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Re: 1080Ti FTW3 Upgraded with the Hybrid Kit - Problem! 2018/04/10 04:29:28 (permalink)
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I do have a question though, I'm assuming there is no way for precision to detect my card as a hybrid? It's kind of weird not being able to control the fan profiles. :)


You will need to upload the Hybrid BIOS on the Slave switch (Sajin will know how to instruct you in that way).
I think you will be able to get the BIOS from techpowerup database (specific link to the BIOS is this one if I'm not mistaken https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/195363/evga-gtx1080ti-11264-170612)

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Re: 1080Ti FTW3 Upgraded with the Hybrid Kit - Problem! 2018/04/10 09:43:32 (permalink)
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I do have a question though, I'm assuming there is no way for precision to detect my card as a hybrid? It's kind of weird not being able to control the fan profiles. :)


You will need to upload the Hybrid BIOS on the Slave switch (Sajin will know how to instruct you in that way).
I think you will be able to get the BIOS from techpowerup database (specific link to the BIOS is this one if I'm not mistaken https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/195363/evga-gtx1080ti-11264-170612)


Yep, here is how to do it... https://forums.evga.com/FindPost/2736412
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Re: 1080Ti FTW3 Upgraded with the Hybrid Kit - Problem! 2018/04/10 09:59:05 (permalink)
Even on the hybrid I'm pretty sure it will still show the 3 fans on pxoc. And when you go to customize the fan profiles it will still open all 3 profiles.

This is how it is on my original ftw3 hybrid and 6797 ftw3 elite that I flashed to the hybrid bios and then used the hybrid oc vinc bios.

To control the single fan on the hybrid you want to use the power fan only. And to see the speed in pxoc osd enable the power fan tachometer.

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Re: 1080Ti FTW3 Upgraded with the Hybrid Kit - Problem! 2018/04/10 18:52:44 (permalink)
well.... put my card back together at request of EVGA. Same issues. It’s OFFICIAL.... THE HYBRID RUINED MY CARD.

Called evga they rma my card and informed me that they are aware of the issue, he also informed me that I should go ahead and instal the new hybrid kit that’s on the way to me as they have fixed the issues. He said they found an issue where the hybrid kit was making contact in certain areas where it should not have. I also notified evga rep that
I had seen a 1080ti ftw 3 hybrid tear down and there was an important bracket surrounding the chip that wasn’t included with the kit. The rep said he wasn’t aware of that but would forward to engineers.

My card will be RMAd but now I’m not sure I’ll instal hybrid. I took pics of old hybrid kit to compare to the new one. We’ll see if there are differences.
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Re: 1080Ti FTW3 Upgraded with the Hybrid Kit - Problem! 2018/04/10 19:23:39 (permalink)
Also they said “they found the issue and fixed it” but my last hybrid kit was purchased 3/27..... so does that mean they officially have replaced their warehouse with working kits?

What about people who have already purchased the kit?

I hope the “fixed” kits are not from the same stock pile as my previous kit from 3/27.

To be fair though, last week when I called evga to rma my hybrid kit the tech told me they didn’t have any issues with the kit. Now the rep says they do, so maybe now they have acknowledge it. I’d just like some reassurance that I can instal this new kit that’s coming without issue.
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Re: 1080Ti FTW3 Upgraded with the Hybrid Kit - Problem! 2018/04/10 23:55:03 (permalink)
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To be fair though, last week when I called evga to rma my hybrid kit the tech told me they didn’t have any issues with the kit. Now the rep says they do, so maybe now they have acknowledge it. I’d just like some reassurance that I can instal this new kit that’s coming without issue.



I purchased my kit on the 3rd from Amazon so maybe they did get a new batch out. Like I said in my earlier post though, the metal piece of the shroud was a tiny bit loose. Might just be how it comes from the factory or it somehow gets loose in the package process. I'm convinced that is what is shorting the card. As others mentioned, there's even a piece of electrical tape on the metal section of the shroud. Clip it tight and make sure the tape is there. Make sure to also put those micro pads on the led header. Not sure what they are for but they are there for a reason.
 
