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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/21 13:38:18 (permalink)
Since the cards should throttle down at top heat threshold it sounds like something else breaking.
 
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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/21 13:39:49 (permalink)
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For anyone experiencing issues as I have stated previously contact EVGA support. EVGA is investigating. 


The real question is will evga finally explain what is happening and provide a proper fix for all or just keep trying to sweep it under the rug like with lol and Halo?


As for Jay saying other cards are doing it. Maybe so, evga had a few non ftws fail too but the failure rates of ftw vs any other card seem to be wayyyyyyyyyyy higher. I just hope evga doesn't try to play the silent game like before.
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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/21 13:40:40 (permalink)
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Reports of dead 30 series cards had almost stopped for a few months. Now there's an explosion of them. Clearly something weird is going on. It seems really strange to think a video game (New World) is to blame. Either the new Nvidia driver is doing something wonky or NW is exposing a flaw in these cards that, somehow, hasn't been revealed by anything else.
 
BTW, that Jay guy said that there are reports of this happening in 30 series cards from manufacturers other than EVGA, whereas a lot of people here are making it out like it's an EVGA-only problem.


Jay had a good point that EVGA has a lot of 3090s in the wild, and I believe that, at least for the US. And that can give the impression that it’s predominately an EVGA problem when it’s not.

However, EVGA as the manufacturer here still has the responsibility to address issues affecting their product, regardless of if it’s happening to other AIB cards or not. If it’s a dead GPU, they RMA, and I don’t doubt they will honor that like they always do. But they should also look into the problem and try to come up with mitigation techniques (BIOS updates, PSAs to customers about suggested settings, etc). At the same time, the game developers should be looking at their code (from what I hear this is a game in Beta, not even released) to figure out what’s causing this behavior and limit it on their end too.

This isn’t a problem that needs to be solely shouldered by one party. It can be worked from multiple angles in a collaborative effort.

But given the reality of the world, everyone will play the Spider-Man meme blame game.



Good post, I agree.
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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/21 13:44:01 (permalink)
Game do not brick cards... cards that exceed their capabilities brick themselves. Now I have been seeing issues where 3090s and 3080s fry themselves since they came out. I would monitor these temps and if they look iffy, just drop the power profile slightly in X1. 
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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/21 13:44:35 (permalink)
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For anyone experiencing issues as I have stated previously contact EVGA support. EVGA is investigating. 


The real question is will evga finally explain what is happening and provide a proper fix for all or just keep trying to sweep it under the rug like with lol and Halo?


As for Jay saying other cards are doing it. Maybe so, evga had a few non ftws fail too but the failure rates of ftw vs any other card seem to be wayyyyyyyyyyy higher. I just hope evga doesn't try to play the silent game like before.



This is another thing that's weird, and which I haven't seen discussed.
 
Before, 30 series card deaths seemed to have a very strong tendency to happen while people were playing older games, such as Halo and LoL, that aren't that demanding. It seems the explanation is that voltage spikes in low power states were killing the cards.
 
By contrast, it looks like New World is really stressing the cards out, and now they're dying from that.
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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/21 13:47:30 (permalink)
None of this really adds up does anyone have concrete proof that this game has caused this for this card, I have a MSI Ventus OC 3090 and a Evga 3090 FTW3 Ultra But I dont have the game to test to see if I can see if it causes any type of issue or what it maybe. Id really like to know if this is real or fake news about a game killing a GPU it just sounds very absurd to me.
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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/21 13:49:33 (permalink)
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None of this really adds up does anyone have concrete proof that this game has caused this for this card, I have a MSI Ventus OC 3090 and a Evga 3090 FTW3 Ultra But I dont have the game to test to see if I can see if it causes any type of issue or what it maybe. Id really like to know if this is real or fake news about a game killing a GPU it just sounds very absurd to me.




