It's too much lol. 40-62% higher price on 5090/4090 and 5080/4080S is nuts. I paid $1599 for a 4090. They want to just add $1K. Madness.

B0baganoosh
It's too much lol. 40-62% higher price on 5090/4090 and 5080/4080S is nuts. I paid $1599 for a 4090. They want to just add $1K. Madness.

I agree.
 

Cool GTX
There are people willing to stand in queue to buy ... just to say they have the "latest & greatest toy"
 
To the average gamer will it really matter?
 
I'd wait for 3rd party reviews on actual performance & to see if the power connection issue has truly been resolved
 
on the flip side looks like the value of the last generation of cards should not just fall off a cliff in price

Yeah. I plan to wait until after the first few months to pick one up. Gotta see if the plugs are going to meltdown. 

My only thought is and a few words I can't type here , someone has lost their mind
 

 

Pricing of RTX 5090 laptops will likely exceed $10,000

If this is the case ill just settle buying a new gen AMD graphics card from my 6800XT. No way will I let my wallet get steam rolled by nVidia like that.

donta1979
I will be skipping it, 30-37% increase over a 4090 is a lot yet it's not when you get DLAA+PT involved or move up to Super Ultrawide to 4k and yeet your graphical settings. I can play anything at 3440x1440 right now smoothly even with DLAA+PT enabled moving to a 5090 would not net me much with my settings I prefer. So it's the waiting game at this point.

Probably a smart idea. If the 5090 turns out the be $2599 expect the 6090 to be $3000 to $3500.

So $2k for the FE 5090. 400 buck increase. 5070 has 4090 performance for 500 bucks... We shall see about that.

Nozler

Sajin
So $2k for the FE 5090. 400 buck increase. 5070 has 4090 performance for 500 bucks... We shall see about that.

Thats what I'm waiting to see my cpu won't take anymore the 5070 will be a stretching bottleneck

Frame generation will help you bypass the bottleneck.

Yeah, 4x frame generation is likely the only way the 5080 will even be as fast as the 4090 lol, let alone the 5070.
 
I get that frame generation is kind of neat sometimes. The only game I've tried it in is CP2077 and it just feels weird to me. It doesn't double the FPS by any means and it makes it feel...floaty? I don't know how to describe it, but I wasn't a fan. Not sure doing 4x FG would be an improvement on that. For most games...it seems like you'd be limited to the other DLSS capabilities and if you just look at native or Native+RT, I don't think there's going to be huge gains from 4000-series to 5000-series. Maybe 20-40% depending on the title and if RT is used. I still don't think 5080 beats a 4090 (without MFG) and the only big jump in specs in the whole stack is the $2k 5090 that has a 575W rating. So that improvement is reeeeeeeeeally brute-forced lol. I'm not always opposed to that, personally, but I do start to wonder at what point I need to worry about what else is on the breaker with my gaming PC. 

kraade
I wana see what it will Port Royal, My Prediction is 31880

It might do a little better than that. Maybe 33k stock. Just giving 20% increase from my best 4090 score lol.

I remember the 4090 being a solid 60% faster than 3090 TI in 4k, you would this the 5090 would do the same :)

Saw this article with some leaked 3DMark scores.
 
The leak gives the 5090 a Time Spy Extreme score of "24000+" and Speedway: "13500+".
Stock scores for 4090 were ~19000 for Time Spy Extreme and ~9950 for Speedway. That's +26% for non-RT and about +35.7% for the RT benchmark. That's pretty much where I predicted lol.
 
If you ignore MFG: it's +26 to 36% performance uplift for +25% price and +28% power. i.e. little to no change in performance/price from 4090. Edit: Same goes for perf/watt.
 
Also, the article looks at the scores of overclocked 4090's (there's an update with stock scores) from 3DMark's hall of fame, indicating that the 5090 (assuming stock) is ~5.3% faster than one of the fastest 4090's ever in TSE and ~8% faster than the fastest 4090 in Speedway.
 