Anyways, thanks for all the insight everyone! Appreciate the help! You all made my first gpu water cooling experience go a lot smoother.
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Re: 1080Ti FTW3 Upgraded with the Hybrid Kit - Problem! 2018/04/11 04:31:49 (permalink)
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Also they said “they found the issue and fixed it” but my last hybrid kit was purchased 3/27..... so does that mean they officially have replaced their warehouse with working kits?

What about people who have already purchased the kit?

I hope the “fixed” kits are not from the same stock pile as my previous kit from 3/27.

To be fair though, last week when I called evga to rma my hybrid kit the tech told me they didn’t have any issues with the kit. Now the rep says they do, so maybe now they have acknowledge it. I’d just like some reassurance that I can instal this new kit that’s coming without issue.


It should be good to go when it arrives.
Some rep. from EVGA knows about the issue, other don't (why not doing some factory "briefing" and explain about the major issues?).

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I purchased my kit on the 3rd from Amazon so maybe they did get a new batch out. Like I said in my earlier post though, the metal piece of the shroud was a tiny bit loose. Might just be how it comes from the factory or it somehow gets loose in the package process. I'm convinced that is what is shorting the card. As others mentioned, there's even a piece of electrical tape on the metal section of the shroud. Clip it tight and make sure the tape is there. Make sure to also put those micro pads on the led header. Not sure what they are for but they are there for a reason.
 
Anyways, thanks for all the insight everyone! Appreciate the help! You all made my first gpu water cooling experience go a lot smoother.


I think the loosen grill was one of the reasons.
Someone, somewhere in this thread, said that the EVGA rep. told him that the issue was in somewhat the power delivery on the pump that goes on the card (I don't remember exactly if it was this case, but it was something similar to this).

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Re: 1080Ti FTW3 Upgraded with the Hybrid Kit - Problem! 2018/05/02 19:51:49 (permalink)
Let's bring this thread back to life to avoid any mishaps. So was the loose grill the only culprit? Anybody that RMA'd their hybrid kits notice anything different as far as contents when they received their replacement?
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Re: 1080Ti FTW3 Upgraded with the Hybrid Kit - Problem! 2018/05/02 20:03:30 (permalink)
I'll be RMA'ing my card most likely as the kit I have owned and sat on for the past couple months has now been installed and my card has been terrible ever since. 
 
Pretty disappointing that I can spend $1400 on a GPU, $200ish on hybrid kit from the same company and for it to all go belly up and fail. 
 
Hopefully they live up to their RMA support that they've been known for. 

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Re: 1080Ti FTW3 Upgraded with the Hybrid Kit - Problem! 2018/05/03 01:58:26 (permalink)
Has EVGA confirmed yet the loose metal grill at the end of shroud is actually the problem?
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Re: 1080Ti FTW3 Upgraded with the Hybrid Kit - Problem! 2018/05/03 03:54:01 (permalink)
I received my RMA card and my new hybrid pump from EVGA last week and happy to report that the issue has been fixed. I did not take any comparison pictures but I did notice a few obvious differences from the hybrid kit purchased in March to this new hybrid kit I received. The most obvious one being that the metal grill was secured and had no wiggle room or rattle like my old one. Also noticed more black tape and thermal pads in this new kit vs old. For example there was a few new pieces of black tape and thermal pads under the piece that holds the pump lines in front of the gpu chip. I also noticed a little more clearance/height between the board and the gpu pump bracket as well as that piece that holds the pump lines.

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I called evga probably about 3-4 times when my new card and pump arrived to make sure with confidence that I can instal this new kit. Rep again told me they found “a few spots where there was some contact that shouldn’t be making contact” my theory, it was causing a short somewhere.


