so sad man, first they were the miners, now we fight the scalpers

andydsm
I hope that someone from EVGA will read what I am about to say and I also hope this will resonate with others, sharing a similar thought as me.
If what Raldi92 is saying that the XC3 is just a "placeholder" for a close to MSRP offering, but is realistically not being restocked, after the initial drop is probably one the SCUMMIEST things a company can do in a horrible climate like it is now. 
I am aware that a sizeable portion of EVGA's customers wouldn't even think twice about paying 200+ euros over MSRP for more RGB bling for let's face facts here, identically performing cards (except the KP and hybrid SKUs) to the XC3.
I don't know if other AIBs are doing the same thing, since I haven't seen any having an online retail store, here in the EU but this move is extremely low-down and just leaves a very bad taste in potential buyers, which would love to return to your brand again in the future, when this crap is finally behind us all and availability returns to normal. Also, no I won't sign up for the FTW3, which I am sure will perform in gaming tests and benches close to identically to the XC3 while costing 200 eur more.
Need I even mention the tragic and frankly inexplicable (to me at least) complete tragedy of the EU re-stocking allocations? 
Something needs to change!

Just to make things clear on those two points highlighted :
 
1) Yes as i said what EVGA is doing with the XC3 is disapointing to say the least but i wouldn't go as far as call it a scam , as much as i would like the XC3 to be more than a simple bait and switch  at least to EVGA credit they are trying to offer '' semi-reasonable'' prices on the rest of their SKUs . To put things into perspective ASUS TUF 3080Ti goes for almost 2200 eur in my region ( France ) , i don't even want to know what they are charging for a Strix ( FTW3 equivalent ) . Point being sure it is not what we like to see as customers but at the end of the day they are a business and as such they have to take the opportunity to make more money when it shows . At least EVGA is abusing far less this opportunity than it's competition , again not ideal but still better than any other brand out there .
 
2) There is much more than just RGB between the XC3 and the FTW3 for instance higher power limit ( higher boost clock ) , better power delivery , better cooling . At the end of the day even when you take into account OCing for sure it won't make a huge difference in gaming but still some peoples value other things such as accoustic performance ( i for a fact like my GPU to be silent ) etc so yeah there is some value added by the FTW3 . How much value ? Certainly not 200eur i agree with you , back when the market was sane , a top of line SKU like the FTW3 would cost maybe 70eur over MSRP but yeah nowadays it's 200eur ... those are the days we live in .
 
Pesonally i would be far more critical towards EVGA concernig their management of the EU market , or to be more precise the lack of it . We EU customers are treated as second or third tier customers compared to North American customers  and this is very disrespectfull from EVGA . We are customers just like any North American customer , so we certainly deserve a better treatment. EVGA has a lot to improve on that front and quickly at that being !
 
 

null pointer exception
 I think they are even selling XC3 far below MSRP and FTW close to MSRP for the Ti.

Emm NO you are certainly looking at pricing exc vat . When you include VAT you get MSRP for the XC3 ( which is not sold anymore ) and  +200 over MSRP for the FTW3 .

queue for ftw3 ultra in US is at 7:27am and ultra hybrid at 7:41am
 
 

red_zary
queue for ftw3 ultra in US is at 7:27am and ultra hybrid at 7:41am
 

So?

null pointer exception
I dont think MSRP includes VAT.

It does , for instance if you go at NVIDIA store , the advertised price for 3080Ti is 1199,9€ incl VAT .

Well just discovered this thread and it seems I was the first 
12G-P5-3967-KR 6/3/2021 6:19:27 AM PT No
 
hoping for some news this week

Wrong post, mods delete pls

fripi

MrAmos123

fripi
Well just discovered this thread and it seems I was the first 
12G-P5-3967-KR 6/3/2021 6:19:27 AM PT No
 
hoping for some news this week

Can you screenshot your result?

yep :

Fair enough. You got incredibly lucky. Well done.

Raldi92

Aigor666
yeah this is exactly the point, but I understand the reasons, its always the same.. - money. In US EVGA is popular and has a vast community of customers, in EU as I see it (though may be mistaken) - they have a group of enthusiasts but nowhere the size in US.. so building another great infrastructure is just not profitable enough... 
 
