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Re: EVGA RTX 2080 Ti K|NGP|N (HC Waterblock) Water/Chiller/Sub Zero Cooling Club 2019/06/22 12:22:25 (permalink)
Will that not leave an air gap between the Copper Top and the CPU PCB for Frost to build up?

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Re: EVGA RTX 2080 Ti K|NGP|N (HC Waterblock) Water/Chiller/Sub Zero Cooling Club 2019/06/22 12:37:07 (permalink)
Sure it could. But I am going to vaso and TIM we will see transpires. I don't like glue. that particular 9900K that will be tortured  is on my S list anyway. When it dies its going on the wall of shame next to the Z390 Aorus Master it shipped with @ 9900k launch... Ive never hated a pairing of components but the sum of those two are less than their value individually... I am triggered just thinking about it. 6 months of tweaking that garbage in an endless cycle of lowering expectations and bios updates that are worse than the previous versions. I will never forget the SHAME GB brought to my bench... BOO HISS BOO
 
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Re: EVGA RTX 2080 Ti K|NGP|N (HC Waterblock) Water/Chiller/Sub Zero Cooling Club 2019/06/22 12:45:15 (permalink)
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Re: EVGA RTX 2080 Ti K|NGP|N (HC Waterblock) Water/Chiller/Sub Zero Cooling Club 2019/06/22 12:58:36 (permalink)
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Im glad im not the only one with Mem1 temps being higher then everything else, Kind of makes me wonder if EK or Bitspower are making a block for the KPE.




I don't know about Bitspower, hopefully they do... but with EK they do not have plans to make one, at least not yet based on their website. I doubt we will see them honestly, they probably see the KPE as being too limited to bother. I was holding out hope for an EK or BP block but it looks like my KPE will most likely stay on the stock CLC. Maybe if EVGA drops the price of the KPE block to $199 or less I'll bite the bullet but that's not likely. Based purely on principle I refuse to pay that kind of cash for a block of that kind of (questionable) quality.


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Re: EVGA RTX 2080 Ti K|NGP|N (HC Waterblock) Water/Chiller/Sub Zero Cooling Club 2019/06/22 13:15:11 (permalink)
I'm not convinced that bullet is worth biting atm... Johnksss HC dripped water all over his rig... I have multiples of EK & Heatkiller VGA blocks and non of them have ever done that.
 
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Re: EVGA RTX 2080 Ti K|NGP|N (HC Waterblock) Water/Chiller/Sub Zero Cooling Club 2019/06/22 13:23:24 (permalink)
And why I got a backup block.

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Re: EVGA RTX 2080 Ti K|NGP|N (HC Waterblock) Water/Chiller/Sub Zero Cooling Club 2019/06/22 13:41:44 (permalink)
Random question for those that are sub-zero cooling, what brand of thermometer are you guys using? Any recommendations? I know Flukes are good but their price tags aren’t good lol Also not sure all can read temps for anything below -40ish C? I see some on Amazon for like 20-30 bucks but I’m not sure if they read accurately or are reliable
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Re: EVGA RTX 2080 Ti K|NGP|N (HC Waterblock) Water/Chiller/Sub Zero Cooling Club 2019/06/22 13:45:07 (permalink)
Mine is garbo but was only 40$. Probably will just buy a fluke. But was going to try K|NGP|N's K-types first. It randomly gets off by 40c. When I need it to be a bit more accurate. IDK though maybe its user error or bad thermocouples in my case.
 
The one I am using is recommended by other OCers and is used in competition so maybe its just me.
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Re: EVGA RTX 2080 Ti K|NGP|N (HC Waterblock) Water/Chiller/Sub Zero Cooling Club 2019/06/22 13:52:06 (permalink)
Gotcha. So is the accuracy more in the type of probe used or the thermometer itself?? From my understanding all K-types will be good for anything down to -200C regardless of thermometer. Or do both matter?
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Re: EVGA RTX 2080 Ti K|NGP|N (HC Waterblock) Water/Chiller/Sub Zero Cooling Club 2019/06/22 13:53:24 (permalink)
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And why I got a backup block.


Shh BCav you probably bought that backup cause you are going to buy another RTX KPE. I'm just saying...

