EVGA

EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card

Page: << < ..1112131415.. > >> Showing page 11 of 46
Author
tyranus7
Superclocked Member
  • Total Posts : 198
  • Reward points : 0
  • Joined: 2018/07/14 20:54:24
  • Location: Old Silent Hill
  • Status: offline
  • Ribbons : 0
Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/22 06:22:57 (permalink)
spider1701
kevinc313
 

I agree it is clearly a highly abnormal load situation that any normal stress testing regimen would not replicate, exposing a weakness in the card, possibly vram temps and/or vram power delivery.  
 
BTW, the ancient ATI tool 3d render will let you run 6000fps at about half power.  People use it to test max stable core clock.


cool... at least is is on 50% power :-) (I am tempted to try it.. any download link for it?)
 
What makes me wonder Amazon claims it is not their fault yet they are quickly deploying patch limit FPS in menu :-)
this will be interesting to follow up in the future what outcome there will be for them.




Not Amazon's fault for sure. But also for sure Amazon don't want their game to be the one exposing graphics cards design flaws. As you can see a bunch of people has said to not playing NW because they naively think that's a way to protect their cards. So for such an easy patch Amazon will sell tons more of game copies. By the way for those thinking that not playing NW is a way to protect your cards, it doesn't matter, because there will be another game, another software that will reproduce the issue in the future unless AIB addresses this issue.

Desktop: | Gigabyte Z490 Vision-G | Intel Core i9 10850K | GPU: COLORFUL iGame GeForce RTX 3080 Ti Advanced OC-V | 16 GB RAM DDR4@4400 MHz CL18 | 1 TB NVMe + 10 TB HDD | Intel 2.5 Gbps Ethernet | 1080p @144Hz | EVGA 750W Supernova P2 |
 
12G-P5-3967-KR     6/3/2021 7:48:19 AM PT    Yes (ordered/cancelled by EVGA)

12G-P5-3968-KR     6/3/2021 7:51:30 AM PT    No
12G-P5-3953-KR     6/30/2021 6:30:34 AM PT   Yes (skipped)

 
 
FedericoUY
Superclocked Member
  • Total Posts : 167
  • Reward points : 0
  • Joined: 2009/11/02 08:51:16
  • Status: offline
  • Ribbons : 0
Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/22 06:27:02 (permalink)
spider1701
 
cool... at least is is on 50% power :-) (I am tempted to try it.. any download link for it?)
 
What makes me wonder Amazon claims it is not their fault yet they are quickly deploying patch limit FPS in menu :-)
this will be interesting to follow up in the future what outcome there will be for them.


What amazon states is true, it's not their fault, besides that, they release a patch to limit those FPS, to prevent more cards blowing up, and to keep their rep, because there will be many people that will state that it is amazon's fault...
snoopy3525
New Member
  • Total Posts : 51
  • Reward points : 0
  • Joined: 2008/11/25 21:55:32
  • Status: offline
  • Ribbons : 0
Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/22 06:34:06 (permalink)
Just caught up.  This whole ordeal is nuts, but so is everything else in this world right now, right?
 
I think there are a few takeaways at this point:
1) As the failure is occurring on other brands/cards as well (AMD cards included), It's not just EVGA.  In general, It just happens EVGA sells the most cards out of all AIB's out there naturally you will obviously see more EVGA failures (This does not give EVGA a free pass).
2) nVidia should have given stricter instruction to AIB MFGR's (as someone said previously)
3) FOR THE MOST PART: This is the first time in history we've have a Single GPU pulling well over 300+ Watts in a game off a power supply (You're talking 450-500W).  For reference, All previous high end generations maxed around 250W or so **generally speaking**.  If you have SLI or CrossFire of an older generation, there is no comparison.  You're talking about multiple cards at this point compared to a single card, and the way the power is driven is different.
 
