I just ordered mines tonight as soon as I saw the post here about it being available to order.  I don't know how many people got in before me, but atleast they took my order and money so that could be a good sign.  It does look wild, but the back plate waterblock is crazy.  It looks like it would cool better than some of the other front side water blocks.  I'm just trying to figure out from the photos how we are going to utilize the ports now there is a front and rear water cooling channels.  It might force me to make a change to my loop order.  But the clock is not ticking for it's arrival.  

The price came back to what Optimus shared it would be.  Considering the active cooling on the back plate, it is well worth it all considering.  The way it looks like thy designed the backplate, it really is like getting two water blocks instead of one.  Atleast we know its coming and about when, I feel better about my Kingpin knowing what is now coming.  Anything could have happened on Optimus' side to cancel or delay further the release.  Now it's like counting the days when we were waiting on the Kingpins knowing we were getting close.  

Wow! Nice! I wonder how heavy it is. Look forward to temp reports once people start getting them.

 
Wow that's HUGE. Amazing. Gotta be at least 5lb with the rear block - I'd suggest vertical mounting. Unfortunately it's unlikely I'll ever get my hands on a 3090 KingPin, but it's nice to dream. :)
 
 

Just ordered mine.  Really pricey...over $800 Canadian, including shipping.  Thank you @Gotspeed for the heads up/PM.  Much appreciated.

zippytek

Gotspeed_2000I just ordered mines tonight as soon as I saw the post here about it being available to order.  I don't know how many people got in before me

 
got an order in for 2 of these monsters at 11:24 EST, couple friends around this time also. not looking like the 2x Kingpins will be going in a case with these blocks, so praxis it is. backplate looks insane, v excited
 
also kind of sad lol at the hydrocopper blocks now, i never even installed the kit on my hybrid. was planning on it in the next week or two. now i think it isn't even worth. tick tock

Oh nice!
 

My 3090KP is feeling a little sad at 50-52C+ temps while gaming with 27.9C water. I don’t understand it.

Dayum, kinda regret getting the KP Hydro copper for mine with this out finally.
But sheesh $600? My 3090 kp with this would equal the cost of my first watercooled pc build alone. Eager to see the temps on this monster, and probably would need make a vertical support for this thing as my HC right now sags a bit when vertically mounted. Not eager to tear down my loop again for this though.

I paid $400 for my FTW3 Optimus block.  I wonder what the additional $200 nets.
 
Edit:  Nevermind.  Active backplate.

tps34433
 
Optimus confirmed that the Kingpin has $150 more dollars in cost involved just for the addition of the top shelf Fujipoly thermal pads. Besides the thermal pads, the card has a 2nd waterblock on the back of it.

Ah, the upgrade in pads too, that's pretty awesome.  I currently have the EK Vector that I absolutely will not use (long story).  Can't wait until my Opti block comes.  Seriously envious of the KPE owners now though.  :-D

Whats the point of active back plate for additional $250-300 if it does not matter what the VRAM temp is as long as it is less than 90c? My FE does 80-82c (ambient 31c) while having +1500 on VRAM.

tps34433
First of all. 90C is hot lol. Hot to me anyways! What is your memory Tjunction temp?

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It is always fun how a $1500 FE can make people raise eyebrows and embarrass $2300+ MSRP GPUs, I provided TJ temp already.
 
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Fan at 65%, ambient 26c, VRAM 80c.
 
You said "The cooler is runs the better!", may I ask what does "better" mean? Higher hash rate? Higher efficiency? You sleep better?

Is this block really twice as good as the KP hydrocopper block???

 
Where did you get "twice as good" from? Are you basing that on price? The existing GPU block with XL back plate costs about $380. With the double sided block, it's $589, so it's not double the price, as anyone buying the original single block is also going to get the back plate. The new front & back blocks are effectively 2 separate GPU water blocks, so you're buying 'double' the number of GPU blocks, if that's what you mean ...so you can't expect it to be cheap.
 
