Anyone get any emails yet that Optimus mentioned in their tweet last week?  That tweet kinda got me excited a bit and I know their history about communication with customers can sometimes be lacking a bit.  I am still within the 6 week window that I believe they mentioned in their earlier release of information pertaining to the Kingpin block or our assumptions when it would be ready for shipping.  
 
I'm fine waiting, but just wanted to see if anyone else got anything this week from them yet.  I boxed up my Kingpin after bench testing so I could work on my friends one this week when time permits so I'm about as ready as I could be for this to be available.  
 
Thanks.  

No communication to me either.

heheh, I admit I allowed my hopes to get up a little. But this isn't my first rodeo with optimus either, so a healthy amount of skepticism is always warranted. :)

Well, Optimus made an announcement in twitter today, just to say that the start of delivery has been delayed for two weeks.  They will announce the finishing process options next week and start delivery the following week.
 
https://twitter.com/Optim...us/1436360746745544704

pmclean
Obviously I am not the only who receives communication, see post above from GotSpeed.
Creating a product that has to be as precise as a waterblock for another company's video card is maybe a little more complicated then you think.

 
I've been involved in machining race car engine parts in the same machine ship that was contracted to make parts for the international space station and several other high priced objects orbiting in space.  I'm familiar what it takes to machine something to high tolerances.  I'm also familiar that if the constantly miss deadline like Optimus has with their PC parts, then they don't get awarded new contracts and/or they get penalized for missing deadlines.
 

pmclean
The performance difference for Optimus blocks is more than margin of error or run to run variance is my experience and others posting their results.

 
Please go back and reread what I said. "The real world performance difference between Optimus CPU blocks and many competitors products is so small that its almost within margin or error." I'm talking about CPU blocks. Independent tech reviewers got similar results to my own testing. This is backed up by multiple tech reviewers in addition to my own testing and other testing I've seen from other customers. 1C is within margin of error for CPU block testing. Some tech reputable reviewers say 2C is within margin of error if you are using the CPU's own temperature reporting.
 
Are you disputing that fact that multiple tech reviewers and owners of Optimus PCU water blocks have done tests of Optimus CPU blocks and saw results that were within 1-2C of other waterblocks? 
 
If it takes more than double the TDP of a CPU to see a small performance difference between a $60-$70 CPU water block and a $120+ Optimus CPU water block are the Optimus blocks actually that much better for most use cases?
 

pmclean
If you think their fittings are no better than all the others you're wrong, just wrong.

 
There is ZERO real world difference in the performance of Optimus' soft tubing fittings compared to fittings costing $4-$5 each. None what so ever. To say otherwise is just ignoring facts.
 
The cheaper $4.50 soft tubing fittings hold well enough that I can grab the soft tubing of a PC water cooling loop  and pick up and carry the entire PC by the tubing. Not that I'd recommend doing that, but someone asked me how strong are hand tight fittings on soft tubing and we decided to find out. I had to carry a system I was taking apart across the room to drain it. If I can pickup and carry a water cooled PC that weighs about 25-30 pounds by a piece of soft tubing between two radiators without the tubing slipping out of the fittings, I don't know what else you expect out of a fitting. In addition to that, the lower priced fittings hold 15 PSI to do an air pressure leak test.
 
Do Optimus soft tubing fittings hold more securely than that? Does it matter when fittings that cost 1/3 to 1/2 the price do more than should be expected of a fitting? Cheaper fittings go above and beyond what is required of them. Why is a $12+ fitting better? You are paying for appearance and not better real world performance.
 

pmclean
Sorry not trying to troll but give people the truth here not just try to bash Optimus every way you can think of.

 
Everything I have said is 100% truthful and factual.
 

pmclean
They sale a brand name Xylem D5 pump for $75 dollars. Where can you get a D5 for half that? Name one other watercooling website that sell actual brand name Xylem pumps?

