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2017/04/14 12:06:38 (permalink)
I got excited when they went on pre-order and purchased 2 of the SC Blacks. Is it overkill? Im wondering because im seeing just about everyone else had bought 1 1080Ti. I use my PC for gaming at 4K.
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    Re: 2 1080Ti's overkill? 2017/04/14 12:10:38 (permalink)
    If you're gaming in 4K it's absolutely not overkill. Although, it depends on whether the games you play support, and are optimized for, SLI. 
     
    With the impending release of 4K 144HZ monitors (albeit, for the ridiculous price of $2000), you'll even be able to use 1080ti in SLI to its full potential.

     
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    Re: 2 1080Ti's overkill? 2017/04/14 12:25:45 (permalink)
    So jealous lol..awesome bro
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    Re: 2 1080Ti's overkill? 2017/04/14 12:39:15 (permalink)
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    If you're gaming in 4K it's absolutely not overkill. Although, it depends on whether the games you play support, and are optimized for, SLI. 
     
    With the impending release of 4K 144HZ monitors (albeit, for the ridiculous price of $2000), you'll even be able to use 1080ti in SLI to its full potential.




    LOL $2000...
     
    I'll suffer just a little while longer with the 1080 Ti being the single card solution for my 4k 60hz gaming woes.
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    Re: 2 1080Ti's overkill? 2017/04/14 12:52:12 (permalink)
    Some day we'll have high enough resolution that increasing it further wouldn't net any visual gains and our GPUs will be able to keep up a little better.  What happens then??
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    Re: 2 1080Ti's overkill? 2017/04/14 13:32:12 (permalink)
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    Some day we'll have high enough resolution that increasing it further wouldn't net any visual gains and our GPUs will be able to keep up a little better.  What happens then??


    I could see gpu prices skyrocketing due to people not having to upgrade as often.
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    Re: 2 1080Ti's overkill? 2017/04/14 13:42:31 (permalink)
    Its not overkill, but mainly that is me saying that. I mean I will have 2 as soon as my second step-up gets done.
     
     
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    Re: 2 1080Ti's overkill? 2017/04/14 13:58:06 (permalink)
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    Re: 2 1080Ti's overkill? 2017/04/14 13:59:15 (permalink)
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    I got excited when they went on pre-order and purchased 2 of the SC Blacks. Is it overkill? Im wondering because im seeing just about everyone else had bought 1 1080Ti. I use my PC for gaming at 4K.


    Not overkill for 4k gaming.
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    Re: 2 1080Ti's overkill? 2017/04/14 14:00:19 (permalink)
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    Some day we'll have high enough resolution that increasing it further wouldn't net any visual gains and our GPUs will be able to keep up a little better.  What happens then??


    I could see gpu prices skyrocketing due to people not having to upgrade as often.


    True, but if they are useful for 5 years then that would be OK.  It'll be interesting to see what happens after 4K.
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    Re: 2 1080Ti's overkill? 2017/04/14 14:01:31 (permalink)
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    I got excited when they went on pre-order and purchased 2 of the SC Blacks. Is it overkill? Im wondering because im seeing just about everyone else had bought 1 1080Ti. I use my PC for gaming at 4K.


    Not overkill for 4k gaming.




    To each their own... I don't think it's necessary for 4k 60hz.
     
    144hz is another matter... I'll give it some more thought when I don't have to pay $2k for a monitor.
     
    I value resolution over refresh rate which is why I went 4k 60hz instead of 1440p 144hz...  Now if I could get both I'd probably go for it... but not for $2k.
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    Re: 2 1080Ti's overkill? 2017/04/14 14:18:03 (permalink)
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    I value resolution over refresh rate which is why I went 4k 60hz instead of 1440p 144hz...  Now if I could get both I'd probably go for it... but not for $2k.



    For me the sweet resolution is 3440x1440 at 34in. Gaming in Ultrawide 21:9 aspect ratio is amazing!
     
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    Re: 2 1080Ti's overkill? 2017/04/14 14:56:07 (permalink)
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    I got excited when they went on pre-order and purchased 2 of the SC Blacks. Is it overkill? Im wondering because im seeing just about everyone else had bought 1 1080Ti. I use my PC for gaming at 4K.




    you can always check youtube videos.  Plenty of people posting benchmarks.  It's how i tend to choose which GPU or GPUs work best for me.
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    Re: 2 1080Ti's overkill? 2017/04/14 16:19:04 (permalink)
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    If you want to play in 4K at high FPS, having two is a must, in my opinion.




    A must?
     
    I'm confused...
     
