bigredx86
So because I bought a card for 2 friends that couldn't find a 3080ti Hydro or a 3060XC easily, I am punished and won't get the Kingpin I've been waiting for?  ****?  Like this  kind of makes sense if it was for the 3080 and 3070, like the most desired queues but this kind of blows now, :(.

You're friends could've joined the queue just as easily as the rest of us. 

Communism is going to be awesome! Good luck kids....

djwarreng
Just out of curiousity...will my queue position be affected for my x570 amd motherboard if I already purchased a 30 series graphics card?
that would be a real bummer

No. Per its express language, it is limited to 30 series queue purchases.  You should be fine.

deckes87

bigredx86
So because I bought a card for 2 friends that couldn't find a 3080ti Hydro or a 3060XC easily, I am punished and won't get the Kingpin I've been waiting for?  ****?  Like this  kind of makes sense if it was for the 3080 and 3070, like the most desired queues but this kind of blows now, :(.

You're friends could've joined the queue just as easily as the rest of us. 

Interesting, neither have bought EVGA products before, nor knew about the queue, so didn't have elite for the 24hr window and if you don't get in at that time you simply don't get a card when the queue goes public.  So false, they didn't have the same easily accessibility as you wrongly assume.
 
I didn't know we had a single queue martyr on our hands.

nick_shl

deckes87How would you suggest the queue be handled if you think they could've done it better to help people in my cartegory out?

You probably can change rules during game. But if this change affects your previous moves - it is not seems as fair game anymore. If they will not count previous purchases then it totally ok.

If they don't count previous 30** purchases then there isn't really a point, it wouldn't really affect anything. Nobody likes rationing, but that's exactly what this is. If you (or an email address account associated with you) has received a card, EVGA thinks its right to give someone else who has been waiting (almost a year) a chance to purchase. I'll get my one card, all I want and all I need, and be dropped off the queue, the rest of my notifies will be void, not that I was going to do anything with them anyway. The next person on the list may be a scalper, may be someone waiting like me. But EVGA has no way to determine everyone in the "well I bought a 3060 for my cousin/brother/friend" camp were not also scalpers. 

wardvader

nick_shl
If they will not count previous purchases then it totally ok.

This

Yeah I actually agree with this.

deckes87

bigredx86
So because I bought a card for 2 friends that couldn't find a 3080ti Hydro or a 3060XC easily, I am punished and won't get the Kingpin I've been waiting for?  ****?  Like this  kind of makes sense if it was for the 3080 and 3070, like the most desired queues but this kind of blows now, :(.

You're friends could've joined the queue just as easily as the rest of us. 

Wrong. unquestionably, inarguably wrong. There are a lot of people who's work schedules or life situations will not allow them to get on a computer at the exact time that a queue was launching to be able to get a card. So if my wife or father-in-law for example wanted a card but couldn't get on EVGA's site to queue because of their work or life circumstances that get in the way, but I could queue for them, I would then be punished for helping people. Currently, I have only bought one 30-series card, and that's all I planned on buying anyway, but I know there are other people in my shoes that did buy their family members or friends a card through their account because the other person couldn't get into the queue for hours/days after the launch time and that meant months-to-year+ of waiting. There are also people who have families that game together. So if you, your wife, and a kid(s) all game and needed new graphics cards, well, sorry, one per household even if you did make yourself available at launch for multiple SKUs and fought the bots and the crashing website for hours to get in. And no, they can't get their own account and join the queue because the address is checked. 
 
What I do understand is that this change both benefits and hurts different people, just like the original system both benefited and hurt different people. What I don't like is changing it in the middle. What I like even less is people saying 'well anybody can "queue just as easily as the rest of us." I am fortunate enough to have a work schedule that has allowed me to be on a computer during launch times, as well as visit the forums between tasks and help people here and there when I can. Not everybody has that.
 
At the end of the day, and I've said this before but, no matter what they do it will benefit some and hurt others. I also really don't like that they did a poll, had a clearly one-sided outcome, and then ignored it. They basically just said to us "we're going to do this thing anyway. We want you to think we care what your opinion is, so please write your opinion here, but we're going to ignore it and do this thing anyway. maybe we'll get lucky and you'll have the opinion that we should do the thing we're going to do regardless of your opinion (this did not happen)." Why would they do that?

