3DArtist

Raldi92

Aigor666
yeah this is exactly the point, but I understand the reasons, its always the same.. - money. In US EVGA is popular and has a vast community of customers, in EU as I see it (though may be mistaken) - they have a group of enthusiasts but nowhere the size in US.. so building another great infrastructure is just not profitable enough... 
 
This of course translates in worse service and our frustration hope it will change one day

I mean yes and no , it's hard to quantify the popularity of this brand over one continent or another. Where i agree with you is that EVGA remains a small-ish manufacturer compared to the likes of ASUS , MSI etc and maybe they don't have a strong mindshare here in EU compared to NA ( again hard to quantify ) .

The paradigm here is that building and maintaining a great infrastructure cost money , so if money is the issue then EU market should certainly have priority over the NA market in a business point of view since no ''heavy'' infrastructure has been built for the EU market therefore EVGA doesn't need to maintain it . I mean realistically they have a small infrastructure for the EU so they have to pay some employees over EU but still far less compared to NA market . For the EU market it is as straight forward as accepting payment and issuing order for delivery to Taiwan wheres for the NA market they have to pay cargo transport , they have to pay warehouse storage etc etc .

This is why i don't undertand why EVGA is neglecting their EU makret sooo much . It is in times like this that you build mindshare , imagine how many new EU customers EVGA could seduce knowing that they are the only brand selling at somewhat reasonable prices ( competition is chargin well over 2000€ for a custom 3080Ti ) . Honestly they are missing a huge business opportunity here !

That's a typical treatment of European customers by EVGA. Looks like absolutely nothing have changed within EVGA HQ in all past years, it even got worse especially now. I don't understand why they even bother selling anything on our European market. Luckly this is the only downside of living in Europe compared to NA.

If there would've been more alternative nvidia partners that would sell directly to customers close to MSRP, no one would even consider EVGA, knowing how they don't give a d*mn about allocating fair amount of parts to Europe. As long as I remember, EVGA HQ has always treated Europeans as some third world country.

It's sad to say it like that, but that's a reality and countless forum posts reflect it. Reading them makes me very sad. And I've been a loyal customer for years.

However, I hope that very soon whole crypto crashes to oblivion and demand will be met. Soon as prices drop, and I can get a 3080Ti for a reasonable price, I won't even wait for EVGA to wake up. I will gladly pay my money to any other company that cares about me as customer and wants to earn my money.

In the end it all comes down to EVGA being very weak in their buisness strategy at EU market, you have to be litarly blind and not see all the money that Europeans are ready to throw at you. All you have to do is pass the order to Taiwan and cash-in...

True. In normal circumstances they don't deserve anything but ignoring. Very sad we don't have any choice now except EVGA

I agree. Completely true.
 
There are millions of people who want a GPU just now (worldwide).  None of them will be able to "choose" a card from a selection. 

Except those lucky enough, like us to be in an EVGA elite queue.  We're part of a tiny handful of people worldwide who: a) Actually has the opportunity to CHOOSE a GPU from a selection of different cards based on feature-level and cooler,
and
b) MSRP. 

If you ask me me we are all extremely lucky to be EVGA elites in a queue.  We are guaranteed to get more satisfaction from the Nvidia 30 series than anyone else on the planet.

eRRobla
It's funny, because EVGA is the only company out there that is at least trying to deliver GPUs directly to customers at reasonable prices in this hard times. And they're getting so much **** for everything. Seriously guys, we're all frustrated with this situatuion, but look at the whole picture. There is a reason that they are the only company doing that. It's so much easier to sell whole palletes of cards to brokers and miners than doing retail sales. Actually, they are the only ones out there caring a little bit about good relationship with customers.

Its only marketing, nothing else. Building a positive image of the company. If they wany to help playera they can sell all cards directly from website, but they dont do it. How much queue for 3080 go forward from premiere?? You think its all what they can do in almost 10 mounths?? One man half time working can produce more cards in 10mounths do i thing this what is selling in queue is only very small piece of all cards. Its just a marketing and if you have lucky you can get a card.

On the EVGA's European 3080TI Queue List   Under discussion it says:  "Looking at the original spreadsheet for 3080 FTW Ultra EU, it took 65 days for first guy on the list to have his card shipped. Alec"  Anyone has the source for the original spreadsheet? 

Source?

devpieron
It's not true. 3080Ti MSRP is 980 eur + 205 eur 21% VAT = 1185 Eur. However we'll be getting FTW3 at 1500 (1250 base price + VAT) eur minimum. That's the price of some 3090 models which we had in amazon in Nov-Dec 2020.. Still 2x better compared to others now, but that's not MSRP.

No retailers sell MSRP now, retailers in my country and also in Germany are selling for scalping prices now, so there are cards in stock here and there. If you need 3080ti you can get one on German Mindfactory, for 2300Eur.
Or retailers are putting these cards in their prebuilt systems with insane price tags.
Thing is people want these cards for non scalping price, only Evga direct sell can provide you with this option now, because actually it is only one company that is trying to do something about it.

devpieron

TrekCZ

devpieron
It's not true. 3080Ti MSRP is 980 eur + 205 eur 21% VAT = 1185 Eur. However we'll be getting FTW3 at 1500 (1250 base price + VAT) eur minimum. That's the price of some 3090 models which we had in amazon in Nov-Dec 2020.. Still 2x better compared to others now, but that's not MSRP.