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Re: EVGA RTX 2080 Ti K|NGP|N (HC Waterblock) Water/Chiller/Sub Zero Cooling Club 2019/06/22 13:57:53 (permalink)
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Gotcha. So is the accuracy more in the type of probe used or the thermometer itself?? From my understanding all K-types will be good for anything down to -200C regardless of thermometer. Or do both matter?



This was also my understanding. But now I know either the Thermometer or the K-type is not suffecient for the task at hand.

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Re: EVGA RTX 2080 Ti K|NGP|N (HC Waterblock) Water/Chiller/Sub Zero Cooling Club 2019/06/22 14:30:34 (permalink)
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Gotcha. So is the accuracy more in the type of probe used or the thermometer itself?? From my understanding all K-types will be good for anything down to -200C regardless of thermometer. Or do both matter?



This was also my understanding. But now I know either the Thermometer or the K-type is not suffecient for the task at hand.


Okay. Base on the OCN forums there’s a PerfectPrime Thermometer for 32 bucks that people have reported will read down to -200 with the right probes. Think I’ll give that thermo a shot and pick up some Kingpin k-type probes when I buy my Tek-9 icon. I think I’ve found my max performance with my stock cooler and am ready to get frosty. Great scores btw Zedd!! Was that with LN2 or DICE?
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Re: EVGA RTX 2080 Ti K|NGP|N (HC Waterblock) Water/Chiller/Sub Zero Cooling Club 2019/06/22 15:30:49 (permalink)
I am now seeing the GPU PCB Temperatures running closer to MEM1 @ 42°C and 44°C @ 99% Load pushing 330 Watts non-stop for the last few days.
Peeking at 400+ Watts as shown in one of the Images Below.
Running Moo! Really Pushing the Graphics Card Overall the Computer is pushing just under 590 Watts using Only the GPU, no CPU Tasks Running.
Pushing a Solid 2040MHz 1.050 Volts and 99% Utilization
Maybe the KPE Hydro Copper Water Block just need a little longer Break-In Time. GPU1 39°C & GPU2 40°C Coolant @ 26°C Flow 3.7 LPM Room 21°C
Flow is from the Out on the GPU so I guess I could test the Flow going into the GPU to see the Difference if any. The Flow is the Same.
It is not about how high or low but how close they are together now as before the GPU PCB Temp was 40°C and MEM1 was 50°C or so.
Using a Standard Custom Water Loop, Separate from the CPU Custom Water Loop.
I added a Flow Meter and a Coolant Temperature Sensor.



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Re: EVGA RTX 2080 Ti K|NGP|N (HC Waterblock) Water/Chiller/Sub Zero Cooling Club 2019/06/22 15:42:19 (permalink)
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Im glad im not the only one with Mem1 temps being higher then everything else, Kind of makes me wonder if EK or Bitspower are making a block for the KPE.


When I get home I'm going to be doing some custom thermal pads. I've noticed when I had mine back apart some of the indents where the memory and thermal pads meet and vrms and thermal pads don't seem to be very uniform. Looks to me like some need thicker and some thinner to be more uniform.

Im going to change my thermal paste in a few weeks, ill probably see what i can come up with on pads too.

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Re: EVGA RTX 2080 Ti K|NGP|N (HC Waterblock) Water/Chiller/Sub Zero Cooling Club 2019/06/22 16:07:03 (permalink)
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Okay. Base on the OCN forums there’s a PerfectPrime Thermometer for 32 bucks that people have reported will read down to -200 with the right probes. Think I’ll give that thermo a shot and pick up some Kingpin k-type probes when I buy my Tek-9 icon. I think I’ve found my max performance with my stock cooler and am ready to get frosty. Great scores btw Zedd!! Was that with LN2 or DICE?



Thx. I am kinda using the 9900k/z390 platform as a lab but will go pretty hard on 7/7. Pretty much no end in sight for me and benching . If I don't like Zen 2 Ill move onto this years HEDT ect... Maybe SLI but I was hedging that SLI was dieing and it looked that way until a couple cheaters started using software to quad SLI on the HOFS
 
 
I have that PerfectPrime & only Chilled water and dice so far.