4) This brings me to my last point:  We should find out what Brand/Model PSU's people are using.  These cards dying may not be related to the PSU at all, but it would be interesting to add the PSU's to the list of everyone with a dead GPU.  We all know RTX 3000 series exposed weaknesses in certain PSU's when 3000 series launched.  So why not?  I understand the Power Delivery is handled by the VRM and parts on the Card, but the Delivery comes from somewhere.
 

If you find my responses helpful, please use my Associate Code at checkout for up to 10% off: ZU7H89QLRYSCZL7

 
 
 
spider1701
Superclocked Member
  • Total Posts : 135
  • Reward points : 0
  • Joined: 2010/05/22 17:18:02
  • Status: offline
  • Ribbons : 1
Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/22 06:34:15 (permalink)
FedericoUY
spider1701
 
cool... at least is is on 50% power :-) (I am tempted to try it.. any download link for it?)
 
What makes me wonder Amazon claims it is not their fault yet they are quickly deploying patch limit FPS in menu :-)
this will be interesting to follow up in the future what outcome there will be for them.


What amazon states is true, it's not their fault, besides that, they release a patch to limit those FPS, to prevent more cards blowing up, and to keep their rep, because there will be many people that will state that it is amazon's fault...


I really hope it will be clear if it is problem of HW design, Firmware or Drivers.
Best case scenario would be firmware as it could be fixed. If the HW design will be proven to be purposely flawed (cheep component etc.) than it will be lot of pain for EVGA.
On the other hand their HW (PCB) were certified by NVIDIA so hard to tell who to blame if someone :-)
 
The rest of the affected cards on amazon forums seams to survive the experience (hard crashes etc. but they survived).


kevinc313
CLASSIFIED ULTRA Member
  • Total Posts : 5004
  • Reward points : 0
  • Joined: 2019/02/28 09:27:55
  • Status: offline
  • Ribbons : 22
Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/22 06:36:44 (permalink)
spider1701
kevinc313
 

I agree it is clearly a highly abnormal load situation that any normal stress testing regimen would not replicate, exposing a weakness in the card, possibly vram temps and/or vram power delivery.  
 
BTW, the ancient ATI tool 3d render will let you run 6000fps at about half power.  People use it to test max stable core clock.


cool... at least is is on 50% power :-) (I am tempted to try it.. any download link for it?)
 
What makes me wonder Amazon claims it is not their fault yet they are quickly deploying patch limit FPS in menu :-)
this will be interesting to follow up in the future what outcome there will be for them.




Here:
 
https://www.techpowerup.com/atitool/
 
Just run the fuzzy cube and keep cranking up core clock until you get a crash/instability, can usually go well over 2,200mhz.   Might want to have GPU-Z or HWiNFO to keep an eye on stuff.  Proceed at you own risk but I've never heard of a problem with it.  It is a good indicator of what your chip is capable of.
post edited by kevinc313 - 2021/07/22 06:41:50
spider1701
Superclocked Member
  • Total Posts : 135
  • Reward points : 0
  • Joined: 2010/05/22 17:18:02
  • Status: offline
  • Ribbons : 1
Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/22 06:38:29 (permalink)
kevinc313
 
 
Here:
 
https://www.techpowerup.com/atitool/
 
Just run the fuzzy cube and keep cranking up core clock until you get a crash.  Might want to have GPU-Z or HWiNFO to keep an eye on stuff.  Proceed at you own risk but I've never heard of a problem with it.


thanks :-)


FedericoUY
Superclocked Member
  • Total Posts : 167
  • Reward points : 0
  • Joined: 2009/11/02 08:51:16
  • Status: offline
  • Ribbons : 0
Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/22 06:45:48 (permalink)
spider1701
 
I really hope it will be clear if it is problem of HW design, Firmware or Drivers.
Best case scenario would be firmware as it could be fixed. If the HW design will be proven to be purposely flawed (cheep component etc.) than it will be lot of pain for EVGA.
On the other hand their HW (PCB) were certified by NVIDIA so hard to tell who to blame if someone :-)
 
The rest of the affected cards on amazon forums seams to survive the experience (hard crashes etc. but they survived).