You would need to play the game. It is like there are no limits to what it will start pulling from a card. The ultimate stress test I guess!
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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/21 13:49:41 (permalink)
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None of this really adds up does anyone have concrete proof that this game has caused this for this card, I have a MSI Ventus OC 3090 and a Evga 3090 FTW3 Ultra But I dont have the game to test to see if I can see if it causes any type of issue or what it maybe. Id really like to know if this is real or fake news about a game killing a GPU it just sounds very absurd to me.




Yeah it's completely ridiculous.  People just don't take care of their EQUIPMENT and treat it like an APPLIANCE.
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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/21 13:51:07 (permalink)
My 3080ti ftw3 died 20 min out of the box. Went pop, red light of death above 3rd power connector. Rma, and for a new card back with no issue. Rev 0.1, 2114 card.
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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/21 13:53:11 (permalink)
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When initiating an RMA you can now select New World as a reason. Seems like EVGA support has recognized this issue.



We need Days Gone also. I got black screen (FTW3 3080) playing this game.
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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/21 13:54:38 (permalink)
There was speculation that 3080TI might also be affected- I had no issues playing on the FTW3 but I also heard the report, got scared, and stopped playing lol
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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/21 13:56:31 (permalink)
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None of this really adds up does anyone have concrete proof that this game has caused this for this card, I have a MSI Ventus OC 3090 and a Evga 3090 FTW3 Ultra But I dont have the game to test to see if I can see if it causes any type of issue or what it maybe. Id really like to know if this is real or fake news about a game killing a GPU it just sounds very absurd to me.




You would need to play the game. It is like there are no limits to what it will start pulling from a card. The ultimate stress test I guess!


 
I have stressed my gpus for many many months now with benchmarking Ive owned mine since the card released and I havent had any issues with mine. 
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None of this really adds up does anyone have concrete proof that this game has caused this for this card, I have a MSI Ventus OC 3090 and a Evga 3090 FTW3 Ultra But I dont have the game to test to see if I can see if it causes any type of issue or what it maybe. Id really like to know if this is real or fake news about a game killing a GPU it just sounds very absurd to me.




Yeah it's completely ridiculous.  People just don't take care of their EQUIPMENT and treat it like an APPLIANCE.



Yeah I havent had any issues with my cards... I have 2 and I have put them to some stress for many months now. 
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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/21 14:02:58 (permalink)
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None of this really adds up does anyone have concrete proof that this game has caused this for this card, I have a MSI Ventus OC 3090 and a Evga 3090 FTW3 Ultra But I dont have the game to test to see if I can see if it causes any type of issue or what it maybe. Id really like to know if this is real or fake news about a game killing a GPU it just sounds very absurd to me.




Yeah it's completely ridiculous.  People just don't take care of their EQUIPMENT and treat it like an APPLIANCE.


What is it exactly that people should be doing to "take care of their EQUIPMENT" in this case?
 
You're gonna blame the PSU? Nope. Wrong, try again.
 
You're gonna blame a bad overclock? Nope. Wrong, try again.
 
You're gonna blame a case with bad airflow? Nope, wrong, try again.
 
You have a 3090, right? so put your money where your mouth is. Play the game at settings appropriate for the most powerful gaming GPU out there. Let's see what kind of FPS you can get.
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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/21 14:04:29 (permalink)
 
Bios & native HW protection should prevent damage from software.  Obv there's malware and other types of exploitation but that's why they're called that.
 
 
Sajin
If you want to play with vsync off then you should be able to with the card being able to handle it. If the card can’t handle it then it isn’t designed correctly.



Agreed.  
 
Did EVGA ever make a comment about the red light issue?  I though Jacob implied he would some months ago.
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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/21 14:08:25 (permalink)
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Did EVGA ever make a comment about the red light issue?  I though Jacob implied he would some months ago.

Haven’t seen anything.

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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/21 14:08:50 (permalink)
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If you want to play with vsync off then you should be able to with the card being able to handle it. If the card can’t handle it then it isn’t designed correctly.



 
Agreed, you should not need vsync turned on so your graphics card dont turn into a paper weight. 



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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/21 14:18:32 (permalink)
Software is meant to push the limits of hardware.
 