This of course translates in worse service and our frustration hope it will change one day

I mean yes and no , it's hard to quantify the popularity of this brand over one continent or another. Where i agree with you is that EVGA remains a small-ish manufacturer compared to the likes of ASUS , MSI etc and maybe they don't have a strong mindshare here in EU compared to NA ( again hard to quantify ) .

The paradigm here is that building and maintaining a great infrastructure cost money , so if money is the issue then EU market should certainly have priority over the NA market in a business point of view since no ''heavy'' infrastructure has been built for the EU market therefore EVGA doesn't need to maintain it . I mean realistically they have a small infrastructure for the EU so they have to pay some employees over EU but still far less compared to NA market . For the EU market it is as straight forward as accepting payment and issuing order for delivery to Taiwan wheres for the NA market they have to pay cargo transport , they have to pay warehouse storage etc etc .

This is why i don't undertand why EVGA is neglecting their EU makret sooo much . It is in times like this that you build mindshare , imagine how many new EU customers EVGA could seduce knowing that they are the only brand selling at somewhat reasonable prices ( competition is chargin well over 2000€ for a custom 3080Ti ) . Honestly they are missing a huge business opportunity here !

That's a typical treatment of European customers by EVGA. Looks like absolutely nothing have changed within EVGA HQ in all past years, it even got worse especially now. I don't understand why they even bother selling anything on our European market. Luckly this is the only downside of living in Europe compared to NA.

If there would've been more alternative nvidia partners that would sell directly to customers close to MSRP, no one would even consider EVGA, knowing how they don't give a d*mn about allocating fair amount of parts to Europe. As long as I remember, EVGA HQ has always treated Europeans as some third world country.

It's sad to say it like that, but that's a reality and countless forum posts reflect it. Reading them makes me very sad. And I've been a loyal customer for years.

However, I hope that very soon whole crypto crashes to oblivion and demand will be met. Soon as prices drop, and I can get a 3080Ti for a reasonable price, I won't even wait for EVGA to wake up. I will gladly pay my money to any other company that cares about me as customer and wants to earn my money.

In the end it all comes down to EVGA being very weak in their buisness strategy at EU market, you have to be litarly blind and not see all the money that Europeans are ready to throw at you. All you have to do is pass the order to Taiwan and cash-in...

Added mine! Thanks for sharing this.
 
Take care everyone and may you receive your email soon!

@fripi
your times are fake, not possible to get into this before 6:00 AM.

Sorry my bad I've thought the last notify sing was also for a 3080ti

3DArtist

That's a typical treatment of European customers by EVGA. Looks like absolutely nothing have changed within EVGA HQ in all past years, it even got worse especially now. I don't understand why they even bother selling anything on our European market. Luckly this is the only downside of living in Europe compared to NA.
If there would've been more alternative nvidia partners that would sell directly to customers close to MSRP, no one would even consider EVGA, knowing how they don't give a d*mn about allocating fair amount of parts to Europe. As long as I remember, EVGA HQ has always treated Europeans as some third world country.
It's sad to say it like that, but that's a reality and countless forum posts reflect it. Reading them makes me very sad. And I've been a loyal customer for years.
However, I hope that very soon whole crypto crashes to oblivion and demand will be met. Soon as prices drop, and I can get a 3080Ti for a reasonable price, I won't even wait for EVGA to wake up. I will gladly pay my money to any other company that cares about me as customer and wants to earn my money.
In the end it all comes down to EVGA being very weak in their buisness strategy at EU market, you have to be litarly blind and not see all the money that Europeans are ready to throw at you. All you have to do is pass the order to Taiwan and cash-in...

Sadly all of this is true .  I've been a loyal customer aswell with several GPUs , motherboards and PSU registered to my account  but truth is nothing has changed in EVGAs approach in regards to EU market , we have always been second tier customers at best ....
 
I love EVGA but nowadays the only reason i stick with them is because they do offer somewhat resonable prices , nothing more nothing less . Their air cooler is far behind the likes of MSI and ASUS and OCing is somewhat meaningless nowadays so yeah , if any other brand did sold directly to their customers at somewhat reasonable prices i would not hesitate a single second . It's sad to say it but since EVGA is not loyal to us EU customers why should we be loyal towards EVGA ?
 
We all come to the same conclusion , EVGA is missing a huge comercial opportunity by neglecting the EU market the way they do !
 

They'll sell all the cards they want anyway.

Is there a NA version of the queue that looks like this? A complete list not the "most recent".