No retailers sell MSRP now, retailers in my country and also in Germany are selling for scalping prices now, so there are cards in stock here and there. If you need 3080ti you can get one on German Mindfactory, for 2300Eur.
Or retailers are putting these cards in their prebuilt systems with insane price tags.
Thing is people want these cards for non scalping price, only Evga direct sell can provide you with this option now, because actually it is only one company that is trying to do something about it.

Average American pays 800-1400 USD + 7% tax for FTW3 which equals to 700-1200 EUR and being served first. Average EU guy pays 1500 eur after months of waiting if there are leftovers from NA. If it's customer centric business it's definitely not EU-customer centric. We stick with EVGA because we don't have anything better now and others are even worse.

At this stage I'm just searching for a good deal on a used rtx 2080ti and will skip this whole generation. Its just not worth waiting every day and looking at scalper prices for 3000 series. Not that 2080ti are any better but at least you can get one for a reasonable price.

devpieron

WhiteWolf92

devpieron

TrekCZ

devpieron
It's not true. 3080Ti MSRP is 980 eur + 205 eur 21% VAT = 1185 Eur. However we'll be getting FTW3 at 1500 (1250 base price + VAT) eur minimum. That's the price of some 3090 models which we had in amazon in Nov-Dec 2020.. Still 2x better compared to others now, but that's not MSRP.

No retailers sell MSRP now, retailers in my country and also in Germany are selling for scalping prices now, so there are cards in stock here and there. If you need 3080ti you can get one on German Mindfactory, for 2300Eur.
Or retailers are putting these cards in their prebuilt systems with insane price tags.
Thing is people want these cards for non scalping price, only Evga direct sell can provide you with this option now, because actually it is only one company that is trying to do something about it.

Average American pays 800-1400 USD + 7% tax for FTW3 which equals to 700-1200 EUR and being served first. Average EU guy pays 1500 eur after months of waiting if there are leftovers from NA. If it's customer centric business it's definitely not EU-customer centric. We stick with EVGA because we don't have anything better now and others are even worse.

At this stage I'm just searching for a good deal on a used rtx 2080ti and will skip this whole generation. Its just not worth waiting every day and looking at scalper prices for 3000 series. Not that 2080ti are any better but at least you can get one for a reasonable price.

I'd avoid used cards for now because they could come from the mining

possibly, but im willing to risk it given the situation... Plus, I don't think 2080ti were the most sought after gpu for mining (might be wrong)

TrekCZ

WhiteWolf92
Not that 2080ti are any better but at least you can get one for a reasonable price.

The biggest retailer in my country sells used 2080ti (msi trio) for 3359Eur so really only hope here is Evga now.

In Poland you can get used 2080ti's for 1000 euro now... still more than they are really worth but if I could get one for 800-900 I'd really consider it.

random_matt
How long did the first 3080 take to ship out? Being number 10 on the list gives me no hope to be honest.

On the EVGA's European 3080TI Queue List   Under discussion it says:  "Looking at the original spreadsheet for 3080 FTW Ultra EU, it took 65 days for first guy on the list to have his card shipped. Alec"  

random_matt

daviddave1

random_matt
How long did the first 3080 take to ship out? Being number 10 on the list gives me no hope to be honest.

On the EVGA's European 3080TI Queue List   Under discussion it says:  "Looking at the original spreadsheet for 3080 FTW Ultra EU, it took 65 days for first guy on the list to have his card shipped. Alec"  

Oh boy. Guess I'll give it a month or two, in all likelihood I will probably just get a 6900 XT.

I have a Alienware 360hz Gsync only monitor. If it supported Freesync I would have done the same. 

But since I'm in the middle of the list there is little chance that I will get a 3080 ti ...

sorinja
Is it really like that. I also signed up. But I see that nobody has received a confirmation from Europe. If the lists on America are processed first that would not be ok, I think I have to honestly admit.

The service has always been more one sided, but got severely worse upon the shutting down of the warehouse in Germany. I honestly think the top five will be fulfilled by Xmas, the rest not so much.

random_matt

sorinja
Is it really like that. I also signed up. But I see that nobody has received a confirmation from Europe. If the lists on America are processed first that would not be ok, I think I have to honestly admit.

The service has always been more one sided, but got severely worse upon the shutting down of the warehouse in Germany. I honestly think the top five will be fulfilled by Xmas, the rest not so much.

I think the biggest thing that most of the people complaining about - they gave us some hope with that queue. But on the other side - queue is not moving, or\if queue is moving that slow, that noone can see that. "Don't give me hope"©

But that would give a bad picture for EVGA if the NA users were served and the Europeans would come in last here. From my point of view, I don't think that's fair, especially since it was first come first. But this is more likely to mean that the EU comes first and then the rest where we still have orders. If I see it realistically, it will probably not be anything this year with the card for the people who have ordered in Europe. A tragedy, unfortunately.