Yes, there could be a FW or SW fix of course, I do not doubt it will, but that only will be fixing (in part) a major HW flaw. You could expose the same in other scenario. On the other side, it is true that this cards are extremely powerful, and with 3 - 8 pin connectors, they (AIB brands) may have risked too much. Maybe the only card that should have had 3 connectors (and support the amount of w we're talking about) was the kingpin.
Zanza741
New Member
  • Total Posts : 12
  • Reward points : 0
  • Joined: 2011/07/13 02:45:23
  • Status: offline
  • Ribbons : 0
Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/22 07:07:10 (permalink)
Supposedly the problem is the fan control chip. That is extra from EVGA on card. (iCX3) Normally you do not need such a thing to regulate the cards via GPU.

What about warranty, is such a defect covered?
atimelessred
New Member
  • Total Posts : 30
  • Reward points : 0
  • Joined: 2020/10/12 08:09:05
  • Status: offline
  • Ribbons : 0
Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/22 07:17:55 (permalink)
Zanza741
Supposedly the problem is the fan control chip. That is extra from EVGA on card. (iCX3) Normally you do not need such a thing to regulate the cards via GPU.

What about warranty, is such a defect covered?




From what I heard, EVGA is covering this issue. (Their RMA reason section was updated to have "New World Game Issue" as an option.)
 
Can someone point me to where there's a collection of PCB revisions? I saw that people were saying that only certain revisions had this issue and wanted to know where they got that information.
 
I also monitored my 3090 FTW3 HC and it got to a max of 47c while playing for 3+ hours. I'll check the memory and (TJunction?) temps later today but does anyone know if the HC lacks that chip? Wouldn't think that a 3090 HC would have/need a fan regulation chip.
1984BC05A6D6416
Superclocked Member
  • Total Posts : 177
  • Reward points : 0
  • Joined: 2017/03/06 09:41:28
  • Status: offline
  • Ribbons : 0
Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/22 07:19:11 (permalink)
[Deleted]
post edited by MaxTheOwl - 2021/08/01 16:04:30
1984BC05A6D6416
Superclocked Member
  • Total Posts : 177
  • Reward points : 0
  • Joined: 2017/03/06 09:41:28
  • Status: offline
  • Ribbons : 0
Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/22 07:21:51 (permalink)
[Deleted]
post edited by MaxTheOwl - 2021/08/01 16:04:14
Xavier Zepherious
CLASSIFIED ULTRA Member
  • Total Posts : 6746
  • Reward points : 0
  • Joined: 2010/07/04 12:53:39
  • Location: Medicine Hat ,Alberta, Canada
  • Status: offline
  • Ribbons : 16
Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/22 07:21:59 (permalink)
currently every brand and type are affected
 
AMD
vega 64
rX500 series
and 6000 series
 
nvidia
1000 series
2000 series
3000 series
 
doesn't matter what AIB they are all affected
yes 3090 are the most affected because they have the highest power draw of any card
 
ive went thru all the post on all the forums
 
i dare say the cards with the most problems are the ones with the highest power draws
 
it could be a PSU overpower issue 
could also be that were driving the cards too hard and designers did not build in enough power protection to the GPU design or card design
this would be because engineers try to keep the cards cost down rather than build in excess protection
 
in any event this would be not the AIB fault but rather NVIDIA's and AMD fault for not requiring higher OCP standards and limits
 
ps: however realize this will drive the price of future card higher due to more protection measures  or higher quality parts  or more of them to be used
 