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Re: EVGA RTX 2080 Ti K|NGP|N (HC Waterblock) Water/Chiller/Sub Zero Cooling Club 2019/06/22 16:17:43 (permalink)
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Re: EVGA RTX 2080 Ti K|NGP|N (HC Waterblock) Water/Chiller/Sub Zero Cooling Club 2019/06/22 17:19:15 (permalink)
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Okay. Base on the OCN forums there’s a PerfectPrime Thermometer for 32 bucks that people have reported will read down to -200 with the right probes. Think I’ll give that thermo a shot and pick up some Kingpin k-type probes when I buy my Tek-9 icon. I think I’ve found my max performance with my stock cooler and am ready to get frosty. Great scores btw Zedd!! Was that with LN2 or DICE?



Thx. I am kinda using the 9900k/z390 platform as a lab but will go pretty hard on 7/7. Pretty much no end in sight for me and benching . If I don't like Zen 2 Ill move onto this years HEDT ect... Maybe SLI but I was hedging that SLI was dieing and it looked that way until a couple cheaters started using software to quad SLI on the HOFS
 
 
I have that PerfectPrime & only Chilled water and dice so far.


How’s the Tek-9 for DICE? And what alcohol are you using for your medium? I’ve been thinking of using methanol, just gotta find a supplier
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Re: EVGA RTX 2080 Ti K|NGP|N (HC Waterblock) Water/Chiller/Sub Zero Cooling Club 2019/06/22 21:01:35 (permalink)
 
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Sure it could. But I am going to vaso and TIM we will see transpires. I don't like glue. that particular 9900K that will be tortured  is on my S list anyway. When it dies its going on the wall of shame next to the Z390 Aorus Master it shipped with @ 9900k launch... Ive never hated a pairing of components but the sum of those two are less than their value individually... I am triggered just thinking about it. 6 months of tweaking that garbage in an endless cycle of lowering expectations and bios updates that are worse than the previous versions. I will never forget the SHAME GB brought to my bench... BOO HISS BOO
 
If honor were a thing GB should have committed Seppuku by now...



lmao
 
I'm not surprised you had issues with the Aorus Master. Gigabyte is junk.
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Re: EVGA RTX 2080 Ti K|NGP|N (HC Waterblock) Water/Chiller/Sub Zero Cooling Club 2019/06/23 01:28:19 (permalink)
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I am now seeing the GPU PCB Temperatures running closer to MEM1 @ 42°C and 44°C @ 99% Load pushing 330 Watts non-stop for the last few days.
Peeking at 400+ Watts as shown in one of the Images Below.
Running Moo! Really Pushing the Graphics Card Overall the Computer is pushing just under 590 Watts using Only the GPU, no CPU Tasks Running.
Pushing a Solid 2040MHz 1.050 Volts and 99% Utilization
Maybe the KPE Hydro Copper Water Block just need a little longer Break-In Time. GPU1 39°C & GPU2 40°C Coolant @ 26°C Flow 3.7 LPM Room 21°C
Flow is from the Out on the GPU so I guess I could test the Flow going into the GPU to see the Difference if any. The Flow is the Same.
It is not about how high or low but how close they are together now as before the GPU PCB Temp was 40°C and MEM1 was 50°C or so.
Using a Standard Custom Water Loop, Separate from the CPU Custom Water Loop.
I added a Flow Meter and a Coolant Temperature Sensor.





Lmfao, wouldn't you be better off with a test bench instead of a case? Barely any of that loop is in the case.
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Re: EVGA RTX 2080 Ti K|NGP|N (HC Waterblock) Water/Chiller/Sub Zero Cooling Club 2019/06/23 07:49:37 (permalink)
This 9900K die performed decently on direct die dice. ~6.08 ghz validated  5.85ghz CB15 2535 multi
If you look at HWBOT for 9900K Dice 5.9 GHz is the top entry

considering that before a delidding it was my worst chip.

@bcav you had mentioned being worried about air gap ect. Basically the direct die mount is full of Vaso and the open space around the die is filled with KPX. This mitigates most of the issue. And also helps if you are on LN2 and get the crack @-140c. If you heat the pot and have all that KPX it will reset and you can continue benching without a tear down...

