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Re: EVGA 30 Series Hydro Copper Updates
2020/12/18 12:30:08
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FYI Jacob just said on EVGA Weekly that Hydro Coppers are delayed and no ETA sorry.
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Re: EVGA 30 Series Hydro Copper Updates
2020/12/18 12:42:11
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So, I've looked on EVGA's site do they sell everything else that you would need for this 3080?
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Re: EVGA 30 Series Hydro Copper Updates
2020/12/19 09:02:38
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At this point are they just going to phase out the 3080 10GB and not release the Hydro Copper until there's a Ti model? Please dont do this, I really don't need more than 10GB of VRAM for 1440P ultrawide and would rather not get fleeced out of another $300 USD for 0% performance on my use case.
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Re: EVGA 30 Series Hydro Copper Updates
2020/12/19 09:28:50
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It's gonna be the same PCB and same water block and so I expect they will keep the 3080 HC alongside the 3080 Ti HC.
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Re: EVGA 30 Series Hydro Copper Updates
2020/12/19 09:54:26
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Yeah but if we've learned anything from Nvidia/EVGA it's that production will vastly favour the more expensive products. See the Black and SC models vs FTW3. Considering the 3080 10GB HC has a $150 premium over the FE that would put the 3080 Ti at roughly $1149 assuming a $999 FE MSRP. The only difference between the two is an extra 10GB of GDDR6x which costs $70-80 USD in bulk. I'm not saying a 10GB HC wont exist, but I wouldn't be surprised if come February stock of all 10GB models will be virtually nonexistent. Which would be a real shame for the 3080 10GB HC if it never even launches before then.
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Re: EVGA 30 Series Hydro Copper Updates
2020/12/19 10:40:52
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Yeah, I hear you. Maybe. I also hope that they allow 1440p gamers to get their hands on the 3080.
Personally as I have a 5K monitor (not really a hardcore gamer per se, but the occasional title) and more importantly a 4K Reverb G2 for flight sims the 3080 Ti and the 3090 are the cards that interest me more. DCS already uses more than 10GB in high settings in some scenarios. The longer it takes for 3090 prices and availability to normalise then the more likely it is to downsell me to the 3080Ti.
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Re: EVGA 30 Series Hydro Copper Updates
2020/12/19 11:07:51
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I really would have preferred they downsized the 3090 with 1GB chips on the wider bus (a 12GB card) instead of upsizing the 3080 to 20GB. The higher bandwidth and extra 2GB over the 3080 would be perfect for 1440p ultrawide. But it's a niche market so we always have to go overkill with 4k cards or be slightly underpowered in terms of VRAM/raster performance.
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Re: EVGA 30 Series Hydro Copper Updates
2020/12/19 22:45:28
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Ive been out of the loop a few days now, is there any updates on hydro copper standalone blocks for 3080 FTW3 Ultra?
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Re: EVGA 30 Series Hydro Copper Updates
2020/12/20 00:45:47
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SimonOcean
It's gonna be the same PCB and same water block and so I expect they will keep the 3080 HC alongside the 3080 Ti HC.
In order to double the VRAM NVIDIA will be required to use twice the GDDR6X chips in a clamshell design, which means there will be memory on the top side of the PCB just like the 3090 cards. This is one more reason I didn't want to see a 3080 Ti with double the memory of a 3080... no perf gain but a whole lot more cost and complexity. And the topside of the card will need cooling or it will run hot because of all that GDDR6X...
 Have water, will cool.
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Re: EVGA 30 Series Hydro Copper Updates
2020/12/20 05:18:53
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Yeah, you are totally correct: I wonder myself about the longevity of these cards overall. But especially so on the cards with memory chips on the backplate side of the PCB. It is still not going to stop me getting a >=16GB GPU this refresh cycle however as I need the performance for my 4K VR headset.
I freed up a CPU bottleneck moving from Skylake-X to Ryzen 5000. But now my GPU is bottlenecking badly and settings have to be lowered significantly to get decent FPS. 3090 could move the bottleneck much further for better quality settings.
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Re: EVGA 30 Series Hydro Copper Updates
2020/12/21 13:20:27
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I’m thinking of the same thing. Want to get an HC but i don’t know how to make it into a hybrid or what not. It’ll be my first time custom water cooling
And i want to keep the default hc block
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Re: EVGA 30 Series Hydro Copper Updates
2020/12/21 17:20:38
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Feels like EVGA is just not prioritizing custom watercooling Customers, feels sad. Holidays are here and no Hydrocopper anything.
Custom watercooling enthusiasts are left hanging out to dry.
Don't want an AIO product Hybrid or anything like that either, main reason why I skipped the Kingpin AIO version and Hybrid 3090 models.
