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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/21 15:19:48 (permalink)
first it was "YoUr PsU iS nOt GoOd eNufF" now its "YoU cAnT pUsH a 3090 tO iTs LiMiTs, lIkE tHaT". If a Top of the line GPU cant play a game with default settings, or High settings, there is something wrong with that GPU.... The only thing to blame now is EVGA, they for  sure cheap out on a certain part within their 3090 FTW3.... LMK when ASUS or even ZOTAC has a Reddit thread with over 1k comments about their 3090 dying from playing a Game with a GTX 970 recommended requirement....
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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/21 15:23:02 (permalink)
anyone with 3080 ti FTW any issue ?????????????????

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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/21 15:23:35 (permalink)
The King probably shrugs off 400 fps like a tiger tank.
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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/21 15:27:17 (permalink)
Thishone
It seems it only affect the 3090 but what about the 3090 Kingping ? 


 
I want to know this as well. I haven't seen any reports but there are so few of those cards maybe they haven't show up in forums yet...
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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/21 15:29:30 (permalink)
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anyone with 3080 ti FTW any issue ?????????????????




I haven't seen any post anywhere about the 3080 TI FTW bricking, but I haven't seen any confirmation that it is unaffected like the 3080 FTW's are either.
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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/21 15:31:34 (permalink)
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first it was "YoUr PsU iS nOt GoOd eNufF" now its "YoU cAnT pUsH a 3090 tO iTs LiMiTs, lIkE tHaT". If a Top of the line GPU cant play a game with default settings, or High settings, there is something wrong with that GPU.... The only thing to blame now is EVGA, they for  sure cheap out on a certain part within their 3090 FTW3.... LMK when ASUS or even ZOTAC has a Reddit thread with over 1k comments about their 3090 dying from playing a Game with a GTX 970 recommended requirement....




You can run a 3090 at 500W indefinitely, IF its properly supplied with clean power and kept cool, say about 55C core and 90C vram. It will run for years.  However, most of the people complaining have put them in glass boxes and on a questionable PSU.  They are EQUIPMENT, not APPLIANCES.  Any equipment has general guidance for setup, optimal operation parameters, requires monitoring of performance, stress testing to validate integrity and periodic maintenance.
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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/21 15:32:31 (permalink)
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The King probably shrugs off 400 fps like a tiger tank.



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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/21 15:34:03 (permalink)
This youtuber just confirmed it. Were doomed. He ran with 3090 and a few secs later his 3090 died. He was changing his graphics settings and turned vsync off and bam dead. Also A evgas card with hybrid cooler
"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6sYOqPPTN0"
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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/21 15:35:28 (permalink)
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anyone with 3080 ti FTW any issue ?????????????????




I haven't seen any post anywhere about the 3080 TI FTW bricking, but I haven't seen any confirmation that it is unaffected like the 3080 FTW's are either.


My 3080ti ftw3 died not from this game but from cyberpunk. Died after 20 minutes, heard a pop, fans went buck wild and rebooted pc. Red light of death above 3rd connector. Not sure if it is related but the pop, fans, and red light line up with other 3090 failures I've read.
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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/21 15:46:07 (permalink)
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first it was "YoUr PsU iS nOt GoOd eNufF" now its "YoU cAnT pUsH a 3090 tO iTs LiMiTs, lIkE tHaT". If a Top of the line GPU cant play a game with default settings, or High settings, there is something wrong with that GPU.... The only thing to blame now is EVGA, they for  sure cheap out on a certain part within their 3090 FTW3.... LMK when ASUS or even ZOTAC has a Reddit thread with over 1k comments about their 3090 dying from playing a Game with a GTX 970 recommended requirement....




You can run a 3090 at 500W indefinitely, IF its properly supplied with clean power and kept cool, say about 55C core and 90C vram. It will run for years.  However, most of the people complaining have put them in glass boxes and on a questionable PSU.  They are EQUIPMENT, not APPLIANCES.  Any equipment has general guidance for setup, optimal operation parameters, requires monitoring of performance, stress testing to validate integrity and periodic maintenance.


