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2016/08/17 08:17:53 (permalink)
 
You will have to do your homework, if you want to water cool with a semi-custom or custom loop.
 
(Below are some useful links, they are in no particular order)
 
What case gives you the room you'll need, size of Radiator(s) that fit, how to test, how to maintain the loop.
 
For your reading pleasure: help you understand your options & limits


                                       


 
LINK1
http://www.overclock.net/t/226970/updated-water-cooling-essential-threads
 
LINK2
http://www.xtremerigs.net/2014/01/20/first-watercooling-loop/
 
LINK3-A
http://www.overclockers.c...s-guide-water-cooling/
 
LINK3-B
http://www.overclock.net/t/766479/watercooling-guide-for-beginner
 
LINK4
http://www.overclock.net/...my-pump-handle-a-guide
 
LINK5
http://www.xtremerigs.net/2015/02/11/radiator-round-2015/5/
 
LINK6
http://www.xtremerigs.net...er-cooling/pumps-tops/
 
LINK7-A
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/a-beginners-guide-for-watercooling-your-pc,1573.html
 
LINK7-B
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/277130-29-read-first-watercooling-sticky
 
LINK8-A
http://www.overclockers.com/pc-water-coolant-chemistry-part-i/
 
LINK8-B
http://www.overclockers.com/pc-water-coolant-chemistry-part-ii/
 
LINK9
http://forums.extremeoverclocking.com/showthread.php?t=354844
 
LINK10
http://www.overclock.net/t/1500007/best-way-to-clean-radiators
 
LINK11
http://www.overclock.net/t/1534282/how-to-correctly-leak-test-your-loop-101
 
LINK12
http://thermalbench.com/category/fans/
 
LINK13
https://www.ekwb.com/guides/
 
LINK14
https://www.ekwb.com/solutions/
 
Guides:
 
 gamersnexus -  Hard Tube Bending Tutorial for Open Loop Liquid Cooling
 
primochill -  Choosing the right Tubing
 
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Re: So, your ready to try water cooling. Where to start. Library of links to good informa 2016/08/17 11:25:24 (permalink)
I think this belongs here too. This topic is about bending your hard pipes. Makes it look nice, but takes loads thinking and doing. Might not be the best choice for starters (but who am i to deny? Go for it.). Also, i used paper to calculate my circulation; which fittings and where. Good luck all who is about to do some watercooling, its really nice 
 
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Re: So, your ready to try water cooling. Where to start. Library of links to good informa 2016/08/23 01:11:19 (permalink)
GTX, very cool thread you made. Definitely a place, like me, to come and look up information on watercooling.
 
Your title, though, reminds me of this (lol) :
 

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Re: So, your ready to try water cooling. Where to start. Library of links to good informa 2016/08/23 09:53:39 (permalink)
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GTX, very cool thread you made. Definitely a place, like me, to come and look up information on watercooling.
 
Your title, though, reminds me of this (lol) :
 


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Re: So, your ready to try water cooling. Where to start. Library of links to good informa 2016/08/25 23:53:14 (permalink)
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Re: So, your ready to try water cooling. Where to start. Library of links to good informa 2016/08/26 09:27:26 (permalink)
This is great. I spent a very large amount of time bringing my dual 980 hydrocopper rig online. 2 radiators, and 6 fans keeps the cpu and ambient water temps at a steady 45c to 48c 
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Re: So, your ready to try water cooling. Where to start. Library of links to good informa 2016/08/26 09:32:17 (permalink)
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Mods should make this a sticky.




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Re: Ready to try water cooling. Where to start? Library of links-basics to expert 2017/06/26 18:14:35 (permalink)
Thank you, this is great and very helpful, I will be linking this to my buddies.
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Re: Ready to try water cooling. Where to start? Library of links-basics to expert 2017/06/26 20:14:57 (permalink)
Glad you found it helpful

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Re: Ready to try water cooling. Where to start? Library of links-basics to expert 2017/06/26 22:36:20 (permalink)
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Thank you, this is great and very helpful, I will be linking this to my buddies.




 

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Re: Ready to try water cooling. Where to start? Library of links-basics to expert 2017/06/27 01:34:48 (permalink)
Very good read and something I recommend for anyone who hasn't built a water cooled system before or hasn't done a build in a couple years.