A few obvious things to note for new installs moving forward:
1) use the screws that come with the kit, not the ones already installed in the card. There are some differences
2) don’t forget the two rubber pieces that go on the header next to the power
3) natural force when tightening screws. The moment your wrist stops turning, you stop. No extra tightening, if that’s as far as it goes then that’s the right amount.
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Re: 1080Ti FTW3 Upgraded with the Hybrid Kit - Problem! 2018/05/13 17:16:40 (permalink)
I know so many people have had issues with this kit.  I can say that I was super tedious with my install and followed tips in this thread.  It is far from a beginner level upgrade...and really pretty extensive.  I am thankful that EVGA made it available to the public, because it is probably the best upgrade I ever made.
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Re: 1080Ti FTW3 Upgraded with the Hybrid Kit - Problem! 2018/07/04 16:20:39 (permalink)
Dropping in to say that I purchased two 1080 ti FTW3 hybrid coolers when they went on sale for $110 each in June and they shorted both of my 1080 ti FTW3's preventing them from going past 1569mhz even after reinstalling the original coolers. After speaking to an EVGA rep he said it's an issue with part of the shroud shorting a component on the board and the card refusing to apply additional voltage after that point to avoid damage. He didn't specify what part it was that caused the short but did reply "no" when I asked if it was the loose grill on the back of the card, responding "it's part of the shroud itself." He sounded very casual about the fact that EVGA just can't tell when they ship a hybrid cooler with the proper electrical tape (preventing the issue) versus one without the tape and suggested calling back in and sending them "pictures of the new coolers" once on the phone with a support rep so they could "make sure it has the electrical tape in the right spot" prior to installation.

EVGA agreed to RMA the cards (at my shipping expense both ways) but when I got both of my RMA cards in one of them started heavily artifacting after a few hours of use. No amount of reseating, DDU, or different board/PSU solved the issue so it's going back to EVGA for another round of replacement. The other card immediately overheats upon launching any game (90C, 100% fan speed) so it's going to have to be returned as well. This whole thing has me highly regretting messing with my perfectly-fine-but-warm cards in the first place and I'm pretty dissuaded from buying anything but pre-assembled GPUs from EVGA in the future given their nonchalant response to shipping a product that shorted my cards. I've decided I'm just going to eat the ~$250 loss on the hybrid coolers and hope I eventually get two functioning replacement cards.
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Re: 1080Ti FTW3 Upgraded with the Hybrid Kit - Problem! 2018/07/04 17:32:54 (permalink)
They should of exchanged both cards and hybrid coolers for new hybrid 1080ti ftw3 cards. The prob could lie in the shrouds of the coolers so it will just keep happening over and over.

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Re: 1080Ti FTW3 Upgraded with the Hybrid Kit - Problem! 2018/07/15 07:43:08 (permalink)
Finally I found this thread. This just happened to my FTW3 Elite after I installed the hybrid kit. 
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Re: 1080Ti FTW3 Upgraded with the Hybrid Kit - Problem! 2018/07/15 10:19:33 (permalink)
Anyone had similar problems with the hybrid kit factory installed ?
How about HC kits ?
This doesn't inspire confidence in EVGA products, to be honest. But at least it is good to see that they take responsibility :-)
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Re: 1080Ti FTW3 Upgraded with the Hybrid Kit - Problem! 2018/07/15 10:50:07 (permalink)
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Anyone had similar problems with the hybrid kit factory installed ?
How about HC kits ?
This doesn't inspire confidence in EVGA products, to be honest. But at least it is good to see that they take responsibility :-)


One of the customer service said they will RMA both the card and the hybrid kit and provide prepaid labels since it's a "known issue" then later changed their mind. They referred me to the EU team ( I bought the card from a US supplier and I have an address in NY) who contacted me once asking if I damaged the card installing the hybrid kit even though this is a "known issue" and never heard back from them. I hope they honor thier word or this will be the last time I buy thier products (I have 6 EVGA products in my PC build)
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Re: 1080Ti FTW3 Upgraded with the Hybrid Kit - Problem! 2018/07/15 11:18:56 (permalink)
They've still not fixed the simple issue of the three standoffs being wrong to install the kit (#5598) on a standard 1080 Ti FE. The standoffs for the PWM block. I actually called them, gave them pics showing the dangerous flaw...then found a year old thread with the exact same issue spelled out in excruciating detail. The kit I got, made June 2018, still has the exact same wrong instructions and wrong standoffs that leave the PWM block loose and useless. Maybe my call will get them to fix it. I had them send me another set of standoffs to replace the ones I had to cannibalize from the brand new spare Hybrid kit I had. If folks don't harp on these issues they don't get fixed.
 