 
 


 
Cheers. Btw during this test I was trying to get as "frosty" as possible per TIN's request 
 
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Re: EVGA RTX 2080 Ti K|NGP|N (HC Waterblock) Water/Chiller/Sub Zero Cooling Club 2019/06/23 08:36:05 (permalink)
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Spoiler

I am now seeing the GPU PCB Temperatures running closer to MEM1 @ 42°C and 44°C @ 99% Load pushing 330 Watts non-stop for the last few days.
Peeking at 400+ Watts as shown in one of the Images Below.
Running Moo! Really Pushing the Graphics Card Overall the Computer is pushing just under 590 Watts using Only the GPU, no CPU Tasks Running.
Pushing a Solid 2040MHz 1.050 Volts and 99% Utilization
Maybe the KPE Hydro Copper Water Block just need a little longer Break-In Time. GPU1 39°C & GPU2 40°C Coolant @ 26°C Flow 3.7 LPM Room 21°C
Flow is from the Out on the GPU so I guess I could test the Flow going into the GPU to see the Difference if any. The Flow is the Same.
It is not about how high or low but how close they are together now as before the GPU PCB Temp was 40°C and MEM1 was 50°C or so.
Using a Standard Custom Water Loop, Separate from the CPU Custom Water Loop.
I added a Flow Meter and a Coolant Temperature Sensor.




Lmfao, wouldn't you be better off with a test bench instead of a case? Barely any of that loop is in the case.

close

The loop is only for testing as some are complaining about how bad the KPE Hydro Copper Water Blocks are under a Normal Custom Loop.
I would have thought you would have known this but I guess not  Do not worry one day you will have your own KPE Hydro Copper Water Block. 
The case that is going to be used in the end is the Core W100+P100 this Case the Z71 was fine for a Hybrid Cooler. But now I am moving to the Other Dark Side.
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Re: EVGA RTX 2080 Ti K|NGP|N (HC Waterblock) Water/Chiller/Sub Zero Cooling Club 2019/06/23 08:41:58 (permalink)
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This 9900K die performed decently on direct die dice. ~6.08 ghz validated  5.85ghz CB15 2535 multi
If you look at HWBOT for 9900K Dice 5.9 GHz is the top entry

considering that before a delidding it was my worst chip.

@bcav you had mentioned being worried about air gap ect. Basically the direct die mount is full of Vaso and the open space around the die is filled with KPX. This mitigates most of the issue. And also helps if you are on LN2 and get the crack @-140c. If you heat the pot and have all that KPX it will reset and you can continue benching without a tear down...

 
 


 
Cheers. Btw during this test I was trying to get as "frosty" as possible per TIN's request of frosties. 
close

Supper and @ -140°C
Thanks for the note about the "direct die mount"

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Re: EVGA RTX 2080 Ti K|NGP|N (HC Waterblock) Water/Chiller/Sub Zero Cooling Club 2019/06/23 12:16:23 (permalink)
@dougal0614
 
For DICE acetone works really well and is available @ a lot of stores. Store the DICE in a Yeti Tundra 50.
 

Dry Ice rated and stores 30lbs for 5-7 days easy. I did not believe it untel I tried it. I still have 5lbs of dice in it from the last bench session and bought the 30lbs of dice on 6/15/19. Though that remaining 5 lbs has H20 ice around the edges and without chizzling it off should not be used... Don't want H20 in the pot.
 
@bcav to be clear. I was not down at -140c that is not possible with dry ice. But cold bugs and TIM failures surface from 110c to 140c. I just do everything with LN2 in mind regarding prep because that is what should be used if one is not a "chicken clocker" like my self. But hey I am almost ready!
Will only be able to get that cold with LN2 or another colder liquid brought to boiling point in the pots.
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Re: EVGA RTX 2080 Ti K|NGP|N (HC Waterblock) Water/Chiller/Sub Zero Cooling Club 2019/06/23 15:25:38 (permalink)
I have frosties every weekend hehe.. beer that is. Nice job!

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Re: EVGA RTX 2080 Ti K|NGP|N (HC Waterblock) Water/Chiller/Sub Zero Cooling Club 2019/06/24 08:46:22 (permalink)
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Re: EVGA RTX 2080 Ti K|NGP|N (HC Waterblock) Water/Chiller/Sub Zero Cooling Club 2019/06/24 12:43:39 (permalink)
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Im glad im not the only one with Mem1 temps being higher then everything else, Kind of makes me wonder if EK or Bitspower are making a block for the KPE.