post edited by Xavier Zepherious - 2021/07/22 07:27:55


Primes found     Affiliate Code:YN2AHK39LH



 
StanJarensky3
New Member
  • Total Posts : 8
  • Reward points : 0
  • Joined: 2020/09/23 06:17:05
  • Status: offline
  • Ribbons : 0
Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/22 07:35:04 (permalink)
For what it's worth, RTX 3080 owners are also reporting this. I had something very similar happen to me while playing FFXIV on my 3080 FTW3 Ultra so I'm assuming it's a similar problem. Theoretically, setting a maximum FPS globally should stop whatever application/game from drawing obscene amounts of power during unlocked loading screens, right? I'm about to RMA my 3080 to EVGA today but in the meantime, I'll be setting a global FPS cap to my monitor's maximum refresh rate. 
tamerlee
New Member
  • Total Posts : 51
  • Reward points : 0
  • Joined: 2007/10/16 11:19:46
  • Status: offline
  • Ribbons : 0
Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/22 07:42:12 (permalink)
As a 3090 FTW3 owner that has played New World heavily over the last few days, this is terrifying.



atimelessred
New Member
  • Total Posts : 30
  • Reward points : 0
  • Joined: 2020/10/12 08:09:05
  • Status: offline
  • Ribbons : 0
Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/22 07:47:18 (permalink)
tamerlee
As a 3090 FTW3 owner that has played New World heavily over the last few days, this is terrifying.




Can you tell us what revision your 3090 is? (Or when you were able to buy it?)
jaketeck
New Member
  • Total Posts : 6
  • Reward points : 0
  • Joined: 2016/11/04 10:34:00
  • Status: offline
  • Ribbons : 0
Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/22 07:50:24 (permalink)
Interesting. These boards have shunt resistors and power monitoring all over the place. I suspect that there may be a path that doesn't have power monitoring and that this game somehow maxes that path which leads to the failure. I'm reading through the entire thread now, has anyone inspected the failed cards yet?
 
StanJarensky3
For what it's worth, RTX 3080 owners are also reporting this. I had something very similar happen to me while playing FFXIV on my 3080 FTW3 Ultra so I'm assuming it's a similar problem. Theoretically, setting a maximum FPS globally should stop whatever application/game from drawing obscene amounts of power during unlocked loading screens, right? I'm about to RMA my 3080 to EVGA today but in the meantime, I'll be setting a global FPS cap to my monitor's maximum refresh rate. 


 
I think my 3080 was having a similar issue when playing RE:Village 
post edited by jaketeck - 2021/07/22 08:24:19
Outofstock4ever
Superclocked Member
  • Total Posts : 210
  • Reward points : 0
  • Joined: 2021/02/26 11:13:20
  • Status: offline
  • Ribbons : 0
Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/22 08:22:39 (permalink)
jaketeck
Interesting. These boards have shunt resistors and power monitoring all over the place. I suspect that there may be a path that doesn't have power monitoring and that this game somehow maxes that path which leads to the failure. I'm reading through the entire thread now, has anyone inspected the failed cards yet?


 read Igors Lab analysis. Crappy and outdated EVGA design
 
https://www.igorslab.de/e...n-caused-evga-problem/

EU- 12G-P5-3657-KR     2/25/2021 9:01:27 AM PT
EU - 08G-P5-3751-KR     2/22/2021 12:11:04 PM PT    
EU - 08G-P5-3663-KR     1/25/2021 8:05:36 AM PT
deathlessdd
New Member
  • Total Posts : 25
  • Reward points : 0
  • Joined: 2021/04/13 16:32:13
  • Status: offline
  • Ribbons : 0
Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/22 08:24:49 (permalink)
This is still not just about the menu fps this is about how the game is rendering on the gpu itself for it to have issues across the board with different gpus. These gpus should be able to handle any type of workloads you throw at it no matter how it is and it should never have a direct effect of killing it as an end result. Its not just tied to 3090s and Evga cards this is effecting AMD as well as Nvidia cards.
Outofstock4ever
Superclocked Member
  • Total Posts : 210
  • Reward points : 0
  • Joined: 2021/02/26 11:13:20
  • Status: offline
  • Ribbons : 0
Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/22 08:25:23 (permalink)
Xavier Zepherious
currently every brand and type are affected
 
