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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/21 08:16:06 (permalink)
https://forums.evga.com/Fixing-EVGA39s-7-Figure-Problem-with-FTW3-30-Series-cards-m3217284.aspx Second verse, same as the first
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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/21 08:34:29 (permalink)
This same **** again... Unlike many fellas who can, I use this board also for work and can't afford to lose it and send it over intl shipping in case it blows up.
The problematic component probably won't show its temperature nowhere... Should be something along the power rails that blows up. We can't see it coming, just signals when the screen flicker.
Seriously EVGA... You STILL didn't fix this mess you made. For Christ sake!
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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/21 08:39:20 (permalink)
Any reports of founders edition cards getting killed ?

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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/21 09:27:33 (permalink)
Just evga arokhantos
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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/21 09:33:03 (permalink)
A good card should never ever die in gaming session at safe and sound stock settings, even 24/7. It is a good thing to stress test your card with uncapped fps if you have doubts about it failing, and to push it to 100% like it meant to be, and if it dies it is defective and needs to be replaced under warranty, plain and simple. It is not a good advice to tell people to stop playing a game or capping their fps to prevent hardware failure. Do you prefer it to fail now or one day after the warranty expires?
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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/21 09:40:07 (permalink)
EVGA Support is just adding more fun to the mix... 
I asked them for advice yesterday after my black screens (card still alive), sent over logs, GPU-Z screenshots and everything.

They told me to use the latest "stable" bios instead and sent me an old bios version (94.02.26.48.16). 
Precision X1 immediately told me that now Resizable Bar was disabled and I should update the Bios..... gg
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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/21 09:47:06 (permalink)
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EVGA Support is just adding more fun to the mix... 
I asked them for advice yesterday after my black screens (card still alive), sent over logs, GPU-Z screenshots and everything.

They told me to use the latest "stable" bios instead and sent me an old bios version (94.02.26.48.16). 
Precision X1 immediately told me that now Resizable Bar was disabled and I should update the Bios..... gg


Even they are completely lost about what to do. The fact is that the card is defective from factory (probably a design flaw on the power delivery system) and they can't afford to make a recall. That's the thing.
At least now we're getting heavy media coverage from the major outlets, so MAYBE EVGA now get to do something about it.
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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/21 09:52:06 (permalink)
Kind of funny that we have to worry about playing games on a flagship GPU which is designed....wait for it......to play games  

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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/21 09:52:52 (permalink)
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A good card should never ever die in gaming session at safe and sound stock settings, even 24/7. It is a good thing to stress test your card with uncapped fps if you have doubts about it failing, and to push it to 100% like it meant to be, and if it dies it is defective and needs to be replaced under warranty, plain and simple. It is not a good advice to tell people to stop playing a game or capping their fps to prevent hardware failure. Do you prefer it to fail now or one day after the warranty expires?




But Muh Undervolt.
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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/21 09:56:51 (permalink)
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https://videocardz.com/newz/amazons-new-world-game-is-bricking-geforce-rtx-3090-graphics-cards
 
Supposedly the game is bricking 3090 cards




Where can I play this game?  I want run it, Furmark and Prime95 at the same time.
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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/21 10:08:29 (permalink)
Non sense! You guys are probably using crappy PSUs...
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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/21 10:11:22 (permalink)
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https://videocardz.com/newz/amazons-new-world-game-is-bricking-geforce-rtx-3090-graphics-cards
 
Supposedly the game is bricking 3090 cards




Where can I play this game?  I want run it, Furmark and Prime95 at the same time.




Sadly there is no free open beta. You can buy it from Amazon or Steam and you will get access to the closed beta. 
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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/21 10:12:47 (permalink)
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Non sense! You guys are probably using crappy PSUs...

Corsair AX1200i crappy enough ? 
The amount of people who disregard everything beyond their scope of experience is frightening...
Its not a coincidence that most of the people affected so far have the exact same GPU model.
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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/21 10:15:22 (permalink)
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Non sense! You guys are probably using crappy PSUs...

Corsair AX1200i crappy enough ? 
The amount of people who disregard everything beyond their scope of experience is frightening...
Its not a coincidence that most of the people affected so far have the exact same GPU model.

I'm just mocking those that are lurking, they was defending EVGA a few months ago, when 3090s were dying pretty much the same way. I'm Wondering if they would come and comment on this thread.... Or will they ignore this... 😂
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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/21 10:20:08 (permalink)
so all these people having issues. I wonder if you guys are checking the temps? not just gpu but memory too. What temps are you getting? cause if gpu is 80ish your memory is probably maxed out. Also wondering what temps you would get stock vs pad swap/new thermal paste. i know for a fact 3080/3090 in stock format come with **** pads not just evga, i have asus, msi, zotac, gigabyte, FE they all need pads swapped out of the box. 
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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/21 10:25:01 (permalink)
I was playing today and testing why my 3080 FTW3 was running so hot in this game, easy over 73C if uncapped. I did change all the thermal pads and even added some to the back of the PCB. According to EVGAs software the core at that time was 76C and all the other spots were 62-65C including the memory. My PC did reboot the first time I played the game uncapped, though it was capped to 144 on Nvidia Control Panel, but it turned back on and worked fine after capping it to 60FPS. Now I am worried.
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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/21 10:25:08 (permalink)
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so all these people having issues. I wonder if you guys are checking the temps? not just gpu but memory too. What temps are you getting? cause if gpu is 80ish your memory is probably maxed out. Also wondering what temps you would get stock vs pad swap/new thermal paste. i know for a fact 3080/3090 in stock format come with **** pads not just evga, i have asus, msi, zotac, gigabyte, FE they all need pads swapped out of the box. 


