comrade
SSC Member
- Total Posts : 711
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 4/3/2008
- Location: Streamwood, Illinois USA
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 4
Re:EVGA X79 Dark
Monday, July 15, 2013 12:52 AM
(permalink)
Nereus
That's a wee bit dramatic and exaggerated imho....
Not if you happened to be one of those unlucky ones who received one, (or two, or three, or more), defective, non-working motherboards!
Gigabyte TRX40 Aorus Pro WiFi Amd sTRX4 ATX MB, AMD Ryzen 9 Threadripper 3960x, EVGA RTX 3090 FTW3 ULTRA HYBRID GAMING, 24G-P5-3988-KR, twin - 28" 3840 x 2160 Monitors, Samsung 980 Pro 2TB, M2 NVME SSD for OS, 3x2 TB Samsung 980 Pro SSD's for storage, Samsung SH-203 SATA DVD Drive, Coolermaster 1000 Watt PSU, Win 11 Pro, Coolermaster HAF 932 Advanced case. EVGA Z20 Gaming Keyboard, Razer Orochi 2013 Mouse.
|
Ravenmaster
SSC Member
- Total Posts : 747
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 10/25/2008
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 7
Re:EVGA X79 Dark
Monday, July 15, 2013 4:28 PM
(permalink)
EVGA_JacobF
dustingg
@Jacob,
When will the Dark be available on the EVGA web site?
Original schedule was early to mid July, but it is looking closer to Mid July right now.
And it's the 15th July now. I called it a while back and said the EVGA X79 Dark would release in September along with the new Ivy-Bridge E chips. So you guys are proving me right 
Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Dark Hero | Intel Core i9-14900KF | RTX 4090 FE | 2x32GB Corsair Dominator Titanium DDR5 RAM (7200mhz) | 2x Samsung 990 Pro 4TB M.2 NVMe's for main OS and backup) | Windows 11 Pro 64-bit 23H2 |Klipsch 5.1.2 Dolby Atmos speakers + Denon AVR-X2800H Receiver | LG 42" C2 OLED | EVGA ASSOCIATE CODE: JRKV0L1B1GY3ADW 
|
CAxVIPER
CLASSIFIED Member
- Total Posts : 2710
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 8/24/2011
- Location: South FL
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 5
Re:EVGA X79 Dark
Monday, July 15, 2013 5:20 PM
(permalink)
btarp
Two questions: Is this board going to actually be capable of PCI-E 3.0 unlike the other x79's? Is it going to have all 40 lanes for PCI-E unlike your other x79's?
Most x79 boards are capable of PCIe 3. If you are asking out of the box with no hack then no. No you have 32 lanes according another post by Jacob and by the spec sheet which shows only 32 lanes available. 1x16/2x16/3x8/4x8 even though with 3 it still should run x16/x8/x8. Not sure why you lose 8 PCIe lanes just because you are in 3 way sli but it is the way evga has it laid out.
|
dustingg
FTW Member
- Total Posts : 1649
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 4/19/2012
- Location: Newport beach CA
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 7
Re:EVGA X79 Dark
Monday, July 15, 2013 5:36 PM
(permalink)
Guys seriously, It doesn't matter how many 16x lanes you have. Unless you are running x16x16 2way SLI if your running tri or quad SLI your going to have to run a 8x slot. Once you have a card in a 8x slot your entire SLI array is all going to be running at 8x speed. Just like RAM. if you have 4 dimms in and one is 1600 and the other 3 dimms run at 2400. your going to be running at 1600 the slowest speed of the lot. Same goes for SLI arrays.
post edited by dustingg - Wednesday, July 17, 2013 6:37 PM
|
Nereus
Captain Goodvibes
- Total Posts : 18192
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 4/10/2009
- Location: Brooklyn, NYC.
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 58
Re:EVGA X79 Dark
Monday, July 15, 2013 9:24 PM
(permalink)
dustingg
Guys seriously,
It doesn't matter how many 16x lanes you have. Unless you are running x16x16 2way SLI
if your running tri or quad SLI your going to have to run a 8x slot.
Once you have a card in a 8x slot your entire SLI array is all going to by running at 8x speed.
Just like RAM. if you have 4 dimms in and one is 1600 and the other 3 dimms run at 2400. your going to be running at 1600 the slowest speed of the lot. Same goes for SLI arrays.