While there are plenty of bad software developers, who'll brute-force solutions rather then developed elegant/efficient solutions, hardware should always govern how it's used and operate within safe parameters. 
 
It's not the software developer's responsibility to implement safeguards that protect thousands+ of combinations of hardware possible; although, I'm curious if poor coding could have played a role by explioting an unknown weakness in the hardware. If this is the case, it would have happened sooner or later and people are lucky that this was discovered while their warranty is still valid.
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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/21 14:19:58 (permalink)
Hello, is there a solution or reason why only EVGA cards are affected here?


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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/21 14:36:31 (permalink)
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Hello, is there a solution or reason why only EVGA cards are affected here?


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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/21 14:39:07 (permalink)
Luckily I have a GSYNC monitor which protected my 3090 FTW last night when I played the game for the first time for a couple of hours. My monitor can do a max of 120 FPS so I see no need to have the card generating more frames than that.
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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/21 14:42:39 (permalink)
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What is it exactly that people should be doing to "take care of their EQUIPMENT" in this case?
 
You're gonna blame the PSU? Nope. Wrong, try again.
 
You're gonna blame a bad overclock? Nope. Wrong, try again.
 
You're gonna blame a case with bad airflow? Nope, wrong, try again.
 
You have a 3090, right? so put your money where your mouth is. Play the game at settings appropriate for the most powerful gaming GPU out there. Let's see what kind of FPS you can get.



Man, people who buy these 3090's just expect them to game everything no sweat and then cook them breakfast.  Like an appliance.
 
Been thinking about stepping up to 3090 SLI, just to make people mad.


3090 in SLI is pretty nice.... I wish I had New world so I can test it and see how many fps I can get in the menu with 3090s in SLI Would it kill both cards? This reminds me when MLCCs were an "issue too!" JK
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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/21 14:48:36 (permalink)
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What is it exactly that people should be doing to "take care of their EQUIPMENT" in this case?
 
You're gonna blame the PSU? Nope. Wrong, try again.
 
You're gonna blame a bad overclock? Nope. Wrong, try again.
 
You're gonna blame a case with bad airflow? Nope, wrong, try again.
 
You have a 3090, right? so put your money where your mouth is. Play the game at settings appropriate for the most powerful gaming GPU out there. Let's see what kind of FPS you can get.



Man, people who buy these 3090's just expect them to game everything no sweat and then cook them breakfast.  Like an appliance.
 
Been thinking about stepping up to 3090 SLI, just to make people mad.


3090 in SLI is pretty nice.... I wish I had New world so I can test it and see how many fps I can get in the menu with 3090s in SLI Would it kill both cards? This reminds me when MLCCs were an "issue too!" JK




If you can play around with 3090 SLI just go buy the game.
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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/21 14:50:10 (permalink)
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What is it exactly that people should be doing to "take care of their EQUIPMENT" in this case?
 
You're gonna blame the PSU? Nope. Wrong, try again.
 
You're gonna blame a bad overclock? Nope. Wrong, try again.
 
You're gonna blame a case with bad airflow? Nope, wrong, try again.
 
You have a 3090, right? so put your money where your mouth is. Play the game at settings appropriate for the most powerful gaming GPU out there. Let's see what kind of FPS you can get.



Man, people who buy these 3090's just expect them to game everything no sweat and then cook them breakfast.  Like an appliance.
 
Been thinking about stepping up to 3090 SLI, just to make people mad.


3090 in SLI is pretty nice.... I wish I had New world so I can test it and see how many fps I can get in the menu with 3090s in SLI Would it kill both cards? This reminds me when MLCCs were an "issue too!" JK




If you can play around with 3090 SLI just go buy the game.


Id buy it If I could buy it on steam....
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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/21 14:51:37 (permalink)
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What is it exactly that people should be doing to "take care of their EQUIPMENT" in this case?
 
You're gonna blame the PSU? Nope. Wrong, try again.
 
You're gonna blame a bad overclock? Nope. Wrong, try again.
 