 
Does Optimus make Xylem D5 pumps? Nope. So where is the relevance in that???? Again you are grasping at straws and changing the topic away from Optimus' own products. Try not going off topic please. We are talking about Optimus, their products, their lack of communication, and their lack of customer service.
 

pmclean
The reservoir etc, you are paying for much higher quality materials and machining. It's a long term purchase that gives peace of mind against leaks. If you don't consider those advantages, that they mean nothing and you're just paying for looks that's your opinion. But it doesn't change the fact that they are advantages over other products made with inferior materials. Unless you're using a $3 plastic bucket you paid for looks when you bought a res.

 
Lower cost reservoirs from other manufacturers have held up to years of daily use without leaks. Why should I pay more unless I want that exact look of the Optimus products? Sure it costs Optimus more to manufacture their products. That doesn't make them better in real world use cases just because they have a higher manufacturing cost.
 

pmclean
If you're not overclocking then I would question why you would want to buy any high end blocks to begin with. If someone not overclocking wants to setup custom water loop for silent cooling or whatever reason they probably don't need to spend the extra on the most expensive blocks on the market.

 
Where have I said I'm not overclocking? Did you not understand what you read or assumed I'm not overclocking?
 
I have the 3rd highest two GPU Port Royal score in the world on Hwbot. I have at least one 3DMark Hall of Fame top 10 score. I have several other top 3 scores on Hwbot for dual 3090s including two of the highest scores for dual 3090s in GPUPI to 1 billion and 32 billion digits. I also have a bunch of 1st and 2nd place scores for some other cards.
 

pmclean
Why do you require regular updates when you preorder? What is there to say to you expect telling you when the product is ready to ship? Really nothing else matters. If you feel entitled to constant updates when you preorder a product that has not even been created yet maybe you should just wait until products are made and more than one batch has been sent out.

 
Did you fail to comprehend what you read in my reply above? I didn't ask for regular updates when I preordered. Nor did I said I need or want them.
 
I did complain about Optimus' lack of communication and many delays multiple times in the past. I did say they were already making excuses for missing the shipping deadline they gave their customers in July.
 

pmclean
I am telling people that Optimus is NOT as bad as you say. They do communicate.

 
There are many Optimus customers who disagree with you. My experience and the experience of many of their other customers seems to be vastly different than yours.
 
I saw this as a reply to Optimus on twitter today:

 
It appears that other customers have the same issues I have had.
 

pmclean
I ordered my FTW3 block after I think they sent out two batches. I didn't wait very long for it, about a month maybe less. I certainly didn't feel the need to email them to ask when it would be ready.

 
Again did you fail to comprehend what you read in my reply above? I ordered an item that I verified was in stock according to Optimus. It was not in stock even though they claimed it was. Optimus ignored all of my attempts of communication asking about the delay and an estimated shipment time frame for over three months starting a month after I ordered.
 

pmclean
My CPU block, V2 Intel, came right away, it was at my home in eastern canada in less than 2 weeks from when I ordered. They have responded to every email I've sent them, and responded when I used the contact us form on the website. The very first time I emailed them using the contact us form they did not reply but I had not yet ordered anything so I understand now why they didn't reply. They responded in between one of my orders as well, just to say all my replies have not been directly related to orders I had made.
From all you have to complain about Optimus it confuses me why you continue to order from them, especially preorder.

 
I preordered the Optimus Kingpin blocks because it was my only option for a 3090 Kingpin water block that wouldn't leak with chilled water. The EVGA Hydro Copper blocks leak when using chilled water(it appears to be a flaw in the design) and of the two 3090 Kingpin Hydro Copper blocks I own, only one can be fixed up to the point where it doesn't leak when using chilled water. If I had any other option than Optimus or a leaking EVGA block for a 3090 Kingpin water block, I wouldn't have pre ordered.
 