    I mean, if I have a 4k 60hz monitor... and my Ti is hitting 60fps in games like Witcher 3, RE7, BF1 and GTA 5 on ultra settings...
     
    Why do I need 2?
     
     
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    Re: 2 1080Ti's overkill? 2017/04/14 16:29:56 (permalink)
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    If you want to play in 4K at high FPS, having two is a must, in my opinion.




    A must?
     
    I'm confused...
     
    I mean, if I have a 4k 60hz monitor... and my Ti is hitting 60fps in games like Witcher 3, RE7, BF1 and GTA 5 on ultra settings...
     
    Why do I need 2?
     
     


    If you are happy with the performance, then you are set. Witcher 3 is my measure when deciding if I have enough GPU power. So looking at that, you are good
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    Re: 2 1080Ti's overkill? 2017/04/14 16:33:26 (permalink)
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    Since there is at least one 144 hrtz 4k monitor out, I also consider that.

    Which one is that?
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    Re: 2 1080Ti's overkill? 2017/04/14 16:42:43 (permalink)
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    I don't consider 60 hrtz high since I have 144 with my 1440p monitor. Since there is at least one 144 hrtz 4k monitor out, I also consider that. Sorry for not being specific. If you are happy with the performance with 60, then you are set. I think you answered your own question now. You are already happy so a second would be overkill in your case. Witcher 3 is my measure when deciding if I have enough GPU power. So looking at that, you are good



    Yeah I think I am good.  If 1 card can put out 60fps to a 60hz monitor... 2 isn't needed... unless you want to pad your 3Dmark score and that would be a poor investment. As said I value resolution over refresh rate which is why I went with 4k.
     
    My monitor is an Asus and I love it...  and once the ASUS ROG Swift PG27UQ 4k 144hz is available I'm going to seriously consider it and SLI... but for now SLI is just not justified. The money isn't the issue... I just don't see the point in doing it now because it would be overkill on a 4k 60hz setup.
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    Re: 2 1080Ti's overkill? 2017/04/14 16:46:21 (permalink)
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    Since there is at least one 144 hrtz 4k monitor out, I also consider that.

    Which one is that?




    I just checked and there isn't one for sale yet.   you got me there.  I watched a youtube video a few months ago where these were being introduced and thought they were out already.  I'll edit my post above to not confuse people.

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    Re: 2 1080Ti's overkill? 2017/04/14 17:09:07 (permalink)
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    My monitor is an Asus and I love it...  and once the ASUS ROG Swift PG27UQ 4k 144hz is available I'm going to seriously consider it and SLI... but for now SLI is just not justified. The money isn't the issue... I just don't see the point in doing it now because it would be overkill on a 4k 60hz setup.




    You and I have the same thought.   I will probably get a 4k monitor once 144 hrz ones come out.  Since I have an Acer Predator, i'll probably go with another one.  Like you with your Asus, I love my Acer.   And of course, if or when I do get one, SLI will be the way I'll go.  Also like you, money isnt the issue but having an overkill setup is not ideal to me either.

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    Re: 2 1080Ti's overkill? 2017/04/14 17:28:10 (permalink)
    Not overkill at all if you would like to run 3 screens in surround hehe.
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    Re: 2 1080Ti's overkill? 2017/04/14 19:59:45 (permalink)
    ROTR was running at a solid 60fps in 4K on my two 1080s, but the single 1080Ti gets about 38-45.  It's gets choppy and isn't even close to the same experience.  I won't even try to play the Ghost recon game with one GPU.  It's a stuttery mess unless I drop it to 1080p or dump a ton of visual effects.  I know not everyone has to play with ultra settings pegged, on a 4K screen, but that was my goal in building my PC and even this beastly 1080 Ti does't do it alone.
     
    I did play a couple of games at 1080p just to see how the GPU did and it literally downclocks to like 700MHz with like 1200Mhz memory.  I was playing stuff with visuals pegged, and my air cooled founders edition was sitting at like 40C.  Hilarious, but eye opening when considering the compute penalty 4K brings with it.
     
    I realize that if the 1080 Ti is an 11 TFLOP card it's gonna take 30-40 TFLOPs to do decent 4K VR, and probably in the 100s before we get 8K VR.  And it's gonna take 8K to get realistic resolution for the whole FOV.  I guess that's gonna take a decade.
     