AMD
vega 64
rX500 series
and 6000 series
 
nvidia
1000 series
2000 series
3000 series
 
doesn't matter what AIB they are all affected
yes 3090 are the most affected because they have the highest power draw of any card
 
ive went thru all the post on all the forums
 
i dare say the cards with the most problems are the ones with the highest power draws
 
it could be a PSU overpower issue 
could also be that were driving the cards too hard and designers did not build in enough power protection to the GPU design or card design
this would be because engineers try to keep the cards cost down rather than build in excess protection
 
in any event this would be not the AIB fault but rather NVIDIA's and AMD fault for not requiring higher OCP standards and limits
 
ps: however realize this will drive the price of future card higher due to more protection measures  or higher quality parts  or more of them to be used
 




 
can we get some quotes about this other cards you found all over the internet. Not doubting you, but all points to a specific card, AIB and model problem.

EU- 12G-P5-3657-KR     2/25/2021 9:01:27 AM PT
EU - 08G-P5-3751-KR     2/22/2021 12:11:04 PM PT    
EU - 08G-P5-3663-KR     1/25/2021 8:05:36 AM PT
kevinc313
CLASSIFIED ULTRA Member
  • Total Posts : 5004
  • Reward points : 0
  • Joined: 2019/02/28 09:27:55
  • Status: offline
  • Ribbons : 22
Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/22 08:39:54 (permalink)
Outofstock4ever
jaketeck
Interesting. These boards have shunt resistors and power monitoring all over the place. I suspect that there may be a path that doesn't have power monitoring and that this game somehow maxes that path which leads to the failure. I'm reading through the entire thread now, has anyone inspected the failed cards yet?


read Igors Lab analysis. Crappy and outdated EVGA design
 
https://www.igorslab.de/e...n-caused-evga-problem/




Worthless article.  Seriously.  He's not satisfied with EVGA's cooling control solution which is more advanced than the reference and nobody who knows what they are doing uses anyway?  What?
post edited by kevinc313 - 2021/07/22 08:42:30
ObscureEmpyre
SSC Member
  • Total Posts : 974
  • Reward points : 0
  • Joined: 2012/01/15 14:40:05
  • Status: offline
  • Ribbons : 7
Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/22 08:42:01 (permalink)
Outofstock4ever
Xavier Zepherious
currently every brand and type are affected
 
AMD
vega 64
rX500 series
and 6000 series
 
nvidia
1000 series
2000 series
3000 series
 
doesn't matter what AIB they are all affected
yes 3090 are the most affected because they have the highest power draw of any card
 
ive went thru all the post on all the forums
 
i dare say the cards with the most problems are the ones with the highest power draws
 
it could be a PSU overpower issue 
could also be that were driving the cards too hard and designers did not build in enough power protection to the GPU design or card design
this would be because engineers try to keep the cards cost down rather than build in excess protection
 
in any event this would be not the AIB fault but rather NVIDIA's and AMD fault for not requiring higher OCP standards and limits
 
ps: however realize this will drive the price of future card higher due to more protection measures  or higher quality parts  or more of them to be used
 




 
can we get some quotes about this other cards you found all over the internet. Not doubting you, but all points to a specific card, AIB and model problem.

Well, JayzTwoCents posted on Twitter that he’s received word from followers that the following cards have all experienced this problem:

RX590
6800
6800XT
6900XT
3080Ti
3090

So, it doesn’t seem to be limited to a specific AIB or model GPU.


charlesborner
iCX Member
  • Total Posts : 286
  • Reward points : 0
  • Joined: 2007/07/31 11:36:52
  • Status: offline
  • Ribbons : 1
Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/22 08:42:07 (permalink)
jaredbyoung
Nghtmare
I just checked and my 3080 is Rev 0.1, should I be worried? It has been fine so far.