It's absurd to suggest that a $1900 card needs it's pads swapped out of the box.
 
It's absurd to suggest that consumers should watch their temps like hawks.
 
People are throwing 3090s in ETH mining rigs with OEM coolers and running them for months with VRAM hitting 110C just fine. 
 
People firing up a game should not fry the GPU without a fundamental design flaw.
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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/21 10:31:44 (permalink)
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so all these people having issues. I wonder if you guys are checking the temps? not just gpu but memory too. What temps are you getting? cause if gpu is 80ish your memory is probably maxed out. Also wondering what temps you would get stock vs pad swap/new thermal paste. i know for a fact 3080/3090 in stock format come with **** pads not just evga, i have asus, msi, zotac, gigabyte, FE they all need pads swapped out of the box. 


It's absurd to suggest that a $1900 card needs it's pads swapped out of the box.
 
It's absurd to suggest that consumers should watch their temps like hawks.
 
People are throwing 3090s in ETH mining rigs with OEM coolers and running them for months with VRAM hitting 110C just fine. 
 
People firing up a game should not fry the GPU without a fundamental design flaw.


its absurd ... don't even get me started on that. swapping out pads straight out of the box is annoying as F lol. hitting 110c for months? i dont think so, if your hitting 110c for months and mining then your doing something wrong cause at 110c your maybe getting half the m/h. I think hitting 110 for a few  hours might be ok but sustained for days would damage your card. thinking maybe the game might be overheating the memory / gpu and killing them?
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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/21 10:33:44 (permalink)
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https://videocardz.com/newz/amazons-new-world-game-is-bricking-geforce-rtx-3090-graphics-cards
 
Supposedly the game is bricking 3090 cards


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Yes, there are a few reddit threads about it as well (with alarming quantity of evga 3090 owners who have a dead card).





Lots of stupid people on Reddit.  Probably running undervolted in SFF with no frame cap or OSD.  Game created a perfect low voltage, high power load that cooks the GPU.


Then it means there are A LOT of such customers, the quantity is rather alarming, even frame capped folks report dying cards. This is new low to blame people for killing their cards simply because running an application.


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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/21 10:34:32 (permalink)
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I was playing today and testing why my 3080 FTW3 was running so hot in this game, easy over 73C if uncapped. I did change all the thermal pads and even added some to the back of the PCB. According to EVGAs software the core at that time was 76C and all the other spots were 62-65C including the memory. My PC did reboot the first time I played the game uncapped, though it was capped to 144 on Nvidia Control Panel, but it turned back on and worked fine after capping it to 60FPS. Now I am worried.

what junction temps were you getting cause my mem temps can say 60 but internal junction temp is was heats up Snipping Tool (gyazo.com)
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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/21 10:38:19 (permalink)
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so all these people having issues. I wonder if you guys are checking the temps? not just gpu but memory too. What temps are you getting? cause if gpu is 80ish your memory is probably maxed out. Also wondering what temps you would get stock vs pad swap/new thermal paste. i know for a fact 3080/3090 in stock format come with **** pads not just evga, i have asus, msi, zotac, gigabyte, FE they all need pads swapped out of the box. 


It's absurd to suggest that a $1900 card needs it's pads swapped out of the box.
 
It's absurd to suggest that consumers should watch their temps like hawks.
 
People are throwing 3090s in ETH mining rigs with OEM coolers and running them for months with VRAM hitting 110C just fine. 
 
People firing up a game should not fry the GPU without a fundamental design flaw.


its absurd ... don't even get me started on that. swapping out pads straight out of the box is annoying as F lol. hitting 110c for months? i dont think so, if your hitting 110c for months and mining then your doing something wrong cause at 110c your maybe getting half the m/h. I think hitting 110 for a few  hours might be ok but sustained for days would damage your card. thinking maybe the game might be overheating the memory / gpu and killing them?




 
My 3090 pushes 124-126MH at 106C vram and 50C core - not much I can do about the VRAM temps until WC backplates ship. Getting 100C+ VRAM temps while mining is normal for 3080s and 3090. And that's all with replaced pads and EK backplate - stock backplate it'd get to 108-110 VRAM temps. And yes - people absolutely run 3090s in mining rigs at 110C vram - and have been for over 6 months now without issues.
 
