HeavyHemi

Systom
Pointless, 4k 120hz monitors don't exist yet.
Then again, SLI is pretty pointless as well, horrible support, if ever, and if it does support it, crappy scaling.
Been down the SLI road before, not worth it in my opinion.

Sure they do...
 
http://www.144hzmonitors.com/monitors/dell-up3017q-30-inch-4k-120hz-oled-monitor/
 

Any other ones?  First thing in that link, unfortunately, is the following:
"Update: The Dell UP3017Q OLED monitor has been canceled due to image quality problems that could not be resolved. This product will never be released, sadly."
 
SLI pretty much comes down to knowing your wants, needs, and expectations while understanding it has its limits.  While I don't intend to go SLI myself (last time I did so was with a pair of 8800 GTS 512 cards), I always suggest, when monitor shopping, grabbing a screen one will be happy with for years to come.  One of my three 24" screens is a BenQ FP241W which has served me well for over 10 years now.  I'm looking forward to a solid 4K HDR 120Hz screen to do the same for me within a year.

The_Ninjak

HeavyHemi

Systom
Pointless, 4k 120hz monitors don't exist yet.
Then again, SLI is pretty pointless as well, horrible support, if ever, and if it does support it, crappy scaling.
Been down the SLI road before, not worth it in my opinion.

Sure they do...
 
http://www.144hzmonitors.com/monitors/dell-up3017q-30-inch-4k-120hz-oled-monitor/
 

Any other ones?  First thing in that link, unfortunately, is the following:
"Update: The Dell UP3017Q OLED monitor has been canceled due to image quality problems that could not be resolved. This product will never be released, sadly."
 
SLI pretty much comes down to knowing your wants, needs, and expectations while understanding it has its limits.  While I don't intend to go SLI myself (last time I did so was with a pair of 8800 GTS 512 cards), I always suggest, when monitor shopping, grabbing a screen one will be happy with for years to come.  One of my three 24" screens is a BenQ FP241W which has served me well for over 10 years now.  I'm looking forward to a solid 4K HDR 120Hz screen to do the same for me within a year.

yeah https://www.asus.com/Monitors/ROG-SWIFT-PG27UQ/ seems to be a very nice 4k 144 monitor, and honestly, i havent had many issues with sli  - oddly until tonight ive only had to disable it for the division early on, and its worked and scaled pretty well in 90% of the games ive played id say, of course just a few hours ago on booting up killing floor 2 for the first time in ages i find out that they broke sli and it also needed to be disabled for it to run properly now :*(

There's no such thing as overkill in PC gaming.  Some folks gaming at 1920x1080 like to hit really high framerates and may have a 144-240Hz display, which dual 1080 Ti's would be able to provide.  It's no secret though that dual GPU setups are better for higher resolutions, as your CPU will get hammered at 1920x1080.

I play on a big TV because since I got married I'm a couch gamer :D
 
60" 4K TV, runs at 60 Hz.  The stock GTX 1080 TI FE card is running most my games very well in 4k even though I have to tweak settings in a few games which is fine by me.  Once I can get my hands on the hybrid cooler, I figure I'll be good for a couple years :D
 
I'm not in the class as most of you hardcore guys, just need the cooler to reduce that crazy heat and noise and get it back to where my 970/1070 were heat/noise wise.
 
Wife would absolutely MURDER me if I tried to go buy some 4k monitors and a 2nd card for SLI.  Money is there but I would not be able to justify it lol.  Fine by me though.  Getting her a M$ SP4 to play on and keep her busy while I game was a better long term investment :D

TRClark911

thiefzer0
I play on a big TV because since I got married I'm a couch gamer :D
 
60" 4K TV, runs at 60 Hz.  The stock GTX 1080 TI FE card is running most my games very well in 4k even though I have to tweak settings in a few games which is fine by me.  Once I can get my hands on the hybrid cooler, I figure I'll be good for a couple years :D
 
I'm not in the class as most of you hardcore guys, just need the cooler to reduce that crazy heat and noise and get it back to where my 970/1070 were heat/noise wise.
 
Wife would absolutely MURDER me if I tried to go buy some 4k monitors and a 2nd card for SLI.  Money is there but I would not be able to justify it lol.  Fine by me though.  Getting her a M$ SP4 to play on and keep her busy while I game was a better long term investment :D

I paid $339 for my 24" 4k 60hz monitor...  and games very well at 60 fps on ultra.  You don't need SLI... unless you have some garbage CPU... LOL

Higher resolutions are better for a weaker CPU as the 'bottleneck' then becomes the GPU's.  I still don't get the 'need' argument. Writ large, gaming isn't a 'need' at all.

TRClark911

HeavyHemi
Higher resolutions are better for a weaker CPU as the 'bottleneck' then becomes the GPU's.  I still don't get the 'need' argument. Writ large, gaming isn't a 'need' at all.