I think the issue is fairly specific to the 3090 and the revision on the 3090 was a result of an issue identified earlier. The people having this issue may have the earlier revision of the 3090 who never encountered the situation that caused them a problem until they played New World.
 
I mean, I find it strange that people are still trying to play New World right now. I'd wait until this gets figured out. Not sure why it's worth it to even take the chance with any card on that game right now.



No.  Because if it was specific to the 3090, we wouldn't be seeing AMD cards in the 6000 series burning out as well.
 
 
Meguas2
xtremegamer
I've now had the following GPU owners express they have had shut downs and failures with New World...
RX590
6800
6800XT
6900XT
3080Ti
3090
So once again, the issue definitely is with SOMETHING in the way the game New World is rendering. This ISNT a 3090'exclusive issue! PERIOD!!

 
Software shouldn't be able to kill GPUs, so it's not new world.  GPUs should be able to work at 100% load without their OCP tripping or even worse blowing fuses.  This is going to come down to either Nvidia's OCP not being fast enough to catch spikes or some other flaw imho.  But I won't jump to conclusions as people that know a lot more than I do about this subject will do their investigations and we will find out.



You won't jump to conclusions.

Yet you just said "So it's not New World".


Outofstock4ever
Xavier Zepherious
currently every brand and type are affected
 
AMD
vega 64
rX500 series
and 6000 series
 
nvidia
1000 series
2000 series
3000 series
 
doesn't matter what AIB they are all affected
yes 3090 are the most affected because they have the highest power draw of any card
 
ive went thru all the post on all the forums
 
i dare say the cards with the most problems are the ones with the highest power draws
 
it could be a PSU overpower issue 
could also be that were driving the cards too hard and designers did not build in enough power protection to the GPU design or card design
this would be because engineers try to keep the cards cost down rather than build in excess protection
 
in any event this would be not the AIB fault but rather NVIDIA's and AMD fault for not requiring higher OCP standards and limits
 
ps: however realize this will drive the price of future card higher due to more protection measures  or higher quality parts  or more of them to be used
 




 
can we get some quotes about this other cards you found all over the internet. Not doubting you, but all points to a specific card, AIB and model problem.



Jayz2cents has received communications from multiple people running AMD cards who've poofed their hardware.

https://twitter.com/JayzTwoCents/status/1418107831786434561


I've now had the following GPU owners express they have had shut downs and failures with New World... RX590 6800 6800XT 6900XT 3080Ti 3090 So once again, the issue definitely is with SOMETHING in the way the game New World is rendering. This ISNT a 3090'exclusive issue! PERIOD!!
post edited by charlesborner - 2021/07/22 08:55:30


 
Ryzen 5950X, Alphacool Eisbaer 420mm, ASROCK Taichi Razer, NVIDIA 3070 Ti FE, 3x Samsung 980 Pro 1TB, 64GB Trident Neo Z DDR4000, Seasonic Focus GX-1000, Total Noctua Fan Swap (8x Redux NF-P14S, 2x Chromax A20), 4x10TB WD Gold in Synology 920+, Thermaltake Core X9
charlesborner
iCX Member
  • Total Posts : 286
  • Reward points : 0
  • Joined: 2007/07/31 11:36:52
  • Status: offline
  • Ribbons : 1
Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/22 08:47:29 (permalink)
 
 
post edited by charlesborner - 2021/07/22 08:48:59
Outofstock4ever
Superclocked Member
  • Total Posts : 210
  • Reward points : 0
  • Joined: 2021/02/26 11:13:20
  • Status: offline
  • Ribbons : 0
Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/22 08:49:11 (permalink)
ObscureEmpyre
Outofstock4ever
Xavier Zepherious
currently every brand and type are affected
 