The KingPin 3090 was designed for high performance water cooled overclocking (or chilled, or LN2, or even helium apparently), and if you'd done any due diligence you'd know that VRM cooling is an issue with the back side of these GPUs getting really hot. With water cooling, keeping it cooler enables higher clocks, therefore being able to address the high VRM temps with active cooling on the back side of the GPU is going to help run higher overall clocks. Is it going to double the overclock - obviously not. Is it going to enable achieving higher clocks - for sure.. and that is what these cards are for - enthusiasts who really want to push it to the limit.
 
 
 

Nereus
 
Where did you get "twice as good" from? Are you basing that on price? The existing GPU block with XL back plate costs about $380. With the double sided block, it's $589, so it's not double the price, as anyone buying the original single block is also going to get the back plate. The new front & back blocks are effectively 2 separate GPU water blocks, so you're buying 'double' the number of GPU blocks, if that's what you mean ...so you can't expect it to be cheap.
 
The KingPin 3090 was designed for high performance water cooled overclocking (or chilled, or LN2, or even helium apparently), and if you'd done any due diligence you'd know that VRM cooling is an issue with the back side of these GPUs getting really hot. With water cooling, keeping it cooler enables higher clocks, therefore being able to address the high VRM temps with active cooling on the back side of the GPU is going to help run higher overall clocks. Is it going to double the overclock - obviously not. Is it going to enable achieving higher clocks - for sure.. and that is what these cards are for - enthusiasts who really want to push it to the limit.
 
 
 

redteamgo

Nereus
Where did you get "twice as good" from? Are you basing that on price? The existing GPU block with XL back plate costs about $380. With the double sided block, it's $589, so it's not double the price, as anyone buying the original single block is also going to get the back plate. The new front & back blocks are effectively 2 separate GPU water blocks, so you're buying 'double' the number of GPU blocks, if that's what you mean ...so you can't expect it to be cheap.

The KingPin 3090 was designed for high performance water cooled overclocking (or chilled, or LN2, or even helium apparently), and if you'd done any due diligence you'd know that VRM cooling is an issue with the back side of these GPUs getting really hot. With water cooling, keeping it cooler enables higher clocks, therefore being able to address the high VRM temps with active cooling on the back side of the GPU is going to help run higher overall clocks. Is it going to double the overclock - obviously not. Is it going to enable achieving higher clocks - for sure.. and that is what these cards are for - enthusiasts who really want to push it to the limit.

yes , price was the back of the envelope metric for what I posted. For twice the money I would want twice the performance or thereabouts when considering diminishing returns. Did you get one? I’d love to see a HC vs optimus comparison.
 
e: and just to be clear.  The 1999 hydrocopper kit for the kingpin hybrid from EVGA was ~ $300.  this one is ~ $600.

Twice the money = twice the performance you say? Ok then, on that basis, not having a water block would mean a card with 0MHz clock? Awesome. See the problem with that statement now? ..lol, as I said previously, you're effectively paying for a 2nd GPU block, and the materials and labor and profit margin required to make that block. Nobody else claimed 'twice the performance', and it would seem to be an intentionally obtuse statement. Increased performance certainly, particularly with mem clocks, but until the blocks come out we don't really know exactly how much of a difference it will make.
 
I have not been able to get my hands on either of the 3090 KingPins (AiO or Hydrocopper) although I am on the notify list, but based on the current rate of movement it's going to be near a decade before my name comes up (not kidding), and I refuse to pay scalper prices for one. IF I had been lucky enough to get a KP 3090, I would have got the Optimus block initially, and added the active back cooling block too. Unfortunately I was unable to get onto the product page for a couple of hours at launch/open notify, so I missed out.
 
Comparing with EVGA on price alone - sure; EVGA KP block (p/n 400-HC-1999-B1) is $300. Optimus is $600 and it is effectively 2 blocks. That answers that one.