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Re: Ready to try water cooling. Where to start? Library of links-basics to expert 2017/07/05 13:40:26 (permalink)
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Re: Ready to try water cooling. Where to start? Library of links-basics to expert 2017/07/09 00:37:49 (permalink)
Very helpful. 
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Re: Ready to try water cooling. Where to start? Library of links-basics to expert 2017/07/10 17:23:36 (permalink)
I will be building a custom watercooled pc very  soon, still seems like a daunting task
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Re: Ready to try water cooling. Where to start? Library of links-basics to expert 2017/07/29 01:28:58 (permalink)
Still kinda nervous but thanks 
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Re: Ready to try water cooling. Where to start? Library of links-basics to expert 2018/01/26 18:52:49 (permalink)
water cooling sysytems look cool 
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Re: Ready to try water cooling. Where to start? Library of links-basics to expert 2018/01/28 08:31:01 (permalink)
Anything that's not closed-loop scares me. Lots of good info in this thread. Might just make the leap in the water cooling
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Re: Ready to try water cooling. Where to start? Library of links-basics to expert 2018/01/28 14:09:14 (permalink)
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Re: Ready to try water cooling. Where to start? Library of links-basics to expert 2018/01/29 12:07:37 (permalink)
is watercooling an fx 6300 worth it? or should i stick with stock block.
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Re: Ready to try water cooling. Where to start? Library of links-basics to expert 2018/01/30 11:03:04 (permalink)

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Re: Ready to try water cooling. Where to start? Library of links-basics to expert 2018/02/13 19:19:44 (permalink)
Great post and info, one thing that I think would be extremely beneficial to new users is getting a Dr. Drop kit so they dont have to cross their fingers and test with coolant for 24hrs, that just seems insane to me.  It could save them a lot time, and a whole lot of trouble.  Just like flushing your rads, doing a pressure test of your components before putting coolant in them.  The pressure tester can let you know of things you might not always be able to see, such as bad O-Rings or a manufacturing defect.  This unit has saved me many times and I am not joking when I say that.  Hope this helps. 
https://shop.aquacomputer.de/product_info.php?language=en&products_id=3415
 

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Re: Ready to try water cooling. Where to start? Library of links-basics to expert 2018/02/14 19:23:02 (permalink)
There are different ways to test for leaks -- the one you listed is one of them -- I'm suspect about the 1 hr test telling you much about small leaks
 
Very small leaks - or if something comes loose - are what you find with an extended test by pressurizing the loop with your pump.
 
Because water / coolant is Not compressible it "could" still be an issue if you only use air pressure.
 
Leak-down tests such as the one you listed are better than nothing -- but not as good as running the loop
 
Remember a proper leak test --ONLY powers the pump -- No power to anything else
 
If loop does leak you do not want to have an electric short that kill your MB, CPU,RAM, GPU, PSU, or other things in your build
 
Remember---> everyone has leaks for time to time
 
AS you gain experience; you may be comfortable with shorter leak tests -- the risk is yours to take

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Re: Ready to try water cooling. Where to start? Library of links-basics to expert 2018/02/14 20:21:40 (permalink)
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There are different ways to test for leaks -- the one you listed is one of them -- I'm suspect about the 1 hr test telling you much about small leaks
 
Very small leaks - or if something comes loose - are what you find with an extended test by pressurizing the loop with your pump.
 
Because water / coolant is Not compressible it "could" still be an issue if you only use air pressure.
 
Leak-down tests such as the one you listed are better than nothing -- but not as good as running the loop
 
Remember a proper leak test --ONLY powers the pump -- No power to anything else
 
If loop does leak you do not want to have an electric short that kill your MB, CPU,RAM, GPU, PSU, or other things in your build
 
Remember---> everyone has leaks for time to time
 
AS you gain experience; you may be comfortable with shorter leak tests -- the risk is yours to take


Sure thing, great info, yeah having a spare small PSU to run the pump or using a 24 Pin ATX bridge tool .  Never want to do a leak test with everything powered on.  I still will stand by this tool since it can save an individual a lot of trouble.  If something is airtight it is watertight.  
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Re: Ready to try water cooling. Where to start? Library of links-basics to expert 2018/02/15 12:31:59 (permalink)
I tried to be specific, so if anyone New to Water Cooled reads this ....... just running the bases
 
My industrial experience for leak-down testing is usually >30 psig for 12 hours ....
 
I'll admit I've never tried the product you listed or any competitors product
 
What brand / part number are those Quick Disconnects (QD) fittings pictured in your Mods Rigs page ?

