i used px1 for my score. as did many of the guys in the top 10
I mean if you want to use a fixed voltage then AB can be better but otherwise i dont see any difference in scores
 
Many ppl make the mistake of leaving px1 open or simply minimizing the program and it leads to lower performance from overhead. Then they poo poo all over px1. you need to X out of the program completely after setting your overclocks; the offsets  will remain
 
As for power limits concerning the KPE i cant comment 

USMC1419

jspataro99
My goodness does using Afterburner make all the difference on this card. I’m up to 15,102 for the 7th overall score on a 9900KS stock voltage max fans no classified tool in a closed case. +145 / +1200

https://www.3dmark.com/pr/710647

Seeing temp limit spikes now so I’m going to stop while I’m ahead.

But yeah. RIP Precision X1 ☹️

How does using AB vs PX1 make a difference? I thought this was proven not to matter.

I don’t know. All I do know is that AB made all the difference for me. So it looks like whoever proved this theory wrong, is wrong.

xxDarkxx
i used px1 for my score. as did many of the guys in the top 10
I mean if you want to use a fixed voltage then AB can be better but otherwise i dont see any difference in scores
 
Many ppl make the mistake of leaving px1 open or simply minimizing the program and it leads to lower performance from overhead. Then they poo poo all over px1. you need to X out of the program completely after setting your overclocks; the offsets  will remain
 
As for power limits concerning the KPE i cant comment 

That doesn’t make any sense. I keep AB open and running during my tests, and I see no “lower performance from overhead.” Therefore it’s clearly an issue with Precision. So many people in these forums are obsessed with being permanent contrarians, and proving anyone and everyone else wrong. So you can feel free to ignore my suggestion. That’s what I get for trying to be helpful. Your case may be different. Again I really don’t care. I’ll just keep being more than happy with my 15K+ scores on stock voltage using AB.

Happy new year.

Hello, I received the beast today after some hours of testing here's the result : 15585

- Dip switches NVVDD and MSVDD both on
- XOC bios
- Push Pull Noctua NF-F12 fans
- Starting temp 10 degree
- AB +205 ; +1500 ; +100 mV
Classified tool : NVVDD 1,25 ; MSVDD 1,00

Happy new year !

Don't know when I'll be doing round 2 but if you guys have any idea on how to increase my score 😁

jspataro99

xxDarkxx
i used px1 for my score. as did many of the guys in the top 10
I mean if you want to use a fixed voltage then AB can be better but otherwise i dont see any difference in scores
 
Many ppl make the mistake of leaving px1 open or simply minimizing the program and it leads to lower performance from overhead. Then they poo poo all over px1. you need to X out of the program completely after setting your overclocks; the offsets  will remain
 
As for power limits concerning the KPE i cant comment 

That doesn’t make any sense. I keep AB open and running during my tests, and I see no “lower performance from overhead.” Therefore it’s clearly an issue with Precision. So many people in these forums are obsessed with being permanent contrarians, and proving anyone and everyone else wrong. So you can feel free to ignore my suggestion. That’s what I get for trying to be helpful. Your case may be different. Again I really don’t care. I’ll just keep being more than happy with my 15K+ scores on stock voltage using AB.

Happy new year.

That guy was helping you and your too hard headed to understand

He said very nicely that px1 has overhead
This is known and factual. AB typically doesnt

All you have to do to make your pseudo performance difference go away is to close px1 after setting clocks

Dont be so sensitive you little baby or else you will stay ignorant

My 3090 ftw3 ultra with water block just past up MY Kingpin that score 15369 http://www.3dmark.com/pr/654869   Ultra  score 15450 http://www.3dmark.com/pr/728013 . Going to put Ultra in I9 9900 ks rig should go up a lot.  

johnksss
Exactly why I can't wait to get a water block for the Kingpin....

Makes a big difference .

sparetimepc

Yep great scores for sure, keep it up. Eventually when I get out of hospital and get better with my chemo treatments I'll be here playing around as well, hopefully be able to get my koolance chiller all hooked up and kicking tail.

We'll be Looking for some high scores!

sparetimepc

telehog
My 3090 ftw3 ultra with water block just past up MY Kingpin that score 15369 http://www.3dmark.com/pr/654869   Ultra  score 15450 http://www.3dmark.com/pr/728013 . Going to put Ultra in I9 9900 ks rig should go up a lot.  

