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DaBogo
i managed to catch and ordered one from Germany.
EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 FTW3 Ultra Gaming, 10240 MB GDDR6XAktueller Einzelpreis: 1.467,40 € *
is it expensive? Hell yeah!! But at least on my name and i can register the card with the invoice and didnt paid 2200+ for it!
but still i see as soon some of the 3080s hit a store - you can take a look 30min later on ebay or some local platform ebay like and they will be already listed.
Too bad but mining... :)

DaBogo, congrats on your new card can you please link where you got the card? My 1080ti is acting up-most likely not long for this world.
 
I have 5 notifies going back to 21 Sept 2020, from what I can see the EU notify is a sick joke; have bought EVGA cards since the GF8800 in 2008-and I'm an 'elite' member apparently, but they can't be arsed selling me a card..
 
Never thought I'd see the day €1.4K for a GPU was appealing to me.

i've got it from caseking.de. Caseking.de is probably one of the biggest in Europe.
Casekingdom

Dont let prices trick you on caseking.de. These are prices with German Taxes which are really high. Once i've registered with my switzerland address the price for my 3080 ftw3 ultra went from 1890 to 1426eur which was still lot of money but that's the situation we deal with at the moment. Considering how much stronger this card is then my previous 2080ti xc2 ultra which was solt for 1515chf, i came out at the end with 1660 swissfrancs for the card and 151swissfrancs import taxes and finally recieved it yesterday. My friend was only waiting for me to recieve the 3080 and he got mine 3070 ftw3 ultra i owned previous.
So there is one great thing and one really bad thing... the good thing is that i can upgrade to 3090 over step-up for around 250euro which is really nothing for that perf. upgrade level. The bad thing is that probably queue is insane long :))
 
I was thinking that the prices will go down slowly but NO sir, at the moment people are selling their 3070 oc asus tuf and gigabytes and so on for between 1550 and 1640 dollars. 
 

Sir Frigorifero
caseking has quite a stock of GPUs ready but prices are bonkers. i know that it's like this everywhere but i expect one the biggest retailers in europe at least to honor the MSRP more or less, as now the prices are doubled.
 
as for the taxes, german VAT is quite low, so the final price may be even higher if you buy from other countries. for example German VAT is 19%. italian one is 22%

22%? Say what?! I'm lucky because i only paid 151 Swiss Francs import costs. Our Taxes are 7.7%.
I also was watching a 3070 TUF OC review from Serbia. Now Serbia has not really high sallerys and milions of people are strugglin but 3070 OC TUF costs 1660EUR there. I was shocked.
I also looked on a french page how the stock is there and oh boy!! 3070 for 1800Eur, 3090 Strix 3899EUR. And i was thinking that Switzerland is the most expensive country when it comes to these gpus. It looks  like we are more than cheap but these are mining prices... i cannot imagine that a casual gamer would pay 3890euro in FRA for a 3090 GPU just to be able to play Cyberpunk at 4K ahahha. And a professional gamer doesnt need to pay. They get em for free (the best ones).
Oh boy  - this is crazy right now. Too bad i'm so in love from the first "powering on" with my FTW3 Ultra 3080 otherwize i could make at least 650+ with it and wait for 3080Ti :D hahah but too much effort for something i dont support.

alandoy
For comparison I paid €1905, inclusive of 21% VAT for the 3090 via the EVGA queue. Would love to know what the new price is (post hike) if anyone has that available? Might be useful to quote your VAT too if you have it. 
 
Miners have little interest in 3090's. Sure they probably would buy one if they could, but really their main focus is on 3060Ti/3070/3080. The reason is in terms of "hash rate/watt", the lower cards are _waaay_ more efficient. The 3090 is like nearly double the price than a 3080, but only gives like 20-25% extra horsepower. A miner would rather buy 2x 3080's than 1x 3090. It would be quicker for them to recoup their initial investment. I don't know what the "sweet spot" is for efficiency, but I suspect it's probably a 3060Ti or 3070 which is the best card for mining. Again, they'd probably buy anything, but given the choice... the 3090 is like the least desirable for mining. 

my taxes in switzerland 7.7%. I paid on case king for 3080 EVGA FTW3 ultra 1493,96 € including ups shipment and at delivery i paid taxes from 137Euro. In Germany EVGA FTW3 Ultra is selling (caseking as example) for 2.361,90 €* . In my case i would pay 7.7% on top since i live in Switzerland. In germany the Final price would be: 2.810,66 €* . That's a big difference.
 