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Re: Ready to try water cooling. Where to start? Library of links-basics to expert 2018/02/15 12:40:11 (permalink)
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I tried to be specific, so if anyone New to Water Cooled reads this ....... just running the bases
 
My industrial experience for leak-down testing is usually >30 psig for 12 hours ....
 
I'll admit I've never tried the product you listed or any competitors product
 
What brand / part number are those Quick Disconnects (QD) fittings pictured in your Mods Rigs page ?


The QDC's I use are CPC Male (NS4D22006), Female (NS4D17006), these are the QDC's that EK sells them and they only cost $18.22 which is a steal if you ask me, yes you get the whole QDC and not this of having to buy two pieces to get one QDC.  These have a 10mm barb for tubing.  I would not use the EZ-Nylon clamps they come with though, they are absolute junk.  They are a plastic clamp and even tightening them with "Soft Jaw Plastic Pliers" tears them up.  You can use this clamps, I helped setup my friends loop with them, you just have to tighten them to 2x Audible clicks of the clamp and no more or you will scrape the plastic on them.  If you get these QDC's  I would recommend the Bitspower (Bitspower Luxury Clamp For 5/8" OD Tube).  These are 100 times better because they are metal and you get to tighten them via an Allen key so its very easy and wont get damaged.  These are plastic QDC's and are well built and of excellent quality, they are also very chemically resistant, so your home brew or pre-mix coolants would be safe, you can check there chemical data sheet to know for sure. I tried the full metal ones in the past and they are giant and can be difficult to install in tight spaces, plus they require most of the time 2x compression fittings which makes them to large in smaller cases.  Also when you disconnect these QDC's there is not giant gush of liquid or spill, usual just a few drops inside the QDC's so they are very safe. 
 
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https://www.ekwb.com/shop/ek-qdc-10mm-gray
 
As for the Dr.Drop I recommend you try it out some day or you can make your own, all credit goes to B Negative at Overclock.net, his post was the one that got me interested in this alternative.
http://www.overclock.net/forum/61-water-cooling/1534282-how-correctly-leak-test-your-loop-101-a.html 
 
 
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Re: Ready to try water cooling. Where to start? Library of links-basics to expert 2018/04/27 02:36:46 (permalink)
I have one noob question.
Where is better to install drain valve.
On Inlet or Outlet Port.
 
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2. Inlet will be closed with Plug or Male to Male Rotary - Drain Valve - Plug.

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Re: Ready to try water cooling. Where to start? Library of links-basics to expert 2018/04/30 14:22:14 (permalink)
Place the drain at the lowest point of your system, with easy access
 
You should Never run the pump dry as water cools and lubricates the pump
 
I prefer the line leading back to the pump or the lowest radiator in the rig

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Re: Ready to try water cooling. Where to start? Library of links-basics to expert 2018/11/01 16:55:45 (permalink)
still like the Vertical orientation a little better. Horizontal one and like if it was mounted is the fill port stuff. does it matter much no...no  don't worry about the drain, leave ya some more slack with hoses and just pull it out and dump it from the cap man and jump it lol

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Re: Ready to try water cooling. Where to start? Library of links-basics to expert 2018/12/13 06:04:08 (permalink)
Is there really a need to go to watercooling if you delid and go liquid metal?
Maybe not as much fun / expensive / cool-lookin' ...
My cpu (admittedly old but kinda why I'm asking/posting) gets unstable before any thermal issues arise.
(with a joke of air cooling / stock-ish intentionally just to see)

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Re: Ready to try water cooling. Where to start? Library of links-basics to expert 2018/12/13 07:58:51 (permalink)
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Is there really a need to go to watercooling if you delid and go liquid metal?
Maybe not as much fun / expensive / cool-lookin' ...
My cpu (admittedly old but kinda why I'm asking/posting) gets unstable before any thermal issues arise.
(with a joke of air cooling / stock-ish intentionally just to see)


Many good AIO coolers that are better than any Air coolers for someone who does not want a to do a custom loop
 
Water is much better than air to move the thermal load from source to discharge point.  With the radiator dumping the heat outside of the case it is effective.
 
Most users also like the fact that they can dial back on the fan RPM for a quieter experience with liquid cooled system

RTX Project EVGA X99 FTWK-5930K@4.8GHz 2xEVGA2080Ti EVGA-1200P2  Nibbler EVGA X99 Classified-5960X@4.5GHz 3-GPU Water Loop 1600P2 
AIO Folding  X99 2x1080Ti FTW3 Hybrid, 1200P
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