Hate to say it but if you bought a card/cards for your friend/family and now you will have to wait for god knows how long.
 
"No good deed goes unpunished"
 
Hope you can find a card on Newegg, Bestbuy or somewhere else quickly and at MSRP.

It's a great Monday Morning.  JacobF enters the Forum.  Drops a post and exits.
 
I can see him walking back down the hallway to his office muttering, "Well that went well."
 
Meanwhile, the forum is in a sulfureous fire consuming all who enter....
 
I guess after recovering from my auto repairs this summer, I can stop focusing on 8 Feb 21 time stamp approaching too fast.  it doesn't matter anymore.  

B0baganoosh

deckes87

bigredx86
So because I bought a card for 2 friends that couldn't find a 3080ti Hydro or a 3060XC easily, I am punished and won't get the Kingpin I've been waiting for?  ****?  Like this  kind of makes sense if it was for the 3080 and 3070, like the most desired queues but this kind of blows now, :(.

You're friends could've joined the queue just as easily as the rest of us. 

Wrong. unquestionably, inarguably wrong. There are a lot of people who's work schedules or life situations will not allow them to get on a computer at the exact time that a queue was launching to be able to get a card. So if my wife or father-in-law for example wanted a card but couldn't get on EVGA's site to queue because of their work or life circumstances that get in the way, but I could queue for them, I would then be punished for helping people. Currently, I have only bought one 30-series card, and that's all I planned on buying anyway, but I know there are other people in my shoes that did buy their family members or friends a card through their account because the other person couldn't get into the queue for hours/days after the launch time and that meant months-to-year+ of waiting. There are also people who have families that game together. So if you, your wife, and a kid(s) all game and needed new graphics cards, well, sorry, one per household even if you did make yourself available at launch for multiple SKUs and fought the bots and the crashing website for hours to get in. And no, they can't get their own account and join the queue because the address is checked. 
 
What I do understand is that this change both benefits and hurts different people, just like the original system both benefited and hurt different people. What I don't like is changing it in the middle. What I like even less is people saying 'well anybody can "queue just as easily as the rest of us." I am fortunate enough to have a work schedule that has allowed me to be on a computer during launch times, as well as visit the forums between tasks and help people here and there when I can. Not everybody has that.
 
At the end of the day, and I've said this before but, no matter what they do it will benefit some and hurt others. I also really don't like that they did a poll, had a clearly one-sided outcome, and then ignored it. They basically just said to us "we're going to do this thing anyway. We want you to think we care what your opinion is, so please write your opinion here, but we're going to ignore it and do this thing anyway. maybe we'll get lucky and you'll have the opinion that we should do the thing we're going to do regardless of your opinion (this did not happen)." Why would they do that?

 
You have just described me. I did not get the advance as the Elite members did. I did not even get in on the day of the public launch, maybe because of working, honestly it was so long ago I do not remember. So I stand by my statement that they could have joined the queue just like the rest of us (non-Elite, working stiffs). I do see your POV about the polling however, and ignoring it. 

deckes87

drewski989

deckes87

drewski989
Yep, instead of being able to help friends and family get cards through my queue spots, we can lose cards to the people out there with multiple accounts looking to scalp them.  I know EVGA is trying to do the right thing here, but this somehow seems to be flawed.
 
Oh well, cest la vie, maybe enewt can finally get his well-deserved KP HC...  But that will probably go to someone who found out about EVGA in June. 

Or your friends and family could join the queue as well. This makes the most sense for the most people. As someone who has been in several 3080 queues since last fall, I can't believe people have been getting multiple cards before I've gotten one. How exactly is EVGA supposed to determine that you didn't just scalp it? I for one think this move is long past overdue.

As I said before, there's been plenty of chance to read the writing on the wall.  I don't want to get political here, but this is completely typical, we are "fair" to the people who cannot be bothered, and punish the ones that try the hardest.  The fatal flaw in this new system is the scalpers and profiteers obviously have multiple accounts, and you aren't hurting them, in fact, EVGA just cut out a large part of their competition...  Those of us who learned the system and tried our best to defeat the bots, scalpers, and miners the best we could under the rules we were given.  Now that's all changed.
 
