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1080Ti FTW3 Upgraded with the Hybrid Kit - Problem!

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2017/10/10 06:19:37 (permalink)
Hey Guys, I have a problem with the Hybrid Kit for the FTW3. I recently upgraded my FTW3 with the Hybrid Kit and since that, the Precision Software from EVGA is going Crazy... I installed the Kit properly and everything works fine technically but Precision doesn't recognize my Card as a Hybrid. It says it's a FTW3 and when I try to OC the Card to +60 Core the Screen Freeze for about 10-30 seconds and after that the Clock speeds don't get higher as 1569Mhz... I tried both Master and Slave and I have absolutely no clue... the german Support told me to untighten the screws from the Card 'cause this solves about 98% the problems people have. I didn't tighten the screws that hard in the first place... Hope you guys can help me in some way... sry for my german english :D
 

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    Re: 1080Ti FTW3 Upgraded with the Hybrid Kit - Problem! 2017/10/10 06:55:05 (permalink)
    Has this ever happened before you installed the Hybrid kit?

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    Re: 1080Ti FTW3 Upgraded with the Hybrid Kit - Problem! 2017/10/10 06:57:17 (permalink)
    Nope... its the first Time ever :/
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    Re: 1080Ti FTW3 Upgraded with the Hybrid Kit - Problem! 2017/10/10 09:49:31 (permalink)
    Remove PXOC and NVIDIA Drivers and Delete the Profile Folder.
    Run DDU in Safe Mode and then Install the NVIDIA Driver you want to use restart your PC and Install PXOC and see how they run.

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    Re: 1080Ti FTW3 Upgraded with the Hybrid Kit - Problem! 2017/10/10 11:03:43 (permalink)
    Precision isn't going to recognize your ftw3 card as a ftw3 hybrid card as your current card doesn't have the hybrid vbios loaded to it. I bet your driver crashed and recovered when the screen froze.
     
    When the graphics driver crashes & recovers during a 3d load clocks will get locked to a lower value until you close the 3d app & let the card return to idle clocks (139/405). Sometimes you'll need to reboot the machine to restore normal clocks. 
     
    A unstable overclock can cause the screen to freeze up & the driver to crash & recover. +60 seems to be too high of an overclock for your card. Start with +20 and work your way up in +20 increments.
    post edited by Sajin - 2017/10/10 11:05:45


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    Re: 1080Ti FTW3 Upgraded with the Hybrid Kit - Problem! 2017/10/10 12:17:38 (permalink)
    Sajin
    Precision isn't going to recognize your ftw3 card as a ftw3 hybrid card as your current card doesn't have the hybrid vbios loaded to it. I bet your driver crashed and recovered when the screen froze.
     
    When the graphics driver crashes & recovers during a 3d load clocks will get locked to a lower value until you close the 3d app & let the card return to idle clocks (139/405). Sometimes you'll need to reboot the machine to restore normal clocks. 
     
    A unstable overclock can cause the screen to freeze up & the driver to crash & recover. +60 seems to be too high of an overclock for your card. Start with +20 and work your way up in +20 increments.




    I agree with this guy. My FTW3 will boost to 2025 with just a +25 on the core clock while the temps are below 40c which that lasts about 10 seconds lol. 

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    Re: 1080Ti FTW3 Upgraded with the Hybrid Kit - Problem! 2017/10/10 12:21:46 (permalink)
    My hybrid boosts to 2037 (+50) @1.093v. 1070 sc2 boosts to 2037 +(72) @ 1.081v.

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    Re: 1080Ti FTW3 Upgraded with the Hybrid Kit - Problem! 2017/10/10 12:36:22 (permalink)
    I agree with Sajin.  Your card will NEVER be recognized as a Hybrid because it's not a factory Hybrid.  Period.  As for your clocks, when the driver crashes, all hell breaks loose.  Just because you installed a Hybrid kit doesn't mean you will automagically get a better overclock.  It still comes down to the silicon lottery.  FTW3 is a pretty high clocked card to begin with and is almost at it's max out of the box.  I myself have a 1080Ti Hybrid that is a serious lottery winner as it can run at 2133 stable all day everyday while folding, but when the driver crashes, it gets locked at 1974 and I need to reboot the entire system to get it back to overlcocked values again.  I now run it at only 2075 and since then the driver hasn't crashed in over a month, so it is now truly stable.
     
     

     

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    Re: 1080Ti FTW3 Upgraded with the Hybrid Kit - Problem! 2017/10/12 06:05:00 (permalink)
    Thanks for your Help guys! It's not about overclocking the Card, it's about PrecisionX. Without ANY changes to the Clocks my Card will not get any higher as 1569Mhz. I have no clue what to do. And when I make only one change with the Tool like +1Mhz to the Core Clock, the Cursor is stuttering and it seems to be a massive input Lag -.-
     

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    Re: 1080Ti FTW3 Upgraded with the Hybrid Kit - Problem! 2017/10/12 07:33:02 (permalink)
    Ok so every time I make a Change in the Tool for example only setting the Temp Target to 89° Celsius, the program freezes, black screen, some green and black dots (lol) and then I'm back at my desktop but the highest possible Clocks are 1569Mhz... I also deleted and installed the Nvidia Driver in a complete way (delete folders, registry etc.)... I also switched the PCIe Lane on my MB, but nothing seems to solve the problem -.-
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    Re: 1080Ti FTW3 Upgraded with the Hybrid Kit - Problem! 2017/10/12 07:42:18 (permalink)
    GPU Temperature ?
     