The article stops there, but I was curious, so I looked at those stock 4090 numbers vs the fastest 3090ti scores...there was a ~30% increase in TSE and ~39% increase in Speedway from the fastest 3090ti to a stock 4090. That gets even more drastic when you consider the stock 4090 is likely running at lower power levels than those overclocked 3090ti's and you cannot say that for the stock 5090 vs overclocked 4090's. 
 
We still have to wait for real reviews (grains of salt required for leaks lol), but all the current information indicates that this is a generation for AI improvements, not aimed at gamers. The AI improvements can help with frame gen...but for most gaming purposes, it's just slight improvements over 4000-series.

B0baganoosh
Saw this article with some leaked 3DMark scores.
 
The leak gives the 5090 a Time Spy Extreme score of "24000+" and Speedway: "13500+".
Stock scores for 4090 were ~19000 for Time Spy Extreme and ~9950 for Speedway. That's +26% for non-RT and about +35.7% for the RT benchmark. That's pretty much where I predicted lol.
 
If you ignore MFG: it's +26 to 36% performance uplift for +25% price and +28% power. i.e. little to no change in performance/price from 4090. Edit: Same goes for perf/watt.
 
Also, the article looks at the scores of overclocked 4090's (there's an update with stock scores) from 3DMark's hall of fame, indicating that the 5090 (assuming stock) is ~5.3% faster than one of the fastest 4090's ever in TSE and ~8% faster than the fastest 4090 in Speedway.
 
The article stops there, but I was curious, so I looked at those stock 4090 numbers vs the fastest 3090ti scores...there was a ~30% increase in TSE and ~39% increase in Speedway from the fastest 3090ti to a stock 4090. That gets even more drastic when you consider the stock 4090 is likely running at lower power levels than those overclocked 3090ti's and you cannot say that for the stock 5090 vs overclocked 4090's. 
 
We still have to wait for real reviews (grains of salt required for leaks lol), but all the current information indicates that this is a generation for AI improvements, not aimed at gamers. The AI improvements can help with frame gen...but for most gaming purposes, it's just slight improvements over 4000-series.

Not good :(

Flybye

Viper453

B0baganoosh
Saw this article with some leaked 3DMark scores.
 
The leak gives the 5090 a Time Spy Extreme score of "24000+" and Speedway: "13500+".
Stock scores for 4090 were ~19000 for Time Spy Extreme and ~9950 for Speedway. That's +26% for non-RT and about +35.7% for the RT benchmark. That's pretty much where I predicted lol.
 
If you ignore MFG: it's +26 to 36% performance uplift for +25% price and +28% power. i.e. little to no change in performance/price from 4090. Edit: Same goes for perf/watt.
 
Also, the article looks at the scores of overclocked 4090's (there's an update with stock scores) from 3DMark's hall of fame, indicating that the 5090 (assuming stock) is ~5.3% faster than one of the fastest 4090's ever in TSE and ~8% faster than the fastest 4090 in Speedway.
 
The article stops there, but I was curious, so I looked at those stock 4090 numbers vs the fastest 3090ti scores...there was a ~30% increase in TSE and ~39% increase in Speedway from the fastest 3090ti to a stock 4090. That gets even more drastic when you consider the stock 4090 is likely running at lower power levels than those overclocked 3090ti's and you cannot say that for the stock 5090 vs overclocked 4090's. 
 
We still have to wait for real reviews (grains of salt required for leaks lol), but all the current information indicates that this is a generation for AI improvements, not aimed at gamers. The AI improvements can help with frame gen...but for most gaming purposes, it's just slight improvements over 4000-series.

Not good :(

I see now why people are calling it the AI gen cards. Not a lot of raw power; just fake projection. It's like being in a running race and using a selfie stick to hold a picture of yourself 5 feet in front of you.

.....yep