At this moment the most profit are making people with 5700 & 5700 XT cards. If i only knew that this time will come, i would buy 100 of them 2-3 years ago. I had one 5700 Asus strix (not xt). I paid original 360swissfrancs. When this madness started i put it on auktion plattform in switzerland from 1chf and it went something over 900at the end. Crazy!
 
Alternate.de will recieve FTW3 Ultra hybrid 3080 in 26days for 1404Euro.

alandoy
For comparison I paid €1905, inclusive of 21% VAT for the 3090 via the EVGA queue. Would love to know what the new price is (post hike) if anyone has that available? Might be useful to quote your VAT too if you have it. 
 
Miners have little interest in 3090's. Sure they probably would buy one if they could, but really their main focus is on 3060Ti/3070/3080. The reason is in terms of "hash rate/watt", the lower cards are _waaay_ more efficient. The 3090 is like nearly double the price than a 3080, but only gives like 20-25% extra horsepower. A miner would rather buy 2x 3080's than 1x 3090. It would be quicker for them to recoup their initial investment. I don't know what the "sweet spot" is for efficiency, but I suspect it's probably a 3060Ti or 3070 which is the best card for mining. Again, they'd probably buy anything, but given the choice... the 3090 is like the least desirable for mining. 

Actual street price for the 3090 series (not just evga) is between 2800 and 3100€

Sir Frigorifero

alandoy
For comparison I paid €1905, inclusive of 21% VAT for the 3090 via the EVGA queue. Would love to know what the new price is (post hike) if anyone has that available? Might be useful to quote your VAT too if you have it. 
 
Miners have little interest in 3090's. Sure they probably would buy one if they could, but really their main focus is on 3060Ti/3070/3080. The reason is in terms of "hash rate/watt", the lower cards are _waaay_ more efficient. The 3090 is like nearly double the price than a 3080, but only gives like 20-25% extra horsepower. A miner would rather buy 2x 3080's than 1x 3090. It would be quicker for them to recoup their initial investment. I don't know what the "sweet spot" is for efficiency, but I suspect it's probably a 3060Ti or 3070 which is the best card for mining. Again, they'd probably buy anything, but given the choice... the 3090 is like the least desirable for mining. 

Actual street price for the 3090 series (not just evga) is between 2800 and 3100€

Thanks buddie - but no, I meant it would be interesting to know what the _EVGA queue price_ for a 3090 is now.......as we've gone beyond the window where EVGA said they would honor the original price. I'm curious to know what the price hike for people on the queue is. I don't think that hike is down to EVGA either - but rather it's tarriff based on the chips out of China. (I could be wrong there) 
 
Still though, anyone paying ~€3k for a GPU is insane. 

Caseking is no longer the largest in Europe as you might expect. He was at one time. But not now it has been caught up by the LDLC group (France) and Caseking entered into negotiations to be bought by LDLC a few months ago, because Caseking has an annual budget deficit, and if nobody does something, there is 'has a risk of seeing caseking disappear.
The negative point in all this, the LDLC group, already owns all or almost all the brands of hardware parts sales in France, and it charges very very excessive prices, but despite all their annual figures are rising year after year without weakening. .

I don't even have to look - there will be supply issues with the 3080Ti. The reason being is that it's the same chip as the 3090. Usually what happens is that they print a full wafer of chips. Depends on the size of the chips, but there's probably 30-40 chips on a wafer of silicon. 
They test all these chips. There are always some imperfections in various parameters, and the ones that fail to meet the cut as a 3090 gets "binned" from that pool, and they are tested as potential chips for the 3080 cards. If they pass those tests they are used in those 3080 cards. This is the way it's been for years with GPU releases. It's a good way to use the chips. 
 
