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babybulllax
I have bought 3 gpus from EVGA a 780 ti and two titan x's as well as a mobo. but ultimately they are all about the well you aren't a gamer because you haven't had to upgrade your system in years. One would think they take the length of time an account has been made into consideration when doing the ques. its been like 6 years since ive upgraded my computer and i think its time.

Preach! My last build was in 2013-2014. It's lasted me 7 years and my 780 still runs alright.

faith730

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faith730

TheAwesomeGem
Crypto mining is even more profitable and with scalper queue bots(that signs up at day 0  with 100 accounts), it will take atleast 3-4 months for the first non crypto-miner customer to get hands on of the 3080 Ti. Crypto miner can easily afford a scalped card so scalpers demand has increased even further. But if you are just a regular person that just needs a new card to game, the situation won't get better until atleast for the next 2 years.

Hopefully, EVGA will have measures in place to detect and ban bot accounts

Me either, there is definitely a way to tell between bot and gamers by an actual moderator, but when I think of it on EVGA side, do they really have to spent so much human resource just to filter out the bot? I hope they can develop an AI to filtering bot

This... they should have rethought the process and either time gated it to existing members with a certain amount of time since membership or some other means

I'm sure some of the new accounts are genuine gamers looking to get a card in their hand but let's be honest, a majority won't be.

Baxter Stockman
Some of us had accounts for years. But not a single post in the forums.
 
That grind is now done. Now I wait so I can wait in line for the 3080ti or whatever else is available.

Amperloom
The GeForce RTX 3080 Ti announcement has been postponed by two weeks. The original date of May 18th has been changed to May 31st. We have confirmed that NVIDIA is planning to announce both the RTX 3080 Ti and RTX 3070 Ti on the same day. However, product reviews will be split, with RTX 3080 Ti being introduced on June 2nd and RTX 3070 Ti reviews going live on June 9th.
We do not have product launch (availability) dates yet, but those embargoes are usually lifted on the same day as reviews or a day later (more common now).
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 30 “TI Refresh” Launch Schedule GeForce RTX 3070 TiGeForce RTX 3080 TiAnnouncementMay 31stMay 31stProduct ReviewsJune 9thJune 2ndProduct LaunchTBCTBC
NVIDIA is currently shipping its GA10X-XX2 GPUs designated internally as LHR (Lite Hash Rate). Those should become available to customers in the coming weeks. The plan is to completely refresh the whole lineup with LHR/3080Ti/3070Ti series in the next 2 months.
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti will feature GA102-225 GPU with 10240 CUDA cores enabled. This model will offer 12GB GDDR6X memory, which is indeed just 2GB more than RTX 3080, but thanks to the wider bus of 384-bit the maximum bandwidth will increase by 152GB/s.
The RTX 3070 Ti, might be one of the most interesting cards in the NVIDIA lineup yet. This is the first Ampere gaming card to feature full GPU specs, in this case, the GA104-400. The RTX 3070 Ti will offer 6144 CUDA cores and 8GB GDDR6X memory. While 8GB is indeed less than RTX 3060 with 12GB, the RTX 3070 Ti allegedly gets GDDR6X modules, which would provide a bandwidth increase of 160 GB/s over RTX 3070 non-TI. It seems that the RTX3080Ti / 3070 TI is all about the memory upgrade.
We received this update shortly after our colleagues at  were also able to confirm the June release. While this is the fifth update to AIBs on the launch schedule of both cards, it is actually the first time NVIDIA confirmed the exact dates of both SKUs. So yes, it seems to be final, but at this point, we can’t promise it won’t change again.
 
https:// videocardz.com

faith730

MrMichaelJames
We all know they will do a queue, but they should change it up, they should randomize it. This way it doesn't matter if you crush the site trying to get in early or get in later in the day, everyone has the same chance of getting their number called. Open the queue for a set time frame, say 48 hours. Collect all that are interested, then after that 48 hours shut the queue sign up down and start randomly picking people. No more posts about "where am I in the queue" or wondering when my day/time will come up. Just make it all random. Everyone has the same chance as everyone else to actually get a card. This way also if bots sign up early and crush the site they won't have any better of a chance to get it than someone who is legit.

48 hours is too much time... make it an hour then maybe it might work.... it'll be slammed in the 1st 2 mins with 10k sign-ups anyways

Armathyx

MindOfVacuity
I would definitely like to buy one of these cards, but I'm not a member of the Elite program. Seems like my signup dates for an EVGA account back in 2012 would be a stronger indicator that I'm a gamer than if I purchased a motherboard or watch Twitch. Both of which scalpers and miners can just view as a cost that eats their margin between the MSRP price and the gray market price for cards.
 
Went back to school to get an engineering job that pays well, wanted to build a new PC as a graduation present to myself, but found that the hardware market is in shambles.
 
Crypto mining has been an unmitigated disaster. The absurdity of thinking that ASIC-resistant currencies would somehow democratize crypto mining was absurd and only reveals that the people creating these currencies fall into the classic trope of a highly educated person with a deficit of practical understanding of the world around them -- namely, a facile understanding of economics. All they did was create a new market for GPUs that has different metrics for GPU valuation, which prices out the other market. Crypto values cards simply at the predicted average net value that the cards will create before running them is no longer profitable. Crypto is driving the market, and scalpers are simply capturing the consumer surplus between MSRP and the value of the cards to miners. Meanwhile, nearly everyone who isn't using the cards to generate money is priced out. This is literally Economics 101.
 
Furthermore, their assumption that EVERY owner of a card can simply offset this by mining fails to appreciate that uses will use the GPU for other tasks thus diminishing the amount of mining it will perform in its lifetime. That many users keep their computers in their bedrooms and many of those will not want to run their computers while they sleep. Assumptions about the costs of electricity further alter the net value of the card to users. That is, if the card is expected to generate $4000 of value in its lifetime and costs $2500, what happens when a user resides in an area where electricity is 5 times more expensive than low-energy cost areas where miners establish operations? Coupled with a possible reduction in mining hours to less than 8 hours a day it's unlikely that regular consumers will see s meaningful portion of the value in crypto mining returns that a dedicated mining operation will. It also neglects one of the most fundamental realities of mining being profitable on GPUs: If there is a net profit to be made on one card, then that profit scales linearly with the number of cards purchased. Thus, miners are limited largely only by the amount of hardware they can get their hands on. Thereby incentivizing miners to employ special efforts to gain better access to the opportunities to purchase more cards. Namely, botting and gaming any and all systems to dispense cards.
 
The notion that GPU does anything beneficial for crypto should immediately be dispensed with. All currencies should move to algorithms that favor ASICs. Specifically targeting GPUs is damaging the livelihoods of those who work in the gaming industry and supporting industries. If we had a more technologically savvy regulatory body, they see the damage that Crypto is having and force stewards through legislation of crypto technologies to avoid algorithms that benefit generalized hardware like GPUs, CPUs, APUs, and FPGAs to protect the access of individuals and other businesses to modern computing.

^This the kinda guy who doesn't know what he's talking about but is fluid enough in English to make it seem like he does

Sahira
Yeah both are kinda the same.

SherwinXL7
What's the release going to be like? Anyone got a plan for actually getting a card?