MackWage
I'm so excited for this block and cannot wait to get it!
As for comments on Optimus as a company - I have been nothing short of impressed with all of their products .. as well as their customer service when I do reach out. I agree the wait times and continued delays with brand new product releases can be frustrating ... however they're still a newer company and have expressed multiple times how demand far exceeded their expectations ... and how they're taking steps to upgrade their process or factory to streamline their operation. So I do not perceive any of the delays as malicious or incompetence in any way ... just a newer small company experiencing explosive growth and growing pains.
And with how happy I am with their FTW3 blocks ... I have no qualms with a longer wait or delay to get a product of that tier quality .. especially for a KPE card.

 
Optimus isn't a new company. They have been making PC parts since 2017. They have been making parts for other industries for many years before that.
 

redteamgo
In the past few days I've become very disgruntled with EKWB. They go way out of their way to market themselves as top tier but they just aren't. They're giving me a hard time on replacing a stripped screw. Not to mention, their pump, rads, and fans all have different standards: 3 different allen wrenches, some phillips and some plastic allen (which shattered when I tried to remove a stopper - I had to score the plastic remnants out of the bottom of my res this morning when the key shattered while trying to loosen a res), I'm just over it.. they wanted me to send youtube videos and pictures of a quantum magnitude screw that had stripped using their own fitted allen wrench when I requested a new screw.

 
My experience with EKWB has been completely different. I had a problem with a drain valve not opening. I contacted EKWB support. They got back to me the same day, which was shocking because they are in Europe and I expected everyone to be finished with work at that time of the day, and told me they would send me a new valve or if I needed one quicker, I could contact an authorized retailer in the U.S. for a replacement valve. I contacted the retailer I purchased the valve from, and forwarded the emails form EKWB. I had a new drain valve sitting in a box on my door step in 2 days.
 
EKWB has always included extra screws in the blocks I've purchased. I'd check the box it came in of the bag with the screws and other parts if you saved that.
 
I can't say I've ever broken one of EKWB's synthetic allen wrenches, but I can see that its possible if trying to loosen something that was over tightened. I don't see what your issue is with having several different size screw heads. Its the same way on car or motorcycle or EVGA's own water blocks. You use the appropriate type and size fasteners. Most of the EKWB stuff I've owned or used has used one of 3 sizes of allen keys.

On a side note, I was testing out Island Fleet's Kingpin tonight while he and I are waiting for our Optimus blocks and I was finally able to break 15k in Port Royal with my POS test pc.  Asus Tuff Gaming Mobo, 5800X cpu, and average ram was used with no rebar settings.  It looked like I was hitting around 470 watts of power draw but we wont know for sure until we build his pc and get that card changed out and blocked into his open loop system that we have to build still.  Now it has me more excited about mines to see if I can get mines to do similar performances.  But from the early results it looks like atleast his KP is pretty decent.  
 
Have a good weekend, here's hope that we get some good news this week.  

FYI:  https://twitter.com/Optimus_WC/status/1438894443487105027
 
No idea how to select what Cerakote color I want instead of the Satin Nickel I ordered...

pclausen
FYI:  https://twitter.com/Optimus_WC/status/1438894443487105027
 
No idea how to select what Cerakote color I want instead of the Satin Nickel I ordered...

Thanks for posting this.  I didn't have a chance to see what they were up to and came on to the forums and found your post.  I was actually starting to think they were going to miss their timeline to post info this week.  I checked my email and I haven't gotten anything yet to allow me to change my color, but given the choices (Matte White, Matter Black, Satin Silver) I am going to stay with the silver since for the most part I don't plan on running colored coolant.  I think the white would be awesome with colored coolant and help make the colors pop, the black would be more a subdued color for a stealth build perhaps.
 
On their site it shows a blue, but interestingly it is not an option listed in their tweet.  The blue does look kinda cool and it's vastly different from what I've seen in water blocks available.  
 
Now waiting on the emails to let them know what color we want.  It's nice that they are putting both colors of orings in the KP orders so we can choose what we want without having to buy another oring.  Plus in the worst case scenario you now will have a spare to keep around.  
 
 

mech9t5

pclausen
FYI:  https://twitter.com/Optimus_WC/status/1438894443487105027
 
No idea how to select what Cerakote color I want instead of the Satin Nickel I ordered...