    FWIW, I was blown away by my 980Ti a year and a half ago, after having not tried a modern GPU since the Radeon 6970, so I'm not complaining.  I just see that in spit of all this power, there is still plenty of room for more.
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    Re: 2 1080Ti's overkill? 2017/04/14 20:09:06 (permalink)
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    ROTR was running at a solid 60fps in 4K on my two 1080s, but the single 1080Ti gets about 38-45.  It's gets choppy and isn't even close to the same experience.  I won't even try to play the Ghost recon game with one GPU.  It's a stuttery mess unless I drop it to 1080p or dump a ton of visual effects.  I know not everyone has to play with ultra settings pegged, on a 4K screen, but that was my goal in building my PC and even this beastly 1080 Ti does't do it alone.
     
    I did play a couple of games at 1080p just to see how the GPU did and it literally downclocks to like 700MHz with like 1200Mhz memory.  I was playing stuff with visuals pegged, and my air cooled founders edition was sitting at like 40C.  Hilarious, but eye opening when considering the compute penalty 4K brings with it.
     
    I realize that if the 1080 Ti is an 11 TFLOP card it's gonna take 30-40 TFLOPs to do decent 4K VR, and probably in the 100s before we get 8K VR.  And it's gonna take 8K to get realistic resolution for the whole FOV.  I guess that's gonna take a decade.
     
    FWIW, I was blown away by my 980Ti a year and a half ago, after having not tried a modern GPU since the Radeon 6970, so I'm not complaining.  I just see that in spit of all this power, there is still plenty of room for more.




    Yes...I consider the 1080 Ti the first 'entry level' 4K GPU. Like you, I want to be able to use the highest graphical settings and maintain a min of 60 FPS. You cannot do that with several AAA titles. On the other hand, going back and playing some older games at 4K with every thing maxed out and it is almost like playing a new game.  I've got a twitchy trigger finger for another one but I'd REALLY like to grab a couple of Hybrid coolers first...if history is being a guide it might be a long time getting one...the ONLY outside source, B&H, is still saying maybe in May...it's silly.

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    Re: 2 1080Ti's overkill? 2017/04/14 20:10:00 (permalink)
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    ROTR was running at a solid 60fps in 4K on my two 1080s, but the single 1080Ti gets about 38-45.  It's gets choppy and isn't even close to the same experience.  I won't even try to play the Ghost recon game with one GPU.  It's a stuttery mess unless I drop it to 1080p or dump a ton of visual effects.  I know not everyone has to play with ultra settings pegged, on a 4K screen, but that was my goal in building my PC and even this beastly 1080 Ti does't do it alone.
     
    I realize that if the 1080 Ti is an 11 TFLOP card it's gonna take 30-40 TFLOPs to do decent 4K VR, and probably in the 100s before we get 8K VR.  And it's gonna take 8K to get realistic resolution for the whole FOV.  I guess that's gonna take a decade.
     



    I've had great results at 60fps 4k Ultra in the previously mentioned Witcher 3, RE7, BF1 and GTA5.  Much like you I built this PC to play in 4k Ultra.
     
    I'm gonna have to check out ROTR and Ghost Recon to see what kind of results I get...  no idea what ROTR is but Ghost Recon had mixed reviews which is why I have avoided it.
     
    As for VR...  yeah, 4k VR is a ways off but the current state of VR is pretty good.  I've had no issues running anything I've tried to run... everything from games to virtual lap dances in 2160p has looked really good. 
     
    LOL
     
     
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    Re: 2 1080Ti's overkill? 2017/04/14 20:17:38 (permalink)
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    Yes...I consider the 1080 Ti the first 'entry level' 4K GPU. Like you, I want to be able to use the highest graphical settings and maintain a min of 60 FPS. You cannot do that with several AAA titles.



    Do you lose sleep if you run at 55fps instead of 60?
     
    The Ti is the first 4k "capable of a steady 60 fps" GPU...  not sure if being first makes it entry level but doesn't really matter to me either way.  It's still the best option right now... until Volta is released and everyone jumps on that bandwagon.
     
     
     
     
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    Re: 2 1080Ti's overkill? 2017/04/14 20:21:37 (permalink)
    Witcher 3 has been my goto game for a while to test GPU ability but when I got my 1080 TI, I got a free game so I chose ghost recon. Great game but demanding. I get over 70 FPS minimum with all my games in 1440p except ghost recon. It's in the low to high 50s. This is how they get you. But one game below 60 FPS won't get me to get a second 1080 TI. For you 4K users, it's a different story. It's never-ending 😐

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    Re: 2 1080Ti's overkill? 2017/04/14 20:39:27 (permalink)
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    I value resolution over refresh rate which is why I went 4k 60hz instead of 1440p 144hz...  Now if I could get both I'd probably go for it... but not for $2k.