Edit: corrected from "screws" to "standoffs" to eliminate any confusion.
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Re: 1080Ti FTW3 Upgraded with the Hybrid Kit - Problem! 2018/07/15 13:39:14 (permalink)
Heavy, would you post a picture of the standoffs, identifying wrong ones and how to tell if you've got the correct ones?  Might help those that happen on this thread.
 
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Re: 1080Ti FTW3 Upgraded with the Hybrid Kit - Problem! 2018/07/15 16:22:23 (permalink)
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Heavy, would you post a picture of the, identifying wrong ones and how to tell if you've got the correct ones?  Might help those that happen on this thread.
 
Ian


One better the thread (there is also another) with a new person with the same issue: https://forums.evga.com/F...r-Kit-m2697681-p4.aspx
 

Is the issue. they call out using three standoffs that have shoulders that prevent you from cinching the PWM block down. If you don't catch it, the only thing holding the fan and the heat sink on  the MOSFETS is the stickiness of the thermal tape. You can easily pull it up a 1/4 inch off of the MOSFETS.  If you have a backplate you can't use washers.
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Re: 1080Ti FTW3 Upgraded with the Hybrid Kit - Problem! 2018/07/15 23:51:05 (permalink)
What is going on at EVGA HQ? EVGA is completely falling apart and appears to have no quality control nor inventory control.

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Re: 1080Ti FTW3 Upgraded with the Hybrid Kit - Problem! 2018/07/16 00:47:10 (permalink)
Not completely falling apart, they've just decided that it's more cost effective to RMA the ones that have trouble vs doing a recall on every unit on the market.


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Re: 1080Ti FTW3 Upgraded with the Hybrid Kit - Problem! 2018/07/16 01:11:05 (permalink)
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Not completely falling apart, they've just decided that it's more cost effective to RMA the ones that have trouble vs doing a recall on every unit on the market.

After NINE months of these issues, EVGA cannot,
1) admit in most discussions that this problem exists,
2) correct the production issue,
3) control their inventory to identify and quarantine the faulty shrouds in order to prevent faulty shrouds from continuing to damage cards.

This is EVGA's solution: We'll send you a new card and new hybrid cooler kit, and hopefully the new kit won't also be faulty and hopefully the new card will not also fail. Oh, actually, why don't you the customer take pictures of the shroud once you receive it, send us the pictures, and we'll let you know whether it is safe for you to proceed to install the kit.

Is EVGA so lazy, so low on man-power, or so unorganized that they can't identify and quarantine the bad shrouds ahead of time? If you are a company who creates and sells a product, if you can't control the quality of the product nor manage your inventory, you cannot succeed long. Treating the customer like a commodity does no additional favors. Falling apart! The past year has been one defective, faulty, buggy, or misleading product after another followed by shameful support decisions and excuses leaving the customer on their own with a defective, faulty, buggy, or correctly working product -- which works correctly but not in the way advertised -- with few options but hours on the phone, shipping expenses, upgrade costs, or taking matters in their own hands and fixing the product on their own.
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Re: 1080Ti FTW3 Upgraded with the Hybrid Kit - Problem! 2018/07/16 02:55:17 (permalink)
You forgot to put 《Rant Off》at the end. It's ok, easy to forget. Next time though, be sure to turn it off before proceeding.


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Re: 1080Ti FTW3 Upgraded with the Hybrid Kit - Problem! 2018/07/16 10:11:46 (permalink)
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Not completely falling apart, they've just decided that it's more cost effective to RMA the ones that have trouble vs doing a recall on every unit on the market.

After NINE months of these issues, EVGA cannot,
1) admit in most discussions that this problem exists,
2) correct the production issue,
3) control their inventory to identify and quarantine the faulty shrouds in order to prevent faulty shrouds from continuing to damage cards.

This is EVGA's solution: We'll send you a new card and new hybrid cooler kit, and hopefully the new kit won't also be faulty and hopefully the new card will not also fail. Oh, actually, why don't you the customer take pictures of the shroud once you receive it, send us the pictures, and we'll let you know whether it is safe for you to proceed to install the kit.