When I get home I'm going to be doing some custom thermal pads. I've noticed when I had mine back apart some of the indents where the memory and thermal pads meet and vrms and thermal pads don't seem to be very uniform. Looks to me like some need thicker and some thinner to be more uniform.

Im going to change my thermal paste in a few weeks, ill probably see what i can come up with on pads too.




What pads did you use? I was thinking of getting some fujipoly 12 W/mK pads. How thick are the pads? (are they same same for VRM and mem?)
(I just ordered the card/block and I've not received them yet.) 
Having them on my Titan RTXs really helped me push the mem.
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Re: EVGA RTX 2080 Ti K|NGP|N (HC Waterblock) Water/Chiller/Sub Zero Cooling Club 2019/06/24 12:57:33 (permalink)
The Cost is High for Fujipoly 12 W/mK Thermal Pads and seems you can only use them Once and then they fall apart.
Fujipoly extreme thermal pads reviews
So I am staying away from them.
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Good reviews here
mod/smart Fujipoly Ultra Extreme XR-m Thermal Pad - 60 x 50 x 0.5 - Thermal Conductivity 17.0 W/mK
The ones in the know, which is you the reader of this review, love this stuff. Fujipoly Sarcon is the mythical 17W/mK stuff that's incredibly fragile yet somehow pulls heat off of hot mosfets and chips like no other thermal pad/putty out there. It's not conductive, stays put, doesn't dry out, it's the trifecta. It doesn't have the properties of the Panasonic soft PGS where it spreads out the heat, this stuff fills in gaps and transfers heat away. When you need that little extra bit of headroom because of a heat issue, this is what you need.
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Re: EVGA RTX 2080 Ti K|NGP|N (HC Waterblock) Water/Chiller/Sub Zero Cooling Club 2019/06/24 13:05:42 (permalink)
We have asked this question a few times now but no one is responding "How thick are the pads?"
100 x 15 x ?.0 is the size you can but and will cost you.
You will need
4 Each 15mm x 55mm (just short with one strip for 2)
1 Each 15mm x 100mm
1 Each 15mm x 25mm
1 Each 7mm x 115 mm
1 Each 7mm x 50mm
2 Each 10mm x 10mm
 
mod/smart Fujipoly Ultra Extreme XR-m Thermal Pad - 100 x 15 x 1.0 - Thermal Conductivity 17.0 W/mK $19.49 EACH Prime
 
mod/smart Fujipoly Ultra Extreme XR-m Thermal Pad - 100 x 15 x 0.5 - Thermal Conductivity 17.0 W/mK $16.99 EACH Prime
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Re: EVGA RTX 2080 Ti K|NGP|N (HC Waterblock) Water/Chiller/Sub Zero Cooling Club 2019/06/24 15:15:56 (permalink)
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We have asked this question a few times now but no one is responding "How thick are the pads?"
100 x 15 x ?.0 is the size you can but and will cost you.
You will need
4 Each 15mm x 55mm (just short with one strip for 2)
1 Each 15mm x 100mm
1 Each 15mm x 25mm
1 Each 7mm x 115 mm
1 Each 7mm x 50mm
2 Each 10mm x 10mm
 
mod/smart Fujipoly Ultra Extreme XR-m Thermal Pad - 100 x 15 x 1.0 - Thermal Conductivity 17.0 W/mK $19.49 EACH Prime
 
mod/smart Fujipoly Ultra Extreme XR-m Thermal Pad - 100 x 15 x 0.5 - Thermal Conductivity 17.0 W/mK $16.99 EACH Prime


Thanks sir. It had some real hate for the pads in the past (but still kept using them.) When i got them before they were it some super ghetto packaging (like between thin cardboard) and dry. (2016 vs 2018)
But the ones for my Titan RTX SLI and my 2080 ti FE SLI were not. They where in real packaging too. They were puddy-like.
They are packaged by primochill now. (at least the ones i got off amazon that i'm really happy with.)
 
I'm thinking i'll just of the ram? which one is that?

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Re: EVGA RTX 2080 Ti K|NGP|N (HC Waterblock) Water/Chiller/Sub Zero Cooling Club 2019/06/24 16:04:12 (permalink)
Memory 1 and the Memory next to VRM and the VRM if you have enough.
(The Memory next to VRM and the VRM) This is the warmest spot on my card.
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