    For me the sweet resolution is 3440x1440 at 34in. Gaming in Ultra-wide 21:9 aspect ratio is amazing!
     


    Agreed, I have the Asus 34" Ultra-wide and it is stunning but one 1080 Ti pushes Doom in ultra settings at 144fps under Vulcan at 3440x1440, Ghost recon is 100+ fps and the game I play most, World Of Warships is 76fps no matter what settings are used... I'm told its a CPU intensive game but it looks great!
     
    I have tried 4k using DSR but the crosshairs and mouse cursor don't scale well so I gave up in it.. Don't like the giant mouse pointer... lol. A Ultra-wide 4k monitor might be intriguing


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    Re: 2 1080Ti's overkill? 2017/04/14 20:48:25 (permalink)
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    Yes...I consider the 1080 Ti the first 'entry level' 4K GPU. Like you, I want to be able to use the highest graphical settings and maintain a min of 60 FPS. You cannot do that with several AAA titles.



    Do you lose sleep if you run at 55fps instead of 60?
     
    The Ti is the first 4k "capable of a steady 60 fps" GPU...  not sure if being first makes it entry level but doesn't really matter to me either way.  It's still the best option right now... until Volta is released and everyone jumps on that bandwagon.
     
     
     
     





    Lose sleep? No, but my preferred min is 60 FPS, below that is choppy. But sure I don't think anyone  is arguing it's not the best option under  $1200 I've played BF1 and you cannot max it out (disregarding resolution scaling) and keep it over 50 FPS on certain spots. Reducing a couple settings that are not really visible to the eye, and you can. Fallout 4 still drops into the 50's.  But again, reducing shadow distance, resolves that. So, for the most part with a few compromises you can run at 4K.  At this point it is more or less personal preference and, 'compromising'...well I've always been somewhat a of graphics whoooooooer.

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    Re: 2 1080Ti's overkill? 2017/04/14 20:56:56 (permalink)
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    Lose sleep? No, but my preferred min is 60 FPS, below that is choppy. But sure I don't think anyone  is arguing it's not the best option under  $1200 I've played BF1 and you cannot max it out (disregarding resolution scaling) and keep it over 50 FPS on certain spots. Reducing a couple settings that are not really visible to the eye, and you can. Fallout 4 still drops into the 50's.  But again, reducing shadow distance, resolves that. So, for the most part with a few compromises you can run at 4K.  At this point it is more or less personal preference and, 'compromising'...well I've always been somewhat a of graphics whoooooooer.




    Makes sense... I'm still new to modern PC gaming and what you aren't happy with I'm probably not even noticing. 
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    Re: 2 1080Ti's overkill? 2017/04/14 20:58:03 (permalink)
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    Witcher 3 has been my goto game for a while to test GPU ability but when I got my 1080 TI, I got a free game so I chose ghost recon. Great game but demanding. I get over 70 FPS minimum with all my games in 1440p except ghost recon. It's in the low to high 50s. This is how they get you. But one game below 60 FPS won't get me to get a second 1080 TI. For you 4K users, it's a different story. It's never-ending 😐

    Just for giggles, I just ran Crysis at 4K all settings maxed except no AA..
     
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    !TimeDemo Run 0 Finished.
        Play Time: 26.69s, Average FPS: 74.95
        Min FPS: 54.92 at frame 1972, Max FPS: 94.26 at frame 1751
        Average Tri/Sec: 13960587, Tri/Frame: 186269
        Recorded/Played Tris ratio: 4.92
    !TimeDemo Run 1 Finished.
        Play Time: 24.49s, Average FPS: 81.65
        Min FPS: 54.92 at frame 1972, Max FPS: 101.16 at frame 1002
        Average Tri/Sec: 16057609, Tri/Frame: 196664
        Recorded/Played Tris ratio: 4.66
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        Play Time: 24.51s, Average FPS: 81.61
        Min FPS: 54.92 at frame 1972, Max FPS: 101.16 at frame 1002
        Average Tri/Sec: 16115541, Tri/Frame: 197468
        Recorded/Played Tris ratio: 4.64
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        Play Time: 24.55s, Average FPS: 81.46
        Min FPS: 54.92 at frame 1972, Max FPS: 102.48 at frame 1015
        Average Tri/Sec: 15989822, Tri/Frame: 196294
        Recorded/Played Tris ratio: 4.67
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    Re: 2 1080Ti's overkill? 2017/04/14 23:45:09 (permalink)
    It would be overkill if you was running 1080p, but not for 4k.


     
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