But yeah I'm sure I am not the only one feeling this way and this Christmas feels like we are just left out, not even being considered. Website says no ETA. Just means "Sorry, we are not prioritizing Custom Watercooling customers"
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Re: EVGA 30 Series Hydro Copper Updates
2020/12/21 17:31:41
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I usually wait for the Ti editions to come out before I drop money down for a GPU in a new series. This time I decided to go all out, spending not far off $1,000 on full water cooling CPU/GPU loop gear, and $2k for a 3090 card (since hydro coppers were not available). Months later, I've had to RMA the GPU and I'm sitting with a box of gear still waiting on a water block for the GPU from EK, which now looks to be delayed until February, and little chance of an alternative being available sooner that's worth spending more money on.
Never again.
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Re: EVGA 30 Series Hydro Copper Updates
2020/12/21 17:56:02
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I feel your pain. I've been driving a 3440 x 1440 100hz monitor off a 750Ti since August.
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Re: EVGA 30 Series Hydro Copper Updates
2020/12/21 19:36:08
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If they're having that much delay with the water blocks, I imagine that the only people who will get HC 3080 will be those who were able to pre-order it on the one hour that the auto-notify was available. I'm guessing they'll save any other water blocks for 3080 Ti or higher. Financially, there would be absolutely no reason to do so. As it is, I have serious doubts that they will even fulfill the XC auto-notifies that they have outstanding.
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Re: EVGA 30 Series Hydro Copper Updates
2020/12/21 22:59:35
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mchang1984
Feels like EVGA is just not prioritizing custom watercooling Customers, feels sad. Holidays are here and no Hydrocopper anything.
EVGA's Jacob has posted before on this. There was a design issue with the block and EVGA had to go back and change the block design at the last minute. Waterblocks for GPUs almost always have a delay since companies can't get cards ahead of time to create and validate designs early enough.
Have water, will cool.
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Re: EVGA 30 Series Hydro Copper Updates
2020/12/25 19:55:06
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Maybe I’m an idealist - but I’m giving EVGA the benefit of the doubt to protect us from this - please don’t prove me wrong
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Re: EVGA 30 Series Hydro Copper Updates
2020/12/26 13:16:20
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3080ti was leaked on asus website. This kind of makes me want to wait for a 3080 ti hydrocopper.
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Re: EVGA 30 Series Hydro Copper Updates
2020/12/27 05:52:14
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allenwr1505
3080ti was leaked on asus website. This kind of makes me want to wait for a 3080 ti hydrocopper.
Waiting is always an option, I am curious the performance difference between the upcoming ti and the other two.
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Re: EVGA 30 Series Hydro Copper Updates
2020/12/27 13:25:23
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allenwr1505
3080ti was leaked on asus website. This kind of makes me want to wait for a 3080 ti hydrocopper.
Got a source for that leak?
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Re: EVGA 30 Series Hydro Copper Updates
2020/12/27 13:52:04
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Re: EVGA 30 Series Hydro Copper Updates
2020/12/27 14:13:02
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allenwr1505
3080ti was leaked on asus website. This kind of makes me want to wait for a 3080 ti hydrocopper.
Got a source for that leak?
https://www.igorslab.de/en/die-geforce-rtx-3080-ti-kommt-spaeter-die-rtx-3060-eher-und-die-gtx-1060-3gb-bekommt-eine-nachfolgerin-2/
for the 3080ti in general
because quite frankly it just hurts to use wccftech as a source - although they're the ones to say the asus website had the 3080ti listed on a dropdown for videocard support
Just like they said back in July... with this same exact image of the Asus support site. I can't believe sites even regurgitate the drivel that comes from Videocardz or wccftech like they are valid sources. Videocardz literally posted this new story using the same exact image they used to publish a "leak" from Asus back in July, then wccftech publishes a new piece along with another video claiming the "leak" and also use the same exact image of the supposed Asus support page that they used back in July.
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Re: EVGA 30 Series Hydro Copper Updates
2020/12/27 14:39:36
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allenwr1505
3080ti was leaked on asus website. This kind of makes me want to wait for a 3080 ti hydrocopper.
