Since the cards should throttle down at top heat threshold it sounds like something else breaking.
 

gsrcrxsi

Hefbn87
Reports of dead 30 series cards had almost stopped for a few months. Now there's an explosion of them. Clearly something weird is going on. It seems really strange to think a video game (New World) is to blame. Either the new Nvidia driver is doing something wonky or NW is exposing a flaw in these cards that, somehow, hasn't been revealed by anything else.
 
BTW, that Jay guy said that there are reports of this happening in 30 series cards from manufacturers other than EVGA, whereas a lot of people here are making it out like it's an EVGA-only problem.

Jay had a good point that EVGA has a lot of 3090s in the wild, and I believe that, at least for the US. And that can give the impression that it’s predominately an EVGA problem when it’s not.

However, EVGA as the manufacturer here still has the responsibility to address issues affecting their product, regardless of if it’s happening to other AIB cards or not. If it’s a dead GPU, they RMA, and I don’t doubt they will honor that like they always do. But they should also look into the problem and try to come up with mitigation techniques (BIOS updates, PSAs to customers about suggested settings, etc). At the same time, the game developers should be looking at their code (from what I hear this is a game in Beta, not even released) to figure out what’s causing this behavior and limit it on their end too.

This isn’t a problem that needs to be solely shouldered by one party. It can be worked from multiple angles in a collaborative effort.

But given the reality of the world, everyone will play the Spider-Man meme blame game.

Good post, I agree.

Bruno747

rjohnson11
For anyone experiencing issues as I have stated previously contact EVGA support. EVGA is investigating. 

The real question is will evga finally explain what is happening and provide a proper fix for all or just keep trying to sweep it under the rug like with lol and Halo?


As for Jay saying other cards are doing it. Maybe so, evga had a few non ftws fail too but the failure rates of ftw vs any other card seem to be wayyyyyyyyyyy higher. I just hope evga doesn't try to play the silent game like before.

This is another thing that's weird, and which I haven't seen discussed.
 
Before, 30 series card deaths seemed to have a very strong tendency to happen while people were playing older games, such as Halo and LoL, that aren't that demanding. It seems the explanation is that voltage spikes in low power states were killing the cards.
 
By contrast, it looks like New World is really stressing the cards out, and now they're dying from that.

deathlessdd
None of this really adds up does anyone have concrete proof that this game has caused this for this card, I have a MSI Ventus OC 3090 and a Evga 3090 FTW3 Ultra But I dont have the game to test to see if I can see if it causes any type of issue or what it maybe. Id really like to know if this is real or fake news about a game killing a GPU it just sounds very absurd to me.

You would need to play the game. It is like there are no limits to what it will start pulling from a card. The ultimate stress test I guess!

My 3080ti ftw3 died 20 min out of the box. Went pop, red light of death above 3rd power connector. Rma, and for a new card back with no issue. Rev 0.1, 2114 card.

There was speculation that 3080TI might also be affected- I had no issues playing on the FTW3 but I also heard the report, got scared, and stopped playing lol

kevinc313

deathlessdd
None of this really adds up does anyone have concrete proof that this game has caused this for this card, I have a MSI Ventus OC 3090 and a Evga 3090 FTW3 Ultra But I dont have the game to test to see if I can see if it causes any type of issue or what it maybe. Id really like to know if this is real or fake news about a game killing a GPU it just sounds very absurd to me.

Yeah it's completely ridiculous.  People just don't take care of their EQUIPMENT and treat it like an APPLIANCE.

What is it exactly that people should be doing to "take care of their EQUIPMENT" in this case?
 
You're gonna blame the PSU? Nope. Wrong, try again.
 
You're gonna blame a bad overclock? Nope. Wrong, try again.
 
You're gonna blame a case with bad airflow? Nope, wrong, try again.
 
You have a 3090, right? so put your money where your mouth is. Play the game at settings appropriate for the most powerful gaming GPU out there. Let's see what kind of FPS you can get.

_Gir_
Did EVGA ever make a comment about the red light issue?  I though Jacob implied he would some months ago.

Haven’t seen anything.

Software is meant to push the limits of hardware.
 