I think Optimus answered this here, although they did not mention when they will start delivery of pre-orders; supposedly next week:
 
https://twitter.com/crazy...us/1438913092143001603
 
 

Mech9t5,
Did you order one too?  I'm looking forward to finally getting my KP into my loop.  My bench test pc sucks when compared to my PC so I'm really looking forward to getting the block and and literally tearing apart my KP hybrid to get this block on it.  Might be time to use a sick day or two when it comes in.  

pclausen

mech9t5

pclausen
FYI:  https://twitter.com/Optimus_WC/status/1438894443487105027
 
No idea how to select what Cerakote color I want instead of the Satin Nickel I ordered...

I think Optimus answered this here, although they did not mention when they will start delivery of pre-orders; supposedly next week:
 
https://twitter.com/crazy...us/1438913092143001603
 

 
Yeah that was me posting (tweeting?) that question.  Ok, that makes sense.

Man, I did not make that connection with your EVGA and Twitter name...lol

Dope! Love the Cerakote finishes. Think I'll do the white.

DEJ915
These fools should wait until the product is actually ready to be manufactured before taking orders on it.  Changing the product once a month for several months and never delivering is just rude to the customer.

Then don't order until it's ready???  Nobody is forcing you to preorder lol.

I am going with order clarification either Thursday or Friday pertaining to who wants what colors and then depending on whether they have them finished with those colors to be shipped out the middle of the following week.  
 
To be honest, I can't see how Optimus is ready to ship out blocks without knowing what colors the customers want.  They are offering 3 colors so unless they have tons of supply how can they have enough blocks coated and ready for immediate shipping?  I was hoping for an email either today or tomorrow asking us so that we can start getting our choices in so they can plan/prepare them for shipping, but I didn't get anything today.  
 
If the blocks are not cerakoted yet, then the ship out dates once they send us the info on how to choice what color finishes we want will be different based on the amount of time it will take them to coat the blocks in the quantity of colors requested, assemble the blocks, and the prepare them for shipping.  I can't see how they are going to do it by the end of next week unless the coating process is that much faster now.  The KP block is not a large scale order so I can't see them preparing a bunch of each color and having them available to package.  
 
And for the record I do like the products Optimus makes and manufacturers.  I don't plan on buying any water block from another company as long as there is a offering from Optimus.  But I really can't see them sending out the blocks next week.  I'm cool waiting a little longer, and who knows maybe they did make enough to stock some on the side so that they could meet all their orders regardless of what colors users requested.

Optimus will not keep their schedule of shipping this week:

https://mobile.twitter.co...us/1440438542014955520

They did not say when they plan to ship. It’s probably good this way since they cannot meet their schedule.

I don't think they were going to ship this week.  They were supposed to let the ones who ordered the choice of colors with shipping to follow.  Knowing Optimus I'm thinking they are going to notify the early buyers of color choice late this week either Thursday or Friday.  
 
The person who tweeted them basically said if it doesn't ship this week that they would cancel their order.  The Optimus response was to that, so as they shared earlier they released info late last week on what was going on with the block which turned out to be the cerakote and the addition of both the black and white gaskets/orings for the blocks.  Then the notifications of color choices would be sent to those who ordered.  Until those go out, nothing can be done so I'm checking my emails looking for that notification throughout the day.  
 
I'm still thinking we are a few weeks out before they ship to the majority of early orders.  But I am hoping they are able to ship the blocks out very soon.  
 
I'm crossing my fingers that they are able to hold their timelines as I really want to get my Kingpin into my open loop pc.  
 
I'm thinking once they notify and get our choices for finishes, then we would be about two weeks from ship out from them at that point.  Until then, we are waiting for the next step and email from them.  

If anyone gets their notification of color choice email, can you post it here.  I will do the same as well.  
 
The wait is almost over.  
 
 

Well, in response to the tweet, Optimus did say that they “will not ship this week as previously announced”, unfortunately. So yeah, we still don’t have hard date of when the emails will be sent out and of shipping.