Just out of interest.. if you had 2 cards in SLI and then a 3rd card as dedicated physx, will that change things? Meaning, will the 2 cards in SLI still run at x16 if the 3rd physx card is in a x8 slot?
|
VagueRant
SSC Member
- Total Posts : 711
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 12/7/2009
- Location: NC
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 3
Re:EVGA X79 Dark
Monday, July 15, 2013 10:21 PM
(permalink)
btarp
Two questions: Is this board going to actually be capable of PCI-E 3.0 unlike the other x79's? Is it going to have all 40 lanes for PCI-E unlike your other x79's?
EVGA_JacobF
Its 40 this time around.
^^ http://forums.evga.com/fb.ashx?m=1967105
3930K - Evga X79 Dark - Corsair CMZ16GX3M4X1866C9R - 2xEvga 780 Classifieds in Sli Corsair H100 w/AP15 GentleTyphoons - Samsung 256GB 840 Pro SSD - Corsair AX850 - CM Storm Trooper BenQ XL2420TX & XL2420T Monitors in Surround - Logitech G502, Razer Orbweaver Stealth & Razer Blackwidow 
|
dustingg
FTW Member
- Total Posts : 1649
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 4/19/2012
- Location: Newport beach CA
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 7
Re:EVGA X79 Dark
Tuesday, July 16, 2013 2:19 AM
(permalink)
Nereus
dustingg
Guys seriously,
It doesn't matter how many 16x lanes you have. Unless you are running x16x16 2way SLI
if your running tri or quad SLI your going to have to run a 8x slot.
Once you have a card in a 8x slot your entire SLI array is all going to by running at 8x speed.
Just like RAM. if you have 4 dimms in and one is 1600 and the other 3 dimms run at 2400. your going to be running at 1600 the slowest speed of the lot. Same goes for SLI arrays.
Just out of interest.. if you had 2 cards in SLI and then a 3rd card as dedicated physx, will that change things? Meaning, will the 2 cards in SLI still run at x16 if the 3rd physx card is in a x8 slot?
No, I used to run a 690 in 2way sli x16 and I ran a 680 as a dedicated physX card. Because the 680 was not in the SLI array and ran on its own it did not affect the SLI array.
|
Nereus
Captain Goodvibes
- Total Posts : 18192
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 4/10/2009
- Location: Brooklyn, NYC.
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 58
Re:EVGA X79 Dark
Tuesday, July 16, 2013 2:57 AM
(permalink)
|
Ravenmaster
SSC Member
- Total Posts : 747
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 10/25/2008
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 7
Re:EVGA X79 Dark
Wednesday, July 17, 2013 2:52 PM
(permalink)
You'd have thought, with it being this late in the game where x79 is coming to the end of its life, EVGA would have at least stuck 2 plx chips on this board so ppl can at least run all their cards at 16x. Coz otherwise, this mobo really doesn't have anything special to offer over other brands.
Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Dark Hero | Intel Core i9-14900KF | RTX 4090 FE | 2x32GB Corsair Dominator Titanium DDR5 RAM (7200mhz) | 2x Samsung 990 Pro 4TB M.2 NVMe's for main OS and backup) | Windows 11 Pro 64-bit 23H2 |Klipsch 5.1.2 Dolby Atmos speakers + Denon AVR-X2800H Receiver | LG 42" C2 OLED | EVGA ASSOCIATE CODE: JRKV0L1B1GY3ADW
|
CAxVIPER
CLASSIFIED Member
- Total Posts : 2710
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 8/24/2011
- Location: South FL
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 5
Re:EVGA X79 Dark
Wednesday, July 17, 2013 3:09 PM
(permalink)
Ravenmaster
You'd have thought, with it being this late in the game where x79 is coming to the end of its life, EVGA would have at least stuck 2 plx chips on this board so ppl can at least run all their cards at 16x. Coz otherwise, this mobo really doesn't have anything special to offer over other brands.
You would also be adding another $100 for those
|
Halo_003
Omnipotent Enthusiast
- Total Posts : 10297
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 3/21/2009
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 51
Re:EVGA X79 Dark
Wednesday, July 17, 2013 3:09 PM
(permalink)
Man this board can not come soon enough. @ Jacob/EVGA.. WTB 1st Day cross ship option. Will pay $$$. 