Is EVGA so lazy, so low on man-power, or so unorganized that they can't identify and quarantine the bad shrouds ahead of time? If you are a company who creates and sells a product, if you can't control the quality of the product nor manage your inventory, you cannot succeed long. Treating the customer like a commodity does no additional favors. Falling apart! The past year has been one defective, faulty, buggy, or misleading product after another followed by shameful support decisions and excuses leaving the customer on their own with a defective, faulty, buggy, or correctly working product -- which works correctly but not in the way advertised -- with few options but hours on the phone, shipping expenses, upgrade costs, or taking matters in their own hands and fixing the product on their own.

 
Maybe because only EVGA tried to sell stand-alone custom AIO kits for its GPUs. Everything happens to these kits is kind of a new challenging experience for both customers and the company.
And EVGA is not like MSI or ASUS, it is much smaller than these companies. Its production cycle is limited, less engineering experience too. Say the product is innovative with greater risk. When it works, it is amazing. Don't be too surprised when it fails.

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Re: 1080Ti FTW3 Upgraded with the Hybrid Kit - Problem! 2018/07/16 10:14:34 (permalink)
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Not completely falling apart, they've just decided that it's more cost effective to RMA the ones that have trouble vs doing a recall on every unit on the market.

After NINE months of these issues, EVGA cannot,
1) admit in most discussions that this problem exists,
2) correct the production issue,
3) control their inventory to identify and quarantine the faulty shrouds in order to prevent faulty shrouds from continuing to damage cards.

This is EVGA's solution: We'll send you a new card and new hybrid cooler kit, and hopefully the new kit won't also be faulty and hopefully the new card will not also fail. Oh, actually, why don't you the customer take pictures of the shroud once you receive it, send us the pictures, and we'll let you know whether it is safe for you to proceed to install the kit.

Is EVGA so lazy, so low on man-power, or so unorganized that they can't identify and quarantine the bad shrouds ahead of time? If you are a company who creates and sells a product, if you can't control the quality of the product nor manage your inventory, you cannot succeed long. Treating the customer like a commodity does no additional favors. Falling apart! The past year has been one defective, faulty, buggy, or misleading product after another followed by shameful support decisions and excuses leaving the customer on their own with a defective, faulty, buggy, or correctly working product -- which works correctly but not in the way advertised -- with few options but hours on the phone, shipping expenses, upgrade costs, or taking matters in their own hands and fixing the product on their own.



You gotta wonder when us old timers who have been around for a nearly a decade or more are citing these obvious issues that product manager Jacob would chime in and let us know that he's actually not completely oblivious to the serious and seemingly 'shoot yourself in the foot' issues time and time again. Pretty much every mistake is due to being sloppy not technically inept. The newer Hybrid IS a better design than the original. The WRONG SCREWS is SLOPPY and is and was a simple and easy fix. The fact they have not fixed something so simple and obvious AND DANGEROUS TO THE PRODUCT, is beyond me. It's almost like a big FU, to the customer. Who ever edits this.....  maybe give Jacob a shout out.

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Re: 1080Ti FTW3 Upgraded with the Hybrid Kit - Problem! 2018/07/16 10:23:27 (permalink)
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Not completely falling apart, they've just decided that it's more cost effective to RMA the ones that have trouble vs doing a recall on every unit on the market.

After NINE months of these issues, EVGA cannot,
1) admit in most discussions that this problem exists,
2) correct the production issue,
3) control their inventory to identify and quarantine the faulty shrouds in order to prevent faulty shrouds from continuing to damage cards.

This is EVGA's solution: We'll send you a new card and new hybrid cooler kit, and hopefully the new kit won't also be faulty and hopefully the new card will not also fail. Oh, actually, why don't you the customer take pictures of the shroud once you receive it, send us the pictures, and we'll let you know whether it is safe for you to proceed to install the kit.

Is EVGA so lazy, so low on man-power, or so unorganized that they can't identify and quarantine the bad shrouds ahead of time? If you are a company who creates and sells a product, if you can't control the quality of the product nor manage your inventory, you cannot succeed long. Treating the customer like a commodity does no additional favors. Falling apart! The past year has been one defective, faulty, buggy, or misleading product after another followed by shameful support decisions and excuses leaving the customer on their own with a defective, faulty, buggy, or correctly working product -- which works correctly but not in the way advertised -- with few options but hours on the phone, shipping expenses, upgrade costs, or taking matters in their own hands and fixing the product on their own.