While there are plenty of bad software developers, who'll brute-force solutions rather then developed elegant/efficient solutions, hardware should always govern how it's used and operate within safe parameters. 
 
It's not the software developer's responsibility to implement safeguards that protect thousands+ of combinations of hardware possible; although, I'm curious if poor coding could have played a role by explioting an unknown weakness in the hardware. If this is the case, it would have happened sooner or later and people are lucky that this was discovered while their warranty is still valid.

Zanza741
Hello, is there a solution or reason why only EVGA cards are affected here?


Greetings

Low cost components on the board ??

kevinc313

jaredbyoung
What is it exactly that people should be doing to "take care of their EQUIPMENT" in this case?
 
You're gonna blame the PSU? Nope. Wrong, try again.
 
You're gonna blame a bad overclock? Nope. Wrong, try again.
 
You're gonna blame a case with bad airflow? Nope, wrong, try again.
 
You have a 3090, right? so put your money where your mouth is. Play the game at settings appropriate for the most powerful gaming GPU out there. Let's see what kind of FPS you can get.

Man, people who buy these 3090's just expect them to game everything no sweat and then cook them breakfast.  Like an appliance.
 
Been thinking about stepping up to 3090 SLI, just to make people mad.

3090 in SLI is pretty nice.... I wish I had New world so I can test it and see how many fps I can get in the menu with 3090s in SLI Would it kill both cards? This reminds me when MLCCs were an "issue too!" JK

tsbond

deathlessdd

kevinc313

jaredbyoung
What is it exactly that people should be doing to "take care of their EQUIPMENT" in this case?
 
You're gonna blame the PSU? Nope. Wrong, try again.
 
You're gonna blame a bad overclock? Nope. Wrong, try again.
 
You're gonna blame a case with bad airflow? Nope, wrong, try again.
 
You have a 3090, right? so put your money where your mouth is. Play the game at settings appropriate for the most powerful gaming GPU out there. Let's see what kind of FPS you can get.

Man, people who buy these 3090's just expect them to game everything no sweat and then cook them breakfast.  Like an appliance.
 
Been thinking about stepping up to 3090 SLI, just to make people mad.

3090 in SLI is pretty nice.... I wish I had New world so I can test it and see how many fps I can get in the menu with 3090s in SLI Would it kill both cards? This reminds me when MLCCs were an "issue too!" JK

If you can play around with 3090 SLI just go buy the game.

Id buy it If I could buy it on steam....

deathlessdd

tsbond

deathlessdd

kevinc313

jaredbyoung
What is it exactly that people should be doing to "take care of their EQUIPMENT" in this case?
 
You're gonna blame the PSU? Nope. Wrong, try again.
 
You're gonna blame a bad overclock? Nope. Wrong, try again.
 
You're gonna blame a case with bad airflow? Nope, wrong, try again.
 
You have a 3090, right? so put your money where your mouth is. Play the game at settings appropriate for the most powerful gaming GPU out there. Let's see what kind of FPS you can get.

Man, people who buy these 3090's just expect them to game everything no sweat and then cook them breakfast.  Like an appliance.
 
Been thinking about stepping up to 3090 SLI, just to make people mad.

3090 in SLI is pretty nice.... I wish I had New world so I can test it and see how many fps I can get in the menu with 3090s in SLI Would it kill both cards? This reminds me when MLCCs were an "issue too!" JK

If you can play around with 3090 SLI just go buy the game.

Id buy it If I could buy it on steam....

 
You can buy it on Steam. That is where most of the purchase happen.

You automatically get access to the Closed Beta if you pre order the game.

gimeno
Software is meant to push the limits of hardware.
 
While there are plenty of bad software developers, who'll brute-force solutions rather then developed elegant/efficient solutions, hardware should always govern how it's used and operate within safe parameters. 
 
It's not the software developer's responsibility to implement safeguards that protect thousands+ of combinations of hardware possible; although, I'm curious if poor coding could have played a role by explioting an unknown weakness in the hardware. If this is the case, it would have happened sooner or later and people are lucky that this was discovered while their warranty is still valid.

Software doesn't kill a card. The card kills the card. Software may open up some defect on the card but it is ultimately the card.