To be frank, it was your decision to queue for X number of SKUs last October and not continue to sign up for new SKUs as they appeared.  While I do not mind the idea of EVGA helping people in your category out, I do not like the way it doesn't solve the major issues here.  It's OK I suppose...  Let's throw out years of loyal customers for everybody's Elite and now doesn't even matter the effort you put in on the customer end, unless that effort was to create multiple accounts. 

You're right the scalpers with multiple accounts will likely benefit. But how does EVGA (or anyone for that matter) now that what you say "I bought a card for family/friends" you didn't just scalp it on eBay? And not just you, but everyone that says well I bought a 30** for so and so. You're right I could've signed up for more queues as they became available...3080Ti, 3060 ect. I put in for the 3080 queues of the cards I most desired, I don't want a Ti for $1400 or a 3090 for $2,000. I want a 3080 for 800-900. I am not a build a computer every year time of person, just because a new tech comes out. No I'll make it work as long as I can continue to play the games I enjoy playing. And I'll overclock to stretch it if I need to. Again, this will likely help get cards into the most hands of the most people. 
 
How would you suggest the queue be handled if you think they could've done it better to help people in my cartegory out?

There is no easy answer.  But cheaters are gonna cheat...  Now people in my category trying to offset the scammers by distributing cards to family and friends, we are handcuffed.  Maybe I am the minority here, but I have gotten approximately 10 cards from the queue, and they have gone to actual people who game with them, plus my own card. 
 
I am building a second system and now I am SOL on my 3080TI.  I followed the rules, I signed up and waited my turn... I did not cheat.  But yet, my group is the one being punished for following the rules and putting in the effort.  I am not saying I have a better suggestion, but how about we do not change the rules of the game every dang 3 months?

libneon

EVGA_JacobF
Please see below message:
 

Update 10/4/2021
 
Hello,
 
In an effort to expedite those in queue who are still waiting for a EVGA GeForce RTX 30 Series Card, and to be fair to all EVGA customers, we are making a running change:
 

1. Accounts that have NOT purchased an EVGA 30 series card yet as part of the queue will be prioritized.
2. Accounts that have already purchased an EVGA 30 series card in the queue system, will be behind those who have not.

 
Note: B-Stock (RX) or Step-Up 30 Series products will not affect queue positions.
 
We hope that this update will allow more gamers to get their hands on an EVGA GeForce RTX 30 series card. If there are any questions please contact our support at .
 
Thanks
EVGA

Kinda mixed feelings on this one. I've been in queue for several 30 series cards, often fighting site outages to get in at a decent time in hopes of getting a card for myself and wife eventually. We've been trying to snag new cards for nearly a year. My 3070ti finally popped and is being delivered today (yay!), which means my wife is essentially out of queue. I'm sure scalpers and resellers have multiple accounts, just like they were doing to try and get new elite discounts, and will be unaffected by this. Those trying to get a couple cards for themselves and their spouses/kids are out of luck. Maybe 2 per household 30 series would have made more sense, but I appreciate your attempt to make this fair to everyone and I know this whole process sucks for everyone.

This would probably make sense for the I bought for my friend/family crowd, while also making it hurt less for the people waiting for almost a year. You bought one, now if you buy a second, that's it, you're done, choose wisely. I could get behind this. 
 
 

pclausen
Anyone that got notifications today are newbies that don't even know this forum exists...

 
Sourcing reports just got a LOT harder with today's news, no doubt. 

Epal2Apol
Is there a One account per Household policy?  

Each queue has a Limit 1 per household notice at the bottom.

Epal2Apol
Is there a One account per Household policy?  

I think that's come up on this before, matching addresses between accounts get flagged.  In college, I lived in a huge house with 10 other dudes, 8 of us had gaming PCs...  So address makes perfect sense...  And scammers cannot possibly use the addresses of friends and family.
 
This is a question for EVGA Support.