AMD
vega 64
rX500 series
and 6000 series
 
nvidia
1000 series
2000 series
3000 series
 
doesn't matter what AIB they are all affected
yes 3090 are the most affected because they have the highest power draw of any card
 
ive went thru all the post on all the forums
 
i dare say the cards with the most problems are the ones with the highest power draws
 
it could be a PSU overpower issue 
could also be that were driving the cards too hard and designers did not build in enough power protection to the GPU design or card design
this would be because engineers try to keep the cards cost down rather than build in excess protection
 
in any event this would be not the AIB fault but rather NVIDIA's and AMD fault for not requiring higher OCP standards and limits
 
ps: however realize this will drive the price of future card higher due to more protection measures  or higher quality parts  or more of them to be used
 




 
can we get some quotes about this other cards you found all over the internet. Not doubting you, but all points to a specific card, AIB and model problem.

Well, JayzTwoCents posted on Twitter that he’s received word from followers that the following cards have all experienced this problem:

RX590
6800
6800XT
6900XT
3080Ti
3090

So, it doesn’t seem to be limited to a specific AIB or model GPU.



a bit biased and out of his league, also twitter. No mention to other cards failing anywhere especially amd cards. Zero. This seems to be a distraction to the real problem the ftw3 3090

EU- 12G-P5-3657-KR     2/25/2021 9:01:27 AM PT
EU - 08G-P5-3751-KR     2/22/2021 12:11:04 PM PT    
EU - 08G-P5-3663-KR     1/25/2021 8:05:36 AM PT
ObscureEmpyre
SSC Member
  • Total Posts : 974
  • Reward points : 0
  • Joined: 2012/01/15 14:40:05
  • Status: offline
  • Ribbons : 7
Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/22 08:51:37 (permalink)
Outofstock4ever
ObscureEmpyre
Outofstock4ever
Xavier Zepherious
currently every brand and type are affected

AMD
vega 64
rX500 series
and 6000 series

nvidia
1000 series
2000 series
3000 series

doesn't matter what AIB they are all affected
yes 3090 are the most affected because they have the highest power draw of any card

ive went thru all the post on all the forums

i dare say the cards with the most problems are the ones with the highest power draws

it could be a PSU overpower issue 
could also be that were driving the cards too hard and designers did not build in enough power protection to the GPU design or card design
this would be because engineers try to keep the cards cost down rather than build in excess protection

in any event this would be not the AIB fault but rather NVIDIA's and AMD fault for not requiring higher OCP standards and limits

ps: however realize this will drive the price of future card higher due to more protection measures  or higher quality parts  or more of them to be used






can we get some quotes about this other cards you found all over the internet. Not doubting you, but all points to a specific card, AIB and model problem.

Well, JayzTwoCents posted on Twitter that he’s received word from followers that the following cards have all experienced this problem:

RX590
6800
6800XT
6900XT
3080Ti
3090

So, it doesn’t seem to be limited to a specific AIB or model GPU.



a bit biased and out of his league, also twitter. No mention to other cards failing anywhere especially amd cards. Zero. This seems to be a distraction to the real problem the ftw3 3090


Talk about confirmation bias.


liud21
iCX Member
  • Total Posts : 360
  • Reward points : 0
  • Joined: 2020/09/22 20:02:51
  • Status: offline
  • Ribbons : 0
Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/22 08:58:31 (permalink)
So they went from your it's your crappy/cheap PSU/PSU cables, to you can't run max settings in a software design to run on a GTX970 with your top of the line $2000 GPU, to well, EVGA sold the most cards compared to the other AIBs. Then points to 2 reported failures from AMD. Ive scroll through the reddit comments and barely see any other AIBs, millions played that Beta, you mean to tell me there isn't even 2 dozen failures from other AIBs?
Mordgier
New Member
  • Total Posts : 40
  • Reward points : 0
  • Joined: 2020/11/01 10:41:13
  • Status: offline
  • Ribbons : 0
Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/22 09:00:10 (permalink)
Outofstock4ever
ObscureEmpyre
Outofstock4ever
Xavier Zepherious
currently every brand and type are affected

