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Re: RTX 3090 K|NGP|N Power Draw Issues 2020/12/20 14:04:03 (permalink)
I’m going to go through the. Rma hopefully they send a new one. Then I can compare to see if a have a really good binned card.
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Re: RTX 3090 K|NGP|N Power Draw Issues 2020/12/20 14:05:17 (permalink)
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I’m going to go through the. Rma hopefully they send a new one. Then I can compare to see if a have a really good binned card.


I as well as others aren't remotely hitting what you have. You are giving up a good card if you send that off.
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Re: RTX 3090 K|NGP|N Power Draw Issues 2020/12/20 14:06:12 (permalink)
If they don’t benchmark the same. I’m going to wait to see if they can fix it. Crossing figures it’s my current setup...
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Re: RTX 3090 K|NGP|N Power Draw Issues 2020/12/20 14:09:34 (permalink)
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If they don’t benchmark the same. I’m going to wait to see if they can fix it. Crossing figures it’s my current setup...

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/55224728?
 
this is after 6 hours of tweaking today.
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Re: RTX 3090 K|NGP|N Power Draw Issues 2020/12/20 14:11:51 (permalink)
Ok maybe I’ll wait to see if there is a firmware fix. Now I’m really scared to get an underperforming card and a replacement.
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Re: RTX 3090 K|NGP|N Power Draw Issues 2020/12/20 14:24:14 (permalink)
I still think temps has something to do with it. I was at 46 degrees compared to
Your 52. Don’t temps determine how high the clocks go?
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Re: RTX 3090 K|NGP|N Power Draw Issues 2020/12/20 14:26:08 (permalink)
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I still think temps has something to do with it. I was at 46 degrees compared to
Your 52. Don’t temps determine how high the clocks go?

Doesn't look like it... https://www.3dmark.com/pr/653720
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Re: RTX 3090 K|NGP|N Power Draw Issues 2020/12/20 14:27:56 (permalink)
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I still think temps has something to do with it. I was at 46 degrees compared to
Your 52. Don’t temps determine how high the clocks go?

Doesn't look like it... https://www.3dmark.com/pr/653720


Now that's got to be a good bin.

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Re: RTX 3090 K|NGP|N Power Draw Issues 2020/12/20 14:29:05 (permalink)
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I still think temps has something to do with it. I was at 46 degrees compared to
Your 52. Don’t temps determine how high the clocks go?



Supposedly temps over 50c drop 15 mhz for every 1c over that. The score that Sajin just posted blows that out of the water though.
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Re: RTX 3090 K|NGP|N Power Draw Issues 2020/12/20 14:31:44 (permalink)
But there might be other factors put into that one. I didn’t toucch voltages. So maybe if you increase those. The boost bin if I’m understanding correctly is higher then in stock voltages.
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Re: RTX 3090 K|NGP|N Power Draw Issues 2020/12/20 14:35:15 (permalink)
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jollib
I still think temps has something to do with it. I was at 46 degrees compared to
Your 52. Don’t temps determine how high the clocks go?

Doesn't look like it... https://www.3dmark.com/pr/653720


Now that's got to be a good bin.


I know right. heh. I wish I had a chip like that.
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Re: RTX 3090 K|NGP|N Power Draw Issues 2020/12/20 14:39:00 (permalink)
Power draw test in 85F room...
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Re: RTX 3090 K|NGP|N Power Draw Issues 2020/12/20 14:39:14 (permalink)
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I still think temps has something to do with it. I was at 46 degrees compared to
Your 52. Don’t temps determine how high the clocks go?

Doesn't look like it... https://www.3dmark.com/pr/653720


Now that's got to be a good bin.


I know right. heh. I wish I had a chip like that.


All the 3090 KP's should come high binned like that. 

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Re: RTX 3090 K|NGP|N Power Draw Issues 2020/12/20 14:42:10 (permalink)
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I still think temps has something to do with it. I was at 46 degrees compared to
Your 52. Don’t temps determine how high the clocks go?

Doesn't look like it... https://www.3dmark.com/pr/653720


Now that's got to be a good bin.


I know right. heh. I wish I had a chip like that.


All the 3090 KP's should come high binned like that. 


I agree.
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Re: RTX 3090 K|NGP|N Power Draw Issues 2020/12/20 14:44:28 (permalink)
Damn I don’t know what’s up with my card you are hitting power limit at lower clocks. Let me try slowing the fans down to see if I can recreate an apples to apples scenario.
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Re: RTX 3090 K|NGP|N Power Draw Issues 2020/12/20 14:52:27 (permalink)
I have my 3090 strix on a EK block with a alphacool X -flow 360rad 60 mm running the Kingpin bios that's it nothing more done to it +170 clock +1250 mem gets me 15 322 @ 34c
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Re: RTX 3090 K|NGP|N Power Draw Issues 2020/12/20 15:14:56 (permalink)
Hummm, that guy is an Elite member.....
https://hwbot.org/user/mllrkllr88/
 
 
Here is one of my runs...
https://www.3dmark.com/pr/663542
post edited by johnksss - 2020/12/20 15:21:57

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Re: RTX 3090 K|NGP|N Power Draw Issues 2020/12/20 16:20:38 (permalink)
Is that just water cooled?
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Re: RTX 3090 K|NGP|N Power Draw Issues 2020/12/20 17:17:30 (permalink)
Nvm


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Re: RTX 3090 K|NGP|N Power Draw Issues 2020/12/20 17:26:43 (permalink)
Having the same power draw issues on LN2 bios. Card never draws over 450w fully loaded on any benchmark I run. Never gotten above 47c. Submitted a support request today.
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Re: RTX 3090 K|NGP|N Power Draw Issues 2020/12/20 17:31:23 (permalink)
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If they don’t benchmark the same. I’m going to wait to see if they can fix it. Crossing figures it’s my current setup...

