ZKoomah
The card runs hot, really hot and it's a combination of the chip itself and the 2 slot design. Idle temps stay at 55 with a custom fan curve but there's no zero fan idling for me.

ZKoomah
I hit thermal limits before hitting power limits. I have it set to +195/450 and it peaks at 2070 but hovers around 1890 - 1920 depending on the game. I've tried upping the core clock by 30 but I get instability so I may have lost the silicon lottery on this one since I've seen some people hit 2100 with proper cooling.

ZKoomah

bigc4200
I checked my email  label created 26th shipped on 27th. kind of waste I spent 29.00 3 day shipping free would have arrived same time.
I can always eat next week...lol  
I was hoping to get my late x-mas present and use it I have the 1st off oh well life goes on will read up little more.
 
So i still was wondering what is the power limit with these cards??
I know evga does not want to take away from xc and ultra sales understandably..
Does anyone who has the card have any feedback temps? oc potential? hitting pl?
thanks 
 

Awww man, that sucks. I ordered mine on the 26th and got next day air, it arrived before noon on the 27th. The card runs hot, really hot and it's a combination of the chip itself and the 2 slot design. Idle temps stay at 55 with a custom fan curve but there's no zero fan idling for me. I hit thermal limits before hitting power limits. I have it set to +195/450 and it peaks at 2070 but hovers around 1890 - 1920 depending on the game. I've tried upping the core clock by 30 but I get instability so I may have lost the silicon lottery on this one since I've seen some people hit 2100 with proper cooling. I've been getting random crashes in game as well, no artifacting, just crashes so I'm going to try to dial down my OC even more to see if it keeps happening. Still though, even with all the issues, I'm happy with the way the card is performing and the design, which I originally disliked, grew on me after I had it in the case for less than a day. 

ZKoomah
...It's the chip itself, it runs way hotter than Pascal...With the 2080 TI Black, you're trading off thermal performance for a smaller and cost efficient card...

If you were planning to go custom cooling anyway, then it should alleviate most of the thermal issues...The non-A chips have a power limit so even if you alleviate the thermal issues, the OC you'll get will have less of a ceiling than the A chips.

nobuo780
...So black is 1099 now...

bigc4200
Wow that is kinda scumbag move to raise price on black also...This card is not worth more than 999.00...

Flonkam
For what I'm about to describe, the only reason that occurs to me is the high value of the GPUs involved. But for that to make much sense, someone is going to have to let me know whether EVGA has always done this for say, $1,000+ cards. What am I talking about?
 
Well, I'm first struck by the fact that the box in which the 2080 Ti BE resides is approximately 2.5 times the volume of the boxes I've always received my cards in, from the GTX 260 to the 980 ti. The next thing I discover after removing the outer cardboard box is that the clear plastic "clamshell" in which, again, my cards have traditionally been seated has been replaced with a combination of a thick corrugated cardboard box and custom-cut foam interior. It's the way PSUs are often packaged. I suppose it's worth mentioning that a bevel was designed into one corner of the box for reasons beyond my ken, which actually makes it impossible to remove or insert the foam block without first inserting one end, pushing it under the bevel, and then pushing the other end down.
 
So...I have the largest, most leveled-up, beveled-up Packinging System TM I've ever received a card in, and yet for the first time ever since purchasing a new GTX 260 for $230 and a second new GTX 260 for $180, the only thing I find inside the box is a GPU and only a GPU. Well, that's not true--there is a small piece of paper with installation instructions on it.
 
As far as the lack of accessories, I assume this is a cost-reduction effort for the Black Edition, even though it doesn't seem like EVGA's cost for the usual items could be more than $5. But I'm wondering about the packaging. Have the really, really expensive cards always been packaged like this? Without a doubt the cost of this packaging is substantially more than the flexible cardboard & clamshell packaging I'm used to. A lot more protective, as well.
 
Does anyone know whether other manufacturers have changed their packaging? Could it mean that these models are more fragile in some way?