Ive ran a evga 3080FTW3 on a Store brand 850W PSU, stop making excuses for cheap parts.... The PSU only deliver what the GPU ask for, If a low quality PSU is tasked with the job, and it cant deliver whats asked, it shuts itself down... Seems like the GPU dont have wide enough doors for whats its asking for so the doors break and then the whole operation shuts down... 
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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/21 15:59:38 (permalink)
 
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You can run a 3090 at 500W indefinitely, IF its properly supplied with clean power and kept cool, say about 55C core and 90C vram. It will run for years.  However, most of the people complaining have put them in glass boxes and on a questionable PSU.  They are EQUIPMENT, not APPLIANCES.  Any equipment has general guidance for setup, optimal operation parameters, requires monitoring of performance, stress testing to validate integrity and periodic maintenance.


Yes exactly. No way there could ever be an issue with some cards. lets say a certain early revision.
Going back to the earlier 3090 vs Porsche comparison - Whats the point of purchasing a Porsche if you only drive it for your daily groceries in town ?
Cars like that are meant to be driven. And a 3090 is not meant to be capped at 60 fps. 
Before any ad-hominem arises - I am capable of maintaining a PC, overclock and stability test it down to individual ram timings if need be, please and thank you.

Going back to facts again: 
I personally experienced a handful of black screens with no lasting damage (I hope) in NW at different settings before I decided not to push my luck any further.
FTW3 Ultra running the XOC Bios at the stock settings. No manual adjustment to the curve was made, Power target stayed at 100%. 
The card crashed with:
- uncapped fps
- fps capped to 60
- Vsync On or Off

At the latest log entry from GPU-Z just before the crash with uncapped fps (happened while playing at around 150ish fps@3440*1440, not in the menu) the GPU was stable at 76degrees, memory at 88degrees,
fans were at 84% (stock curve). 93.4 % power target, no 8pin or PCI-E was over spec.
PSU is a 1200W Corsair AX1200i, with three separate 8pin connectors. 
No entries in the event manager apart from "Unexpected shutdown"
Card model is the OG red lips series, first revision.
Log files and further data were provided to EVGA support, lets see what happens.
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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/21 16:01:52 (permalink)
Thishone
It seems it only affect the 3090 but what about the 3090 Kingping ? 


You can't pay me enough money to risk my Kingpin lol.

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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/21 16:03:51 (permalink)
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Thishone
It seems it only affect the 3090 but what about the 3090 Kingping ? 


You can't pay me enough money to risk my Kingpin lol.

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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/21 16:04:21 (permalink)
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What is it exactly that people should be doing to "take care of their EQUIPMENT" in this case?
 
You're gonna blame the PSU? Nope. Wrong, try again.
 
You're gonna blame a bad overclock? Nope. Wrong, try again.
 
You're gonna blame a case with bad airflow? Nope, wrong, try again.
 
You have a 3090, right? so put your money where your mouth is. Play the game at settings appropriate for the most powerful gaming GPU out there. Let's see what kind of FPS you can get.



Man, people who buy these 3090's just expect them to game everything no sweat and then cook them breakfast.  Like an appliance.
 
Been thinking about stepping up to 3090 SLI, just to make people mad.


Why would that make anyone mad. What's been making people mad is you acting like a smug jerk while providing absolutely no valuable information.
 
People with VERY good PSUs have had this problem. Same people with VERY good airflow cases have had this problem. Same people again who are running their cards at factory clocks and who are monitoring their temps (and not seeing any issues with temps at all) have had this problem.
 
So all the stuff you've been blaming this on turns out to be incorrect. It is happening despite good PSU, good airflow with good temps, no overclock.
 
So maybe explain for the benefit of the community your expert methods for taking care of this card.
 
