andydsmI hope that someone from EVGA will read what I am about to say and I also hope this will resonate with others, sharing a similar thought as me.If what Raldi92 is saying that the XC3 is just a "placeholder" for a close to MSRP offering, but is realistically not being restocked, after the initial drop is probably one the SCUMMIEST things a company can do in a horrible climate like it is now. I am aware that a sizeable portion of EVGA's customers wouldn't even think twice about paying 200+ euros over MSRP for more RGB bling for let's face facts here, identically performing cards (except the KP and hybrid SKUs) to the XC3.I don't know if other AIBs are doing the same thing, since I haven't seen any having an online retail store, here in the EU but this move is extremely low-down and just leaves a very bad taste in potential buyers, which would love to return to your brand again in the future, when this crap is finally behind us all and availability returns to normal. Also, no I won't sign up for the FTW3, which I am sure will perform in gaming tests and benches close to identically to the XC3 while costing 200 eur more.Need I even mention the tragic and frankly inexplicable (to me at least) complete tragedy of the EU re-stocking allocations? Something needs to change!
null pointer exception I think they are even selling XC3 far below MSRP and FTW close to MSRP for the Ti.
Raldi92Emm NO you are certainly looking at pricing exc vat . When you include VAT you get MSRP for the XC3 ( which is not sold anymore ) and +200 over MSRP for the FTW3 .
red_zaryqueue for ftw3 ultra in US is at 7:27am and ultra hybrid at 7:41am
Raldi92Pesonally i would be far more critical towards EVGA concernig their management of the EU market , or to be more precise the lack of it . We EU customers are treated as second or third tier customers compared to North American customers and this is very disrespectfull from EVGA . We are customers just like any North American customer , so we certainly deserve a better treatment. EVGA has a lot to improve on that front and quickly at that being !
null pointer exceptionI dont think MSRP includes VAT.
Aigor666yeah this is exactly the point, but I understand the reasons, its always the same.. - money. In US EVGA is popular and has a vast community of customers, in EU as I see it (though may be mistaken) - they have a group of enthusiasts but nowhere the size in US.. so building another great infrastructure is just not profitable enough... This of course translates in worse service and our frustration hope it will change one day
fripiWell just discovered this thread and it seems I was the first 12G-P5-3967-KR 6/3/2021 6:19:27 AM PT No hoping for some news this week
MrAmos123fripiWell just discovered this thread and it seems I was the first 12G-P5-3967-KR 6/3/2021 6:19:27 AM PT No hoping for some news this weekCan you screenshot your result?
fripiMrAmos123fripiWell just discovered this thread and it seems I was the first 12G-P5-3967-KR 6/3/2021 6:19:27 AM PT No hoping for some news this weekCan you screenshot your result?yep :
Raldi92Aigor666yeah this is exactly the point, but I understand the reasons, its always the same.. - money. In US EVGA is popular and has a vast community of customers, in EU as I see it (though may be mistaken) - they have a group of enthusiasts but nowhere the size in US.. so building another great infrastructure is just not profitable enough... This of course translates in worse service and our frustration hope it will change one dayI mean yes and no , it's hard to quantify the popularity of this brand over one continent or another. Where i agree with you is that EVGA remains a small-ish manufacturer compared to the likes of ASUS , MSI etc and maybe they don't have a strong mindshare here in EU compared to NA ( again hard to quantify ) . The paradigm here is that building and maintaining a great infrastructure cost money , so if money is the issue then EU market should certainly have priority over the NA market in a business point of view since no ''heavy'' infrastructure has been built for the EU market therefore EVGA doesn't need to maintain it . I mean realistically they have a small infrastructure for the EU so they have to pay some employees over EU but still far less compared to NA market . For the EU market it is as straight forward as accepting payment and issuing order for delivery to Taiwan wheres for the NA market they have to pay cargo transport , they have to pay warehouse storage etc etc . This is why i don't undertand why EVGA is neglecting their EU makret sooo much . It is in times like this that you build mindshare , imagine how many new EU customers EVGA could seduce knowing that they are the only brand selling at somewhat reasonable prices ( competition is chargin well over 2000€ for a custom 3080Ti ) . Honestly they are missing a huge business opportunity here !
Raldi92null pointer exceptionI dont think MSRP includes VAT.It does , for instance if you go at NVIDIA store , the advertised price for 3080Ti is 1199,9€ incl VAT .
lol999@fripiyour times are fake, not possible to get into this before 6:00 AM.
null pointer exceptionNowhere it says incl VAT. Because it is an US based platform it will only include VAT after entering your address. This is confirmed in their FAQ. How are you coming to this conclusion?
3DArtistThat's a typical treatment of European customers by EVGA. Looks like absolutely nothing have changed within EVGA HQ in all past years, it even got worse especially now. I don't understand why they even bother selling anything on our European market. Luckly this is the only downside of living in Europe compared to NA. If there would've been more alternative nvidia partners that would sell directly to customers close to MSRP, no one would even consider EVGA, knowing how they don't give a d*mn about allocating fair amount of parts to Europe. As long as I remember, EVGA HQ has always treated Europeans as some third world country. It's sad to say it like that, but that's a reality and countless forum posts reflect it. Reading them makes me very sad. And I've been a loyal customer for years. However, I hope that very soon whole crypto crashes to oblivion and demand will be met. Soon as prices drop, and I can get a 3080Ti for a reasonable price, I won't even wait for EVGA to wake up. I will gladly pay my money to any other company that cares about me as customer and wants to earn my money.In the end it all comes down to EVGA being very weak in their buisness strategy at EU market, you have to be litarly blind and not see all the money that Europeans are ready to throw at you. All you have to do is pass the order to Taiwan and cash-in...