So considering that it's the same root source, yeah, I can't see there being anything but a shortage as they all come from the same place. 
 
On the plus side though, when you think it through. 
- if you are interested in a 3080 (non Ti) the introduction of the 3080Ti may speed the 3080 queue, if people on the queue get notified and turn down their chance as they would now rather a 3080Ti - it may seem that the 3080 queue moves quicker. 
- If you are super quick and get onto the new queue early, you might be able to source a 3080Ti sometime in this decade. :-) As I understand it, it's the sad reality that a new queue does mean that if you get in early on it, you might get a new card quicker than someone who's waited for months on an older sku

hi guys, just a quick question. The queue system on the EVGA page is just for US? They don't ship to EU? If yes I guess I have to contact my mates in the US then..if the link ever comes ofc ^^

ohnoplsno

FalC_16
hi guys, just a quick question. The queue system on the EVGA page is just for US? They don't ship to EU? If yes I guess I have to contact my mates in the US then..if the link ever comes ofc ^^

The EU queue is at eu.evga.com, the evga.com queue is NA? US? only. If you get one through the NA queue then you can *possibly* get it to a friend in NA, not sure about possible complications on that(something about billing and shipping being the same address?)

many thanks for your response. Yeah best bet would be a US friend with local billing and then him shipping to the EU. I guess the only implication might be extra charge at the customs or VAT. 

I was incorrect earlier too about the price hike on the queue. Thought it was April, but reading on the website it's May 14th. 


SPECIAL EVGA 30 SERIES PRICING UPDATE NOTICE:
Due to ongoing events, EVGA has made price adjustments on the GeForce RTX 30 Series products. This change was necessary due to several factors and will be effective January 11, 2021. EVGA has worked to reduce and minimize these costs as much as possible. For those who are currently in the EVGA.com Notify Queue system or Step-Up Queue, EVGA will honor the original MSRP pricing through May 14th, 2021 if your purchase position is processed before this date.
 
 

Feuer_Psycho
 3080Ti 24h exclusive queue access for elite could be the thing in the EU.  well IF the store guys manage to make it work the way it should and IF the cards actually get an EU queue....
 
But at least you are number 200 instead 5000 in line for something that gets a drop of 1-2 every other month...maybe... if the moon is aligned... and one sacrifices 15 baby carrots.

I think they supply so few GPUs to the EU that even those who join the queue in the first 5-10 hours will have to wait at least a few weeks, if not more :D Even in the US, the queue moves insanely slowly, GPUs are sent to miners and large stores, from where they are quickly bought by bots. I think the most adequate option is to wait for the output of 4080 or 5080 kekW

rayven96

Feuer_Psycho
 3080Ti 24h exclusive queue access for elite could be the thing in the EU.  well IF the store guys manage to make it work the way it should and IF the cards actually get an EU queue....
 
But at least you are number 200 instead 5000 in line for something that gets a drop of 1-2 every other month...maybe... if the moon is aligned... and one sacrifices 15 baby carrots.

I think they supply so few GPUs to the EU that even those who join the queue in the first 5-10 hours will have to wait at least a few weeks, if not more :D Even in the US, the queue moves insanely slowly, GPUs are sent to miners and large stores, from where they are quickly bought by bots. I think the most adequate option is to wait for the output of 4080 or 5080 kekW

If only the EU queue moved as fast as the NA queue(should honestly move faster as it is shipped from Taiwan, from where it's made!!), I would be long gone from these forums, enjoying my 3070... or 3060... :(

I genuinely am beginning to think we have a better chance getting 3080ti than a 3080 here in Europe.

Walter112
Just wait for the 4000 series, possibility will get that as fast as the 3000 series.
This whole thing is a joke and big nonsense waiting for.
 
it has nothing to do with just shortage, more with policy and advancers on the market.
 

 you're wrong. silicon deficiency is observed in all areas. in addition, the growth of cryptocurrency prices and a large number of miners greatly affect the deficit. perhaps your reasons, too, but indirectly.

Outofstock4ever
patience is the name of the game

I wish it were just that if it meant being patient rewarded you with a card. Other factors are at play of course.