i7 7700K - ASUS Maximus IX Apex - 16GB G.Skill TridentZ RGB 3466MHz C16 - 5700 XT 50th Anniversary
|
bdary
Omnipotent Enthusiast
- Total Posts : 10626
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 4/25/2008
- Location: Florida
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 118
|
Halo_003
Omnipotent Enthusiast
- Total Posts : 10297
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 3/21/2009
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 51
Re:EVGA X79 Dark
Wednesday, July 17, 2013 3:49 PM
(permalink)
 Just called, looks like cross ship is a no go. Since it's technically considered a stepup.  Jacob, will you guys at least match the shipping method used? If I ship 1 day, will you? Kinda frustrated on this, I work on this system and literally can not afford downtime.  Edit: Next day air is $117. Are you kidding me? 
post edited by Halo_003 - Wednesday, July 17, 2013 3:59 PM
i7 7700K - ASUS Maximus IX Apex - 16GB G.Skill TridentZ RGB 3466MHz C16 - 5700 XT 50th Anniversary
|
CAxVIPER
CLASSIFIED Member
- Total Posts : 2710
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 8/24/2011
- Location: South FL
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 5
Re:EVGA X79 Dark
Wednesday, July 17, 2013 5:15 PM
(permalink)
|
Halo_003
Omnipotent Enthusiast
- Total Posts : 10297
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 3/21/2009
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 51
Re:EVGA X79 Dark
Wednesday, July 17, 2013 6:16 PM
(permalink)
i7 7700K - ASUS Maximus IX Apex - 16GB G.Skill TridentZ RGB 3466MHz C16 - 5700 XT 50th Anniversary
|
lordshinro
FTW Member
- Total Posts : 1354
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 5/9/2008
- Location: Please use my Affiliate code too!: >6H97CUPJJZ<
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 8
Re:EVGA X79 Dark
Wednesday, July 17, 2013 6:21 PM
(permalink)
Or buy a EVGA X79 FTW and use that. When you're ready to return it open a claim under "Defective". This way you won't get charged a fee and technically you aren't lying as ALL of the X79 series are defective (pre dark, but that remains to be seen)
|
btarp
New Member
- Total Posts : 87
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 9/14/2007
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 0
Re:EVGA X79 Dark
Thursday, July 18, 2013 7:57 PM
(permalink)
How about PCI-E 3.0? I suppose it still fails miserably. What was the point of the x79 black again? It sounds like you practically fixed nothing at all except the lack of all 40 PCI-E lanes. PCI-e 3.0. had better be fully supported on the x79 dark or" that dog don't hunt" and you will lose a lot more business.
post edited by btarp - Thursday, July 18, 2013 8:08 PM
|
btarp
New Member
- Total Posts : 87
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 9/14/2007
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 0
Re:EVGA X79 Dark
Thursday, July 18, 2013 8:01 PM
(permalink)
Ok, and so does PCI-E 3.0 work now? I gotta tell u, this classified is a straight-up hunk of junk when I try to run Pci-3.0. So, what about 3.0.?
post edited by btarp - Thursday, July 18, 2013 8:06 PM
|
EVGA_JacobF
EVGA Alumni
- Total Posts : 11559
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 1/17/2006
- Location: Brea, CA
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 26
Re:EVGA X79 Dark
Thursday, July 18, 2013 11:10 PM
(permalink)
Yes, PCI-E compatibility is dramatically improved. It has to do with optimizing the layout, and also the lack of bridge chips helps with this too.
|
Halo_003
Omnipotent Enthusiast
- Total Posts : 10297
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 3/21/2009
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 51
Re:EVGA X79 Dark
Friday, July 19, 2013 2:23 AM
(permalink)
What about XMP and RAM clocks Jacob? It was quite a pain to get 2400MHz running.
Also, when changing the Bclk frequency for OC'ing... (100MHz to 125MHz for example) is it like this?
Set to 125MHz from 100MHz, F4 to save and exit
Next boot is ALWAYS an FC post code
Power off, then back on and it works
That's how it is for me when changing blck on an X79 Classified.
i7 7700K - ASUS Maximus IX Apex - 16GB G.Skill TridentZ RGB 3466MHz C16 - 5700 XT 50th Anniversary
|
tonschk
Superclocked Member
- Total Posts : 179
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 8/23/2010
- Location: LONDON UK
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 1
Re:EVGA X79 Dark
Friday, July 19, 2013 8:48 AM
(permalink)
Nereus
llcoolveer
...47biosses is imo 30 to much,and in my case the usb firm was after the update still rubish or even worse....it's not competative at all,the other brands are way ahead....