Please put your own 3090 to the test and run the game without Vsynch and show us how it's done.
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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/21 16:07:40 (permalink)
The common denominator of all these gpus dying are what? lol.
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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/21 16:11:52 (permalink)

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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/21 16:13:54 (permalink)
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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/21 16:18:07 (permalink)
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Its beyond me that this is killing a top tier GPU Makes no sense... Why all of a sudden a game that doesnt have a capped frame rate, Is New world running something that caused these gpus to die? 
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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/21 16:18:54 (permalink)
Chiming in on this as I experienced a similar issue on my RTX 3090 XC3 Ultra Gaming...
 
However what caused it was the amount of rendering of particles that tanked my FPS before finally, my screen turned black and my fans ramped up to 100%.
I'll mention now that I undervolted (and still kept the constant voltage) and my FPS was capped at 80 FPS.
 
This occured last Monday, waiting on my RMA unit to come in tomorrow.
 
Moral of the story: Be very careful, even if your GPU begins to struggle and you added restraints.
 
For the people with bricked GPUs, did you have HW GPU scheduling enabled? (Enabled via Windows.)
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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/21 16:25:40 (permalink)
in other news, all the scalpers that bought EVGA 3090 FTW3s are 
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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/21 16:25:47 (permalink)
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https://forums.newworld.com/t/update-on-graphics-card-issues-3090-gpu-update/130524
 

They haven’t seen anything, but they are going to cap it anyways? Umm ok. They should leave it as is, so people can test, but I guess people can still test as clearly the guys card above in the video died in game.

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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/21 16:28:27 (permalink)
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https://forums.newworld.com/t/update-on-graphics-card-issues-3090-gpu-update/130524
 

They haven’t seen anything, but they are going to cap it anyways? Umm ok. They should leave it as is, so people can test, but I guess people can still test as clearly the guys card above in the video died in game.

EVGA must have slipped them a couple hundo under the table

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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/21 16:29:40 (permalink)
As a new owner of a 3080Ti FTW3, I'm more than a bit worried about what is safe to play at this point. There have been several comments on Reddit and other forums about 3090 FTW3's dying while playing LoL and HALO, and even a few while playing Cyberpunk, which suggests that it is not a single game that is at fault. The screen goes dark, the PC reboots, and the red light of death appears on the card.
 
I really hope we get some answers as to what is causing this.
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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/21 16:58:38 (permalink)
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Software is meant to push the limits of hardware.
 
While there are plenty of bad software developers, who'll brute-force solutions rather then developed elegant/efficient solutions, hardware should always govern how it's used and operate within safe parameters. 
 
It's not the software developer's responsibility to implement safeguards that protect thousands+ of combinations of hardware possible; although, I'm curious if poor coding could have played a role by explioting an unknown weakness in the hardware. If this is the case, it would have happened sooner or later and people are lucky that this was discovered while their warranty is still valid.



Software doesn't kill a card. The card kills the card. Software may open up some defect on the card but it is ultimately the card.




That's what I said; go reread it.
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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/21 16:59:23 (permalink)
This isn't the first game to cause this issue with the EVGA 3090 FTW3. The Halo Master Chief Collection killed mine and I had to RMA it for the same reason. Was in the Halo 2 menu and when I exited out of it black screen and only audio. Then I noticed the 2 red LEDs lit up by the PCIE power connectors on the video card. So there is clearly an issue with this card. These games aren't affecting other manufacture 3090s.
 
Just note important PC specs:
Asus ROG Maximus XII Extreme
Intel i9-10850K
Corsair HX1000i Platinum (I do use individual cables for each 8pin)
EVGA 3090 FTW3 Ultra
Also I am not overclocking anything.
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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/21 17:03:06 (permalink)
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This isn't the first game to cause this issue with the EVGA 3090 FTW3. The Halo Master Chief Collection killed mine and I had to RMA it for the same reason. Was in the Halo 2 menu and when I exited out of it black screen and only audio. Then I noticed the 2 red LEDs lit up by the PCIE power connectors on the video card. So there is clearly an issue with this card. These games aren't affecting other manufacture 3090s.