Yep great scores for sure, keep it up. Eventually when I get out of hospital and get better with my chemo treatments I'll be here playing around as well, hopefully be able to get my koolance chiller all hooked up and kicking tail.

Thanks spare time pc. Looking forward to seeing you back at top in HOF

I guess I'll do one more round of uninstalls and DDU and reinstalls. But, it is pretty obvious it is broken out of the box. I've had over eight 3090 cards at this point. This is the first to flat out not work at all under heavy loads, even without changing stock settings at all.

Played around a bit more. LN2 bios. barely in top 100 LOL
 
https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/56055727
 
 
 
 
 

alpharius194

fragility_V1

xxDarkxx
yes optimus. loving the results so far!
I have it running the 520w bios. No voltage mods are available for the ftw3 unfortunately there is no header and its all analog so im stuck at 1.1v max

Very nice.  Was only able to get my KPE card to 15,300 with 1.25V and pulling near 700W.  Thermals were starting to bring down the clocks, so looking forward to someone, anyone, releasing a block for the card.  Don't have the cojones for LN2.  Though I have been eyeing chillers...
https://www.3dmark.com/pr/718350

How much improvement did you see with the XOC bios? I have mine at 15487 at 1.156 NV/ 1.050 MS / 1.406 FB inside the case on just the stock 520w OCP/dipswitches on. Thinking about trying the XOC bios but standard overclocking in florida is hard, very few days under 75F outside even in the winter. 

I'm in South Florida and although I keep my ambient at 21C that is about as cool as it gets in here and on those freak cold nights I would have to move my rig to a window. I do open all my windows when it does get cool so I will wait patiently lol. I do have a stand alone AC unit that I use for hurricane season or if my central air takes a poop. I could try that too I guess but again, would have to move to a window or the hot exhaust will just blow around the house. 

Here's my best: http://www.3dmark.com/pr/728107
 
IIRC that was +125/+1300'ish, LN2 bios, maxed Power/Voltage sliders, no dip switches/no classified tool. Hit PL at 470W 110% TDP as well as VRel/VOp/Thrm sometimes. My core won't go past +125 without insta-crash.
 
Also, does anyone elses VRM fan literally sound like it's about to explode and fly off the card when at 100%? Mine makes a horrible grinding/ticking noise at 100%, I thought my pump had died but it was the fan making the noise.

Dabadger84
Just seeking informations here: Can someone tell me what the Kingpin boost clock is at stock (like what it actually boosts to in games).  I know the base clock is 1920MHz instead of 1800MHz on the regular 3090 FTW3, I'm just wondering what that translates to in games/benchmarks, is it around 2040?  I'm just trying to get a rough idea of where the Kingpin's "starting" point is vs my current card.  Obviously I know it'll OC further because voltage control.
 
Basically trying to see what the stock vs stock delta is on clocks so I can extrapolate the stock vs stock FPS difference in games via testing my card stock vs the "stock" boost of the Kingpin via OCing my current card to said speed.

Mine is 2040mhz from what I can gather. My cyberpunk stable OC for auto NV and a small bump in FB and MS is 2130mhz at +90. But precision X1 is also telling me at +90 it should hit 2145 instead... so there's that. 

ehabash1

That guy was helping you and your too hard headed to understand

He said very nicely that px1 has overhead
This is known and factual. AB typically doesnt

All you have to do to make your pseudo performance difference go away is to close px1 after setting clocks

Dont be so sensitive you little baby or else you will stay ignorant

So we’ve lowered ourselves to resorting to personal attacks now? Okay I can play along. It’s “you’re.” Not “your.” As in “you’re uneducated.” And I’m the ignorant one? LOL. Keep being just another basic mean gamer and maybe try paying attention in grammar school.

And closing PX1 doesn’t do anything for the issue I’ve described. I am discussing an issue of suppressed power targets using PX1, not performance loss due to operating overhead. You and your friend aren’t being helpful by answering questions that weren’t asked, or by judging someone as ignorantly “poo poo-ing” software that clearly has material flaws. By the way, performance differences aren’t “pseudo” if they are real. Stick to words that you understand.

As I said in posts that you were too lazy to read: it’s not an issue for everyone, and it’s only on the LN2 BIOS under STOCK VOLTAGES for me. The PX1 power target issue has been well documented by others. So don’t comment on something you obviously know nothing about. You’re just adding useless garbage to a forum that was created to help people. (See how I used “you’re” there? That’s the correct way. You’re welcome.)