Point is I don't see the issues with the card frying being tied to temps. Else we'd see miners frying their cards - and they're not. They're fine despite the scary temps.
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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/21 10:38:33 (permalink)
Im not home right now, I'll check that when I get home today.
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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/21 10:44:42 (permalink)
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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/21 10:45:24 (permalink)
I've been playing the NW alpha since October and using a 3080 FTW3 Ultra to do it since November 21st.
 
This is probably the kiss of death *knocks wood* but I've only had one issue with it in New World and that was after the MS patch that, for some, dropped FPS drastically. In my case my FPS jumped to over 600+FPS and I got nothing but black screens on entering the game. Ended up having to reinstall Win10 and everything else but after that I just capped my FPS to 165 in the Nvidia drivers and have never had another issue in well over 1000 hours of game play.
 
My fans DO, infrequently, ramp up for 5-10 seconds during game play but I have a pretty aggressive fan curve defined in PX1 so that's not surprising. Other than that /shrug I got nothing.

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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/21 10:47:29 (permalink)
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https://videocardz.com/newz/amazons-new-world-game-is-bricking-geforce-rtx-3090-graphics-cards
 
Supposedly the game is bricking 3090 cards


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Yes, there are a few reddit threads about it as well (with alarming quantity of evga 3090 owners who have a dead card).





Lots of stupid people on Reddit.  Probably running undervolted in SFF with no frame cap or OSD.  Game created a perfect low voltage, high power load that cooks the GPU.


Then it means there are A LOT of such customers, the quantity is rather alarming, even frame capped folks report dying cards. This is new low to blame people for killing their cards simply because running an application.




I'm reading the reddit thread right now.  Bunch of weeb mmo players.  Not a single person citing what their temps and power limits were at the time of failure, because they weren't monitoring them.
 
Lots of clowns on Reddit (and here) advocating undervolt.  But you can still fry a card with undervolt.
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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/21 10:48:12 (permalink)
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I'm reading the reddit thread right now.  Bunch of weeb mmo players.  Not a single person citing what their temps and power limits were at the time of failure, because they weren't monitoring them.




And they shouldn't have to.....
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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/21 10:50:47 (permalink)
I have 3080 Ftw3 since November, tried Alpha several times without issues, but now I'm scared, my card is limited by my CPU (Ryzen3600) (I play 1080p/144hz),and I will change to new cpu in September, it's possible this will "unlock" my card pushing it to the limit and reproduce these errors? :/
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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/21 10:51:21 (permalink)
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so all these people having issues. I wonder if you guys are checking the temps? not just gpu but memory too. What temps are you getting? cause if gpu is 80ish your memory is probably maxed out. Also wondering what temps you would get stock vs pad swap/new thermal paste. i know for a fact 3080/3090 in stock format come with **** pads not just evga, i have asus, msi, zotac, gigabyte, FE they all need pads swapped out of the box. 


It's absurd to suggest that a $1900 card needs it's pads swapped out of the box.
 
It's absurd to suggest that consumers should watch their temps like hawks.
 
People are throwing 3090s in ETH mining rigs with OEM coolers and running them for months with VRAM hitting 110C just fine. 
 
People firing up a game should not fry the GPU without a fundamental design flaw.


its absurd ... don't even get me started on that. swapping out pads straight out of the box is annoying as F lol. hitting 110c for months? i dont think so, if your hitting 110c for months and mining then your doing something wrong cause at 110c your maybe getting half the m/h. I think hitting 110 for a few  hours might be ok but sustained for days would damage your card. thinking maybe the game might be overheating the memory / gpu and killing them?




 
My 3090 pushes 124-126MH at 106C vram and 50C core - not much I can do about the VRAM temps until WC backplates ship. Getting 100C+ VRAM temps while mining is normal for 3080s and 3090. And that's all with replaced pads and EK backplate - stock backplate it'd get to 108-110 VRAM temps. And yes - people absolutely run 3090s in mining rigs at 110C vram - and have been for over 6 months now without issues.
 
Point is I don't see the issues with the card frying being tied to temps. Else we'd see miners frying their cards - and they're not. They're fine despite the scary temps.


most miners I talk to keep it below 100, all my 3080 with swapped pads are around 88-90 ish mem junction, not familiar of anyone running 110 for months cause that temp is when the cards throttle way down so its kinda counter productive to run them at that temp. i know for a fact that all my 3080 out of the box hit max temp. but you might be right, maybe temp has nothing to do with it, but who knows. kinda strange, but from the posts i've read most are saying their gpu temp hits mid 80s and I know if your gpu is at mid 80s your memory is most definitly hitting max temp.
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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/21 10:51:36 (permalink)
I wonder if the cards dying are rev 0.1 or rev 1.0. Early adopters got rev 0.1 then the special 3090oc rma swapped those out for the rev 1.0. I believe they changed out the power controller.

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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/07/21 10:52:27 (permalink)
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Any reports of founders edition cards getting killed ?

Looks like the fe doesn’t have the issue in halo mcc, so it’ll most likely do fine in this game too...

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