    CPU Temperature ?
     
    MB Temperature ?
     
    Room Temperature ?
     
    OS ?
     
    Nvidia driver # ?
     
    Nvidia Control Panel settings ?
     
    Windows device Manager -- issues ? (yellow circles)
     
    What benchmark software are you running to test GPU ?  GPU will Only OC if needed
     
    CPU, MB, RAM and ANY overclocking ?
     
    Test GPU with Stock (no OC) on your CPU & RAM
     
    Can Also be a sign of Unstable Power - check
     
    Card fully seated ?
    Wall outlet / source
    PSU
    Power cable from PSU to card - (swap with spare cable and different PSU output if possible)

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    Re: 1080Ti FTW3 Upgraded with the Hybrid Kit - Problem! 2017/10/12 07:52:17 (permalink)
    -Windwos 10 64Bit
     
    -Nvidia Driver 387.92
     
    -PrecisionX Version 6.1.16
     
    -Nope, no yellow circles. everything is fine
     
    -I'm running FurMark GPU Stress Test Version 1.19.0.0
     
    -Yes I resetted every change I made in the Bios to default
     
    -Temperatures:
     
    MB 29°
    CPU 40°
    GPU 24°
    Room 21°
     
    I will check the Cables! thx
    post edited by TimStoll - 2017/10/12 07:55:01
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    Re: 1080Ti FTW3 Upgraded with the Hybrid Kit - Problem! 2017/10/12 08:11:18 (permalink)
    Update: I changed the PSU Cables but it didn't helped... my PSU is a Corsair AX1200i from a previous build I had, so the Power must be enough for this Card :D
     
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    post edited by TimStoll - 2017/10/12 08:13:50
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    Re: 1080Ti FTW3 Upgraded with the Hybrid Kit - Problem! 2017/10/12 08:12:29 (permalink)
    Did you check this thread ? Basic troubleshooting steps. Windows clean boot, clean driver install, debug mode, etc.
     
    What other GPUs have been in this PC ?
     
    Other thoughts:
    - Download the Newest Nvidia driver -- direct from Nvidia
     
    - Download Precision XOX 6.1.14
     
     
     Uninstall Precision XOC
     
         1) Make sure when you remove Precision XOC, you then reboot
     
         2) then you Manually remove the Precision Folder off your drive - look in Program Files (x86), then reboot
     
    2B) After removing Precision
     
         Run DDU in default (safe mod with reboot) to remove all traces of old GPU driver
     
         Go offline, stop all background software - Including Security Software
     
         NOW --use the Custom install Nvidia driver with Clean install --ONLY install GPU driver & PhysX   ---> DO NOT install anything else (3D, Sound ....)
     

         3) Now Reinstall Precision, with nothing else running - pull the internet connection - kill security and any other item that's running - Reboot again
     
    Note: on newer GPU cards, After you install XOC, shutdown PC, remove the power cord from wall, Remove All Powered accessories (monitor, USB hub ...) press and hold power button on PC 30 seconds - discharge all capacitors, plug everything back in & Restart your PC
    Download the Newest Nvidia driver -- direct from Nvidia
     
     
     
    post edited by Cool GTX - 2017/10/12 08:49:03

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    Re: 1080Ti FTW3 Upgraded with the Hybrid Kit - Problem! 2017/10/12 08:39:14 (permalink)
    ok so I did all the steps with the DDU and followed everything step by step and checked twice... but nothing is working... Still one change in Precision -> Freeze -> Black -> Desktop -> not higher than 1569Mhz...
     
    I don't think I broke something because technically everything works fine and I was super careful as I always been in my four previous custom Watercooled PC's :/
     
    I hope this is not gonna be a RMA 
     
    The LED's are working, the Pump is quite, the Temps are low... the only thing that doesn't work is that the clocks don't get over 1569Mhz... I'm so confused 
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    Re: 1080Ti FTW3 Upgraded with the Hybrid Kit - Problem! 2017/10/12 08:47:21 (permalink)
    Completely uninstall precision x, reboot pc, retest furmark without precision x installed.


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    Re: 1080Ti FTW3 Upgraded with the Hybrid Kit - Problem! 2017/10/12 11:57:30 (permalink)
    Sajin
    Completely uninstall precision x, reboot pc, retest furmark without precision x installed.




    Tested it, same Clockspeed :/ I will run it for the next hour to see if something happen...
     
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    Re: 1080Ti FTW3 Upgraded with the Hybrid Kit - Problem! 2017/10/12 12:01:44 (permalink)
    Do you experience the issue on both vbioses?


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    Re: 1080Ti FTW3 Upgraded with the Hybrid Kit - Problem! 2017/10/12 12:08:19 (permalink)
    Nope, ever since I upgraded to the Hybrid. 
     
    There is also no difference between Master and Slave Bios relating to my problem 
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    Re: 1080Ti FTW3 Upgraded with the Hybrid Kit - Problem! 2017/10/12 12:13:55 (permalink)
    Does the issue only occur in furmark, or does it occur in all applications as well? If all applications...
     
    Reinstall the stock cooler to see if it helps make the issue go away. If the issue presists after installing the stock cooler test the card in another pc (family, freind, or local pc shop), or just rma the card.


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