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/55224728?
 
this is after 6 hours of tweaking today.


I can only scrape similar scores to you.

 
hallowen
All the 3090 KP's should come high binned like that. 


Agreed. I was hoping a KP would be a better experience than my FTW3 but it isn't looking that way.
 
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Re: RTX 3090 K|NGP|N Power Draw Issues 2020/12/20 17:37:42 (permalink)
You only need to run test 2 of TPE and you really need the classy tool to set the voltage to 1.1V and that's it. This just makes your life easier.
And drop the high memory overclocks till you figure out what your core overclock is first.
That is only advice....
 

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Re: RTX 3090 K|NGP|N Power Draw Issues 2020/12/20 18:50:45 (permalink)
They (EVGA) told me “anything over 350W is not guaranteed by EVGA and is not a valid reason for RMA” when I opened a ticket.

F.
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Re: RTX 3090 K|NGP|N Power Draw Issues 2020/12/20 18:54:16 (permalink)
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They (EVGA) told me “anything over 350W is not guaranteed by EVGA and is not a valid reason for RMA” when I opened a ticket.

F.



For a $2100, yes it damn well is. Also, 350W is 3080, 3090 is 400W, minimum.
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Re: RTX 3090 K|NGP|N Power Draw Issues 2020/12/20 18:55:45 (permalink)
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They (EVGA) told me “anything over 350W is not guaranteed by EVGA and is not a valid reason for RMA” when I opened a ticket.

F.



 
That applies for Kingpins too??? ****
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Re: RTX 3090 K|NGP|N Power Draw Issues 2020/12/20 18:56:03 (permalink)
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They (EVGA) told me “anything over 350W is not guaranteed by EVGA and is not a valid reason for RMA” when I opened a ticket.

F.



For a $2100, yes it damn well is. Also, 350W is 3080, 3090 is 400W, minimum.




Here's a copy/paste from the response on the ticket for my K|NGPIN:
 
"Thank you for reaching out to us regarding your graphics card. Please note that the RTX 3090 has a rated power wattage of 350 watts. Wattage and power demands for the graphics card beyond that are not guaranteed and EVGA does not guarantee overclocking results beyond the factory overclocks automatically applied to your card out of the box."
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Re: RTX 3090 K|NGP|N Power Draw Issues 2020/12/20 19:04:11 (permalink)
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They (EVGA) told me “anything over 350W is not guaranteed by EVGA and is not a valid reason for RMA” when I opened a ticket.

F.



For a $2100, yes it damn well is. Also, 350W is 3080, 3090 is 400W, minimum.




Here's a copy/paste from the response on the ticket for my K|NGPIN:
 
"Thank you for reaching out to us regarding your graphics card. Please note that the RTX 3090 has a rated power wattage of 350 watts. Wattage and power demands for the graphics card beyond that are not guaranteed and EVGA does not guarantee overclocking results beyond the factory overclocks automatically applied to your card out of the box."




Vince said in an email these are binned GPUs though. If people are scoring significantly higher, that should be covered.
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Re: RTX 3090 K|NGP|N Power Draw Issues 2020/12/20 19:08:48 (permalink)
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They (EVGA) told me “anything over 350W is not guaranteed by EVGA and is not a valid reason for RMA” when I opened a ticket.

F.



For a $2100, yes it damn well is. Also, 350W is 3080, 3090 is 400W, minimum.




Here's a copy/paste from the response on the ticket for my K|NGPIN:
 
"Thank you for reaching out to us regarding your graphics card. Please note that the RTX 3090 has a rated power wattage of 350 watts. Wattage and power demands for the graphics card beyond that are not guaranteed and EVGA does not guarantee overclocking results beyond the factory overclocks automatically applied to your card out of the box."




Vince said in an email these are binned GPUs though. If people are scoring significantly higher, that should be covered.




Yeah, not really sure what to do. If I return it, I won't be able to get another one for quite some time. :(
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Re: RTX 3090 K|NGP|N Power Draw Issues 2020/12/20 19:14:35 (permalink)
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Vince said in an email these are binned GPUs though. If people are scoring significantly higher, that should be covered.



Do you have a copy of that email or a link anywhere? Thanks...
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Re: RTX 3090 K|NGP|N Power Draw Issues 2020/12/20 19:18:53 (permalink)
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Vince said in an email these are binned GPUs though. If people are scoring significantly higher, that should be covered.



Do you have a copy of that email or a link anywhere? Thanks...




Doesn't seem to let me post it.
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