I guess it depends on the gpu then cause I played Halo with my 3090 FTW3 Ultra without any issues..
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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/21 17:04:31 (permalink)
Here's the first anecdotal account of out of the normal operating parameters I've seen, vram junction temps of 115C:
 
https://www.reddit.com/r/LivestreamFail/comments/oos0vm/the_new_world_beta_is_currently_breaking_evga/h60ot2j/?context=3
 

the 3090s have vram on the bottom that runs at 100C during normal gaming, and someone did report seeing 115C during new worlds on his ftw3, a majority of the bricks seem to be evga but there are reports of abnormal temps and power surges even on other hardware.
 
Though the bricks seem to be caused by something else (signs points toward extremely high fps in the menus, causing a power surge in an already flawed card model), 115C vram temp doesn't help.
 
My old gpu had massive coilwhine over 200fps, with the increased horsepower of the 3090, going over 9000 fps in the menus might be a condition that can pop a cheap capacitor consistently.

 
Of course, I would like to see any other accounts of how the card was operating at the time of failure. 
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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/21 17:09:46 (permalink)
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Here's the first anecdotal account of out of the normal operating parameters I've seen, vram junction temps of 115C:
 
https://www.reddit.com/r/LivestreamFail/comments/oos0vm/the_new_world_beta_is_currently_breaking_evga/h60ot2j/?context=3
 

the 3090s have vram on the bottom that runs at 100C during normal gaming, and someone did report seeing 115C during new worlds on his ftw3, a majority of the bricks seem to be evga but there are reports of abnormal temps and power surges even on other hardware. Though the bricks seem to be caused by something else (signs points toward extremely high fps in the menus, causing a power surge in an already flawed card model), 115C vram temp doesn't help. My old gpu had massive coilwhine over 200fps, with the increased horsepower of the 3090, going over 9000 fps in the menus might be a condition that can pop a cheap capacitor consistently.
 Of course, I would like to see any other accounts of how the card was operating at the time of failure. 

and thats what I was suspecting, if you see 85 gpu temp you best bet your vram junction temp is maxing out. Even though the card is supposed to throttle at 110c maybe the game does certain direct calls? where its not throttling and vram just keeps rising and kills the card? i'd like to see a reviewer test with all the sensors on to see what temps they get. 
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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/21 17:10:11 (permalink)
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Here's the first anecdotal account of out of the normal operating parameters I've seen, vram junction temps of 115C:
 

 

the 3090s have vram on the bottom that runs at 100C during normal gaming, and someone did report seeing 115C during new worlds on his ftw3, a majority of the bricks seem to be evga but there are reports of abnormal temps and power surges even on other hardware. Though the bricks seem to be caused by something else (signs points toward extremely high fps in the menus, causing a power surge in an already flawed card model), 115C vram temp doesn't help. My old gpu had massive coilwhine over 200fps, with the increased horsepower of the 3090, going over 9000 fps in the menus might be a condition that can pop a cheap capacitor consistently.
 Of course, I would like to see any other accounts of how the card was operating at the time of failure. 

Could the vram temp be directly connected to the to killing the gpu though, Im not even sure if high frame rate cause even cause high temp on vram though.
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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/21 17:10:24 (permalink)
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This isn't the first game to cause this issue with the EVGA 3090 FTW3. The Halo Master Chief Collection killed mine and I had to RMA it for the same reason. Was in the Halo 2 menu and when I exited out of it black screen and only audio. Then I noticed the 2 red LEDs lit up by the PCIE power connectors on the video card. So there is clearly an issue with this card. These games aren't affecting other manufacture 3090s.


I guess it depends on the gpu then cause I played Halo with my 3090 FTW3 Ultra without any issues..




Just search the forums for other people that had the same issue with Halo.
 
 
 
 
 
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