm sure once I get this metal heat sink off the board from the hydro build I'll see what needs to be covered, but for now just getting the ideas.

The metal heat sink is a bit tough to remove. I am thinking that a little warmth could assist me in removing it. I don't want to put too much pressure on the board for fear of breaking it. So I'm taking my time and again, thinking it out.
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Re: EVGA 3080ti Hydro Copper leaking 2024/11/01 10:04:10 (permalink)
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I'm sure once I get this metal heat sink off the board from the hydro build I'll see what needs to be covered, but for now just getting the ideas.

The metal heat sink is a bit tough to remove. I am thinking that a little warmth could assist me in removing it. I don't want to put too much pressure on the board for fear of breaking it. So I'm taking my time and again, thinking it out.

 
wrap that hydro card in a heating pad for about 2 - 3 hours
 
there are other ways, but the heating pad should never get warm enough to cause any issues. 
 
Never use an oven that is used for Food, think heavy metals & other nasty stuff
 
This should give you a better idea of what is involved EVGA GeForce RTX 3090/3080 FTW3 HYBRID Kit Installation Guide
 
 

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Re: EVGA 3080ti Hydro Copper leaking 2024/11/01 10:07:36 (permalink)
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3080/3080Ti
Cooler:
Width: 6.5mm Length: 7.7mm Thickness: 2.75mm QTY: 1
Width: 14mm Length: 53mm Thickness: 2.25mm QTY: 2
Width: 14mm Length: 37.5mm Thickness: 2.25mm QTY: 1
Width: 12mm Length: 15mm Thickness: 2.25mm QTY: 1
Width: 5mm Length: 110mm Thickness: 2.5mm QTY: 1

Here are the specs that I see for the 3080 Ti FTW3 Ultra. I'm curious if someone could explain what is what. I'll try to post a picture of the board so that we have a reference to # the parts.

(it'll be on the next post because my phone doesn't like this page much.)

correct
 
Look up (web search) a few 3080Ti FTW3 reviews, some show the card disassembled
 
these have a removed air cooler
https://forums.evga.com/FindPost/3587546
 
https://forums.evga.com/FindPost/3508498
 
 
 

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Re: EVGA 3080ti Hydro Copper leaking 2024/11/01 10:28:53 (permalink)
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Front View

Back View

 
Now, it doesn't say anything about a back plate on the 3080 Ti FTW3 Ultra, but it does mention it in the 3090 Ti FTW3 Ultra.
 
Would it be overkill to place thermal protection on this back plate? 
 
Another thought going through my head would be if there is a specific thermal paste we are using on the GPU itself, or standard Thermal paste will do?




Look over these threads:


PRO-TIP Converting your card to a Hybrid? Reuse the thermal pads on backplate lower temps 
 
Honeywell PTM7950 is proven best, hard to find genuine product & not as cheap as paste
Looks like my 4090 is already getting bad after only a year. =\

check this post from link above: https://forums.evga.com/FindPost/3624045

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