Got a source for that leak?
https://www.igorslab.de/en/die-geforce-rtx-3080-ti-kommt-spaeter-die-rtx-3060-eher-und-die-gtx-1060-3gb-bekommt-eine-nachfolgerin-2/
for the 3080ti in general
because quite frankly it just hurts to use wccftech as a source - although they're the ones to say the asus website had the 3080ti listed on a dropdown for videocard support
Just like they said back in July... with this same exact image of the Asus support site. I can't believe sites even regurgitate the drivel that comes from Videocardz or wccftech like they are valid sources. Videocardz literally posted this new story using the same exact image they used to publish a "leak" from Asus back in July, then wccftech publishes a new piece along with another video claiming the "leak" and also use the same exact image of the supposed Asus support page that they used back in July.
hence my statement - but did you check the link I left or just not trust Igor's Lab
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Re: EVGA 30 Series Hydro Copper Updates
2020/12/27 15:16:13
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I read his article and watched the video on youtube. I'd call all of that speculation more than a "leak". Nothing Igor presented was firm and was his opinion on what he expects NVIDIA to do given the GPU landscape, and also his take on the 3050 Ti seems like some backpedaling from his prior predictions.
I tend not to give credence when people use "leak" or "confirmed" in conjunction with speculation and opinion (or citing a "source" that has been consistently shown to provide bogus information as factual evidence like wccftech), even where I think something might be reasonably guessed as a possibility. Prior to the 3060 Ti I would significantly discount claims of a 3080 Ti as it looked like NVIDIA was indeed killing of the Ti branding. Now I'm less doubtful of a potential 3080 Ti, however, that doesn't mean I'll take rehashed "leaks" as confirmation of such. I'd also be surprised by NVIDIA launching a 3080 Ti when they still are nowhere near meeting the demand of 3080 and 3090s. I'm more inclined to think the RTX: Game On even will be launching mobile versions of RTX 30-series chips along with updates on the software technologies.
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Re: EVGA 30 Series Hydro Copper Updates
2020/12/27 15:52:11
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PopinFRESH007
I read his article and watched the video on youtube. I'd call all of that speculation more than a "leak". Nothing Igor presented was firm and was his opinion on what he expects NVIDIA to do given the GPU landscape, and also his take on the 3050 Ti seems like some backpedaling from his prior predictions.
I tend not to give credence when people use "leak" or "confirmed" in conjunction with speculation and opinion (or citing a "source" that has been consistently shown to provide bogus information as factual evidence like wccftech), even where I think something might be reasonably guessed as a possibility. Prior to the 3060 Ti I would significantly discount claims of a 3080 Ti as it looked like NVIDIA was indeed killing of the Ti branding. Now I'm less doubtful of a potential 3080 Ti, however, that doesn't mean I'll take rehashed "leaks" as confirmation of such. I'd also be surprised by NVIDIA launching a 3080 Ti when they still are nowhere near meeting the demand of 3080 and 3090s. I'm more inclined to think the RTX: Game On even will be launching mobile versions of RTX 30-series chips along with updates on the software technologies.
I don't consider "sources from suppliers" as speculation. As for his youtube video - I dont know what he said as I don't speak German (did he elaborate during the video?). In the long run it may be all speculation that should be ironed out in the next couple of months. Doesn't change my course regardless, it is too bad if someone is just spreading bs and get everyone excited for nothing. I imagine if it is bs, Igor isn't using those sources again. Tomshardware.com is going to reconsider also. Everything with a grain of salt.
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Re: EVGA 30 Series Hydro Copper Updates
2020/12/27 15:52:16
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Back on-topic, has anyone gotten anything from Jacob since the blurb in the evga weekly stream? I'm still trying to hold out hope for a KPE HC, but I'm starting to try to snag a STRIX since I can get an EKWB for it.
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Re: EVGA 30 Series Hydro Copper Updates
2020/12/28 10:03:14
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I would love some sort of update on the Hydro copper cards. My Strix 2080Ti crapped out on me and warranty is void due to the custom block. I would happily throw $800 to $900 at one of these cards with a block already on it to make my problems go away.
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Re: EVGA 30 Series Hydro Copper Updates
2020/12/28 10:50:51
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Ansrala
I would love some sort of update on the Hydro copper cards. My Strix 2080Ti crapped out on me and warranty is void due to the custom block. I would happily throw $800 to $900 at one of these cards with a block already on it to make my problems go away.
Good point - keep from buyers remorse
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Re: EVGA 30 Series Hydro Copper Updates
2021/01/06 08:31:40
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Now that the break is over has there been any word on the HC series?
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Re: EVGA 30 Series Hydro Copper Updates
2021/01/06 08:46:51
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I would love some sort of update on the Hydro copper cards. My Strix 2080Ti crapped out on me and warranty is void due to the custom block. I would happily throw $800 to $900 at one of these cards with a block already on it to make my problems go away.
Do you live in the USA? If so the warranty void if removed sticker is null and void and actually illegal. As long as you put the original cooler back on they need to accept the RMA unless you broke it. If you live elsewhere the laws of right to repair may not cover you.
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