You're gonna blame a case with bad airflow? Nope, wrong, try again.
 
You have a 3090, right? so put your money where your mouth is. Play the game at settings appropriate for the most powerful gaming GPU out there. Let's see what kind of FPS you can get.



Man, people who buy these 3090's just expect them to game everything no sweat and then cook them breakfast.  Like an appliance.
 
Been thinking about stepping up to 3090 SLI, just to make people mad.


3090 in SLI is pretty nice.... I wish I had New world so I can test it and see how many fps I can get in the menu with 3090s in SLI Would it kill both cards? This reminds me when MLCCs were an "issue too!" JK




If you can play around with 3090 SLI just go buy the game.


Exactly, put your money where your mouth is. It's beta, you get it if you preorder, cancel the preorder after. Or try LoL or MCC.
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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/21 14:52:21 (permalink)
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What is it exactly that people should be doing to "take care of their EQUIPMENT" in this case?
 
You're gonna blame the PSU? Nope. Wrong, try again.
 
You're gonna blame a bad overclock? Nope. Wrong, try again.
 
You're gonna blame a case with bad airflow? Nope, wrong, try again.
 
You have a 3090, right? so put your money where your mouth is. Play the game at settings appropriate for the most powerful gaming GPU out there. Let's see what kind of FPS you can get.



Man, people who buy these 3090's just expect them to game everything no sweat and then cook them breakfast.  Like an appliance.
 
Been thinking about stepping up to 3090 SLI, just to make people mad.


3090 in SLI is pretty nice.... I wish I had New world so I can test it and see how many fps I can get in the menu with 3090s in SLI Would it kill both cards? This reminds me when MLCCs were an "issue too!" JK




If you can play around with 3090 SLI just go buy the game.


Id buy it If I could buy it on steam....


 
You can buy it on Steam. That is where most of the purchase happen.
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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/21 14:54:55 (permalink)
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What is it exactly that people should be doing to "take care of their EQUIPMENT" in this case?
 
You're gonna blame the PSU? Nope. Wrong, try again.
 
You're gonna blame a bad overclock? Nope. Wrong, try again.
 
You're gonna blame a case with bad airflow? Nope, wrong, try again.
 
You have a 3090, right? so put your money where your mouth is. Play the game at settings appropriate for the most powerful gaming GPU out there. Let's see what kind of FPS you can get.



Man, people who buy these 3090's just expect them to game everything no sweat and then cook them breakfast.  Like an appliance.
 
Been thinking about stepping up to 3090 SLI, just to make people mad.


3090 in SLI is pretty nice.... I wish I had New world so I can test it and see how many fps I can get in the menu with 3090s in SLI Would it kill both cards? This reminds me when MLCCs were an "issue too!" JK




If you can play around with 3090 SLI just go buy the game.


Id buy it If I could buy it on steam....


 
You can buy it on Steam. That is where most of the purchase happen.


Doesnt say you get a beta key on steam though, I guess ill try it...
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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/21 14:57:30 (permalink)
You automatically get access to the Closed Beta if you pre order the game.
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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/21 15:03:18 (permalink)
I would never have thought that we'd get to a stage where in GPU arguments people will unironically ponder the question of "Yeah, but can it run New World?"
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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/21 15:07:22 (permalink)
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Software is meant to push the limits of hardware.
 
While there are plenty of bad software developers, who'll brute-force solutions rather then developed elegant/efficient solutions, hardware should always govern how it's used and operate within safe parameters. 
 
It's not the software developer's responsibility to implement safeguards that protect thousands+ of combinations of hardware possible; although, I'm curious if poor coding could have played a role by explioting an unknown weakness in the hardware. If this is the case, it would have happened sooner or later and people are lucky that this was discovered while their warranty is still valid.



Software doesn't kill a card. The card kills the card. Software may open up some defect on the card but it is ultimately the card.
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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/21 15:13:32 (permalink)
It seems it only affect the 3090 but what about the 3090 Kingping ? 
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