 
Maybe because only EVGA tried to sell stand-alone custom AIO kits for its GPUs. Everything happens to these kits is kind of a new challenging experience for both customers and the company.
And EVGA is not like MSI or ASUS, it is much smaller than these companies. Its production cycle is limited, less engineering experience too. Say the product is innovative with greater risk. When it works, it is amazing. Don't be too surprised when it fails.




Nah...their errors are due to being sloppy.  I'm sorry, I'm not buying it's innovative so expect a higher failure rate. Considering the longer warranty period others provide for AIO's using the same Asetek pump...should be three years at least given you expect a higher failure rate.

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Re: 1080Ti FTW3 Upgraded with the Hybrid Kit - Problem! 2018/07/16 11:07:52 (permalink)
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Not completely falling apart, they've just decided that it's more cost effective to RMA the ones that have trouble vs doing a recall on every unit on the market.

After NINE months of these issues, EVGA cannot,
1) admit in most discussions that this problem exists,
2) correct the production issue,
3) control their inventory to identify and quarantine the faulty shrouds in order to prevent faulty shrouds from continuing to damage cards.

This is EVGA's solution: We'll send you a new card and new hybrid cooler kit, and hopefully the new kit won't also be faulty and hopefully the new card will not also fail. Oh, actually, why don't you the customer take pictures of the shroud once you receive it, send us the pictures, and we'll let you know whether it is safe for you to proceed to install the kit.

Is EVGA so lazy, so low on man-power, or so unorganized that they can't identify and quarantine the bad shrouds ahead of time? If you are a company who creates and sells a product, if you can't control the quality of the product nor manage your inventory, you cannot succeed long. Treating the customer like a commodity does no additional favors. Falling apart! The past year has been one defective, faulty, buggy, or misleading product after another followed by shameful support decisions and excuses leaving the customer on their own with a defective, faulty, buggy, or correctly working product -- which works correctly but not in the way advertised -- with few options but hours on the phone, shipping expenses, upgrade costs, or taking matters in their own hands and fixing the product on their own.

 
Maybe because only EVGA tried to sell stand-alone custom AIO kits for its GPUs. Everything happens to these kits is kind of a new challenging experience for both customers and the company.
And EVGA is not like MSI or ASUS, it is much smaller than these companies. Its production cycle is limited, less engineering experience too. Say the product is innovative with greater risk. When it works, it is amazing. Don't be too surprised when it fails.




Nah...their errors are due to being sloppy.  I'm sorry, I'm not buying it's innovative so expect a higher failure rate. Considering the longer warranty period others provide for AIO's using the same Asetek pump...should be three years at least given you expect a higher failure rate.


sloppy = less experienced engineering.
Most times a design flaw can be only found after the release of the product.
The problem of the kit is the shroud scratching the PCB too much during installation, not the Asetek pump. 
If you ask ASUS to make an AIO kit for the first time, ASUS will probably make the same mistake too, but ASUS has multiple production cycles (because the company is bigger, sells more) to make it up. This is not something EVGA can come up with within a couple of years.
So when purchasing stuff from a smaller company, you expect better RMA. EVGA at least has good RMA service.
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Re: 1080Ti FTW3 Upgraded with the Hybrid Kit - Problem! 2018/07/17 12:07:42 (permalink)
Did this ever get fixed? I am having the same issue.
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Re: 1080Ti FTW3 Upgraded with the Hybrid Kit - Problem! 2018/07/17 12:25:27 (permalink)
Their is no quick fix for this issue other then rma'ing the card.. you can try removing it and putting the stock cooler back on and see if the card runs normal again first.. there going to make you do as much anyways when you rma the card.

Just dont plan on putting the same hybrid cooler on another card as the same will happen again.

I dont think evga has ever claimed what the issue is

They should just send you a ftw3 hybrid as the stick card dont have this issue. Only the hybrid kits have something different about them that's damaging the card.

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