Not meaning to be a personal attack on your comment, but I know for sure that if EVGA didn't do updates as often as they do, there would be plenty of complaints saying they didn't care about their customers because they take so long to update the BIOS.. in fact that has happened with this very series I believe. Personally I would rather have regular and relatively frequent updates than a rare update once in a blue moon. On the occasion over the last 5 years or so when NVidia have gone for a long period between WHQL updates, there has been huge criticism... they can't please everybody I guess, but can't say I've heard many people criticize EVGA for updating BIOS too often... only the opposite.
Good luck with your board anyway. I agree with Nereus.
post edited by tonschk - Friday, July 19, 2013 9:07 AM
PC Power&Cooling 910W Silencer, I just LOVE this high quality and built to last PSU
|
ViperBlackEdition
iCX Member
- Total Posts : 261
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 6/15/2009
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 0
Re:EVGA X79 Dark
Friday, July 19, 2013 10:36 AM
(permalink)
EVGA Should just come out and say the Dark will be out the same time as IB-E.
|
dustingg
FTW Member
- Total Posts : 1649
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 4/19/2012
- Location: Newport beach CA
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 7
Re:EVGA X79 Dark
Friday, July 19, 2013 2:26 PM
(permalink)
Grrrrrrrrr I hope not... I'm about to get a Gigabyte if so...
|
EVGA_JacobF
EVGA Alumni
- Total Posts : 11559
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 1/17/2006
- Location: Brea, CA
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 26
Re:EVGA X79 Dark
Saturday, July 20, 2013 1:10 AM
(permalink)
Halo_003
What about XMP and RAM clocks Jacob? It was quite a pain to get 2400MHz running.
Also, when changing the Bclk frequency for OC'ing... (100MHz to 125MHz for example) is it like this?
Set to 125MHz from 100MHz, F4 to save and exit
Next boot is ALWAYS an FC post code
Power off, then back on and it works
That's how it is for me when changing blck on an X79 Classified.
Yes, big improvements for XMP and memory overclocking/compatibility.
|
Halo_003
Omnipotent Enthusiast
- Total Posts : 10297
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 3/21/2009
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 51
Re:EVGA X79 Dark
Saturday, July 20, 2013 3:01 AM
(permalink)
i7 7700K - ASUS Maximus IX Apex - 16GB G.Skill TridentZ RGB 3466MHz C16 - 5700 XT 50th Anniversary
|
KimbaWLion
iCX Member
- Total Posts : 412
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 7/1/2010
- Location: Philadelphia, PA
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 1
Re:EVGA X79 Dark
Sunday, July 21, 2013 5:34 PM
(permalink)
Well July is JUST about over so I guess August now? Just asking..
And Yes I know it will come out when it comes out...
Lian Li O11 EVO XL ll Intel 14900K ll Asrock Nova MB ll Samsung 990 2TB ll WD 850N 4TB ll Toshiba 8gb hdd ll NZXT Kracken Elite 360 ll 64GB Corsair Platinum Dominator ll EVGA 3080 TI ll Asus Rog Loki SFX 850 PSU 
|
Nereus
Captain Goodvibes
- Total Posts : 18192
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 4/10/2009
- Location: Brooklyn, NYC.
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 58
Re:EVGA X79 Dark
Sunday, July 21, 2013 6:01 PM
(permalink)
I was hoping it would be out this weekend. Maybe Monday?
|
ViperBlackEdition
iCX Member
- Total Posts : 261
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 6/15/2009
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 0
Re:EVGA X79 Dark
Sunday, July 21, 2013 6:03 PM
(permalink)
Why bring it out now when EVGA can tie it in with IB-E release. Wouldn't surprise me if their marketing department is working on it.
|
CAxVIPER
CLASSIFIED Member
- Total Posts : 2710
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 8/24/2011
- Location: South FL
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 5
Re:EVGA X79 Dark
Sunday, July 21, 2013 6:15 PM
(permalink)
ViperBlackEdition
Why bring it out now when EVGA can tie it in with IB-E release. Wouldn't surprise me if their marketing department is working on it.
Because what good does it do them? EVGA already has ES samples of IB-E and i'm sure they already tested and made sure it works. No one else is bringing out a new x79 mobo because it doesn't do any good.
|
Nereus
Captain Goodvibes
- Total Posts : 18192
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 4/10/2009
- Location: Brooklyn, NYC.
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 58
Re:EVGA X79 Dark
Sunday, July 21, 2013 6:37 PM
(permalink)
Plus far better imho to get it out there in advance so it can be tested and found to be as good as we all hope.. that way there's no doubts lingering when the new chips come out.
|