AMD
vega 64
rX500 series
and 6000 series

nvidia
1000 series
2000 series
3000 series

doesn't matter what AIB they are all affected
yes 3090 are the most affected because they have the highest power draw of any card

ive went thru all the post on all the forums

i dare say the cards with the most problems are the ones with the highest power draws

it could be a PSU overpower issue 
could also be that were driving the cards too hard and designers did not build in enough power protection to the GPU design or card design
this would be because engineers try to keep the cards cost down rather than build in excess protection

in any event this would be not the AIB fault but rather NVIDIA's and AMD fault for not requiring higher OCP standards and limits

ps: however realize this will drive the price of future card higher due to more protection measures  or higher quality parts  or more of them to be used






can we get some quotes about this other cards you found all over the internet. Not doubting you, but all points to a specific card, AIB and model problem.

Well, JayzTwoCents posted on Twitter that he’s received word from followers that the following cards have all experienced this problem:

RX590
6800
6800XT
6900XT
3080Ti
3090

So, it doesn’t seem to be limited to a specific AIB or model GPU.



a bit biased and out of his league, also twitter. No mention to other cards failing anywhere especially amd cards. Zero. This seems to be a distraction to the real problem the ftw3 3090




The failure rate would be a far more valid indicator of the issue - it's fair to say that NW stresses cards more than it should.
 
It's fair to say that all cards are more likely to fail under high stress.
 
Yet if 5% of EVGA 3090s fail but 1% of other cards under the same conditions - it's still fair to say that it's an EVGA 3090 issue.
 
No matter how you look at it, EVGA 3090 FTW3 is over represented in the failures.
liud21
iCX Member
  • Total Posts : 360
  • Reward points : 0
  • Joined: 2020/09/22 20:02:51
  • Status: offline
  • Ribbons : 0
Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/22 09:04:31 (permalink)
Jay is just trying to save himself, EVGA probably sent him a email or Jay realize what he might have done and is doing damage control... Those 30 series SUPER cards are coming out soon. And How bad would it be if Jay didn't get one from EVGA to do his video... 😂. This isn't a new issue, early in the year the 3090FTW3 we're getting Red LED of death, and there was a thread on it with over 50 pages... EVGA was silent on the issue, I wouldn't be surprised if they remain so on this issue too...
tsbond
iCX Member
  • Total Posts : 273
  • Reward points : 0
  • Joined: 2017/02/10 20:23:39
  • Status: offline
  • Ribbons : 0
Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/22 09:48:24 (permalink)
There is always the fact that we don't know how many are actually true and just bandwagon on the interwebs. Some of the reports I see on Steam are just ridiculous.
Outofstock4ever
Superclocked Member
  • Total Posts : 210
  • Reward points : 0
  • Joined: 2021/02/26 11:13:20
  • Status: offline
  • Ribbons : 0
Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/22 09:57:49 (permalink)
spider1701
 
none of the synthetic benchmarks generates 1000+ FPS in given resolution. Please note that benchmarks are build measure card by given set of capabilities and there is no way to overload card during bench. For reference in the past FURMARK was killing cards too until driver makers made specifically filters for it.
Also please note that I have not told that it it is not HW fault.
 
To be honest it is both HW and SW. It could be even improper NVIDIA design of platform as whole.
One thing is certain it is SW causing the card to die in conjunction with HW/Driver design (so if you want NW than keep FPS limiter on)




you do know it's not the fps number that generates heat right? what relevance does the fps number have here? if it's 1000fps does the gpu goes to 200% load? what matters is the thermal load, the wattage. The card failed in protection itself like it should, period.

EU- 12G-P5-3657-KR     2/25/2021 9:01:27 AM PT
EU - 08G-P5-3751-KR     2/22/2021 12:11:04 PM PT    
EU - 08G-P5-3663-KR     1/25/2021 8:05:36 AM PT
Page: << < ..1112131415.. > >> Showing page 11 of 46
Jump to:
  • Back to Mobile