I've already been over my opinion on the whole thing upthread... and that is when I can get 60 fps on a 60hz 4k monitor with a single Ti there isn't anything SLI will do for me other than pad my 3Dmark score.
 
Once the 4k 120hz comes out I'll reconsider SLI.   Right now I don't consider it a good investment and it most certainly isn't a need.
 
As for the CPU comment... my point was my 7700k will probably get closer to 4k 60 fps than an i5 with the same GPU.

 
Investment?  It certainly isn't an investment at all unless you need it for earning income. Otherwise it is just pure need for a hobby.  Personally, I'd like to be able to max out all the settings at games and still hit a min of 60 FPS. You and I cannot do that. You're okay with that, others needs are not.  You've tweaked one of my pet peeves, our preferences or needs do not define them for others. My peeve about this is your implication that those going SLI are wasting their money and are foolish. I don't see it that way.
 
Edit... I'm a bit testy....sutures on my face are itching like crazy..... Folks, use sunscreen...ha ha.

HeavyHemi
 
Investment?  It certainly isn't an investment at all unless you need it for earning income. Otherwise it is just pure need for a hobby.  Personally, I'd like to be able to max out all the settings at games and still hit a min of 60 FPS. You and I cannot do that. You're okay with that, others needs are not.  You've tweaked one of my pet peeves, our preferences or needs do not define them for others. My peeve about this is your implication that those going SLI are wasting their money and are foolish. I don't see it that way.
 
Edit... I'm a bit testy....sutures on my face are itching like crazy..... Folks, use sunscreen...ha ha.

Yeah you're a bit testy.  Remove "I don't think it's a good investment' and insert "I think SLI is a waste of money."
 
Not really interested in getting into a (language removed) contest with you because I have no patience for annoying people... it's a pet peeve.
 
Lets get one thing straight though.. I'm not trying to convince anyone not to get SLI... by all means, go get 2 Ti cards.. .hell, get 4 of them.
 
I
DO
NOT
CARE.
 
PS... I do 60 fps on ultra just fine in the games I play.  True... that isn't "all settings in all games" but I don't own every game on the market.  The games I do own (Witcher 3, BF1, RE7, GTA 5) I do hit 60 fps and stay there.
 
Have a nice day.
 
 
 
 

HeavyHemi
Okay...I don't your contradictions...but that is what makes the world go around.

No offense taken.  It's Monday... and I'm about to clock out. 

I really don't think it's overkill when you consider the PS4 Pro and Project Scorpio will bring 4K capable consoles to the masses. While they say that those consoles will just make PS4 and Xbox One games look better I feel that some developers will want to harness the power provided. I know console and PC gaming are different but it seems like a lot of games are ports and with developers given more power under the hood I think they will look for modes that will increase graphics or cause the game to run at 4K. PC gamers will be able to enjoy both the better graphics and increased resolution.

TRClark911
I'll just put it to you like this... I played all 4 of my games for at least 45 mins each last night in 4k ultra with vsync locked at 60 and it went like this:
 
RE7 = 60fps... never dropped below 60
GTA5 = 60 fps... only dropped below 60 on the initial load screens
BF1 = 60 fps... only dropped below 60 on those 30 fps cut scenes
Witcher 3 = average 56 fps
 
Amazing that Witcher 3 is as demanding as it is but man is that game a bunch of eye candy.... there were spots where it was locked at 60 and spots it dropped to 52 while I was watching the sunset.  Just gorgeous.
 
At any rate, I don't consider dropping $700 right now for 4 fps to be worth it.   I'll probably change my mind once I have a 4k 144hz screen but by then we'll have Volta which may very well be the "true 4k 60hz single card solution" that some people are claiming the 1080 Ti isn't.
 
It's pretty close though... at least in my experiences.
 
 
 
 
 

 
Why do you continually feel the need to justify the use of your single 1080Ti. I swear, you've responded to every single person who said anything positive about SLI with "WELL I THINK ITS A WASTE OF MONEY AND I GET CONSTANT 4K/60FPS SUCH AND SUCH" Why cant you just let people run 2 cards in SLI without bashing them for wasting theyre money?? Its like you cant stand the fact that other ppl got 2 GPU's when you got 1 so you feel the need to constantly justify your reasoning despite the fact that nobody is questioning it or saying your use of a single card is inadequate.
 
WE GET IT ALREADY, YOUR 1080Ti GETS 60FPS ON WITCHER. PLEASE STOP POSTING THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER AND OVER.
 
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I agree with him personally, it makes zero sense, why do people get offended for stating facts? Very few games would require SLI 1080ti to maintain 60fps at maxed settings at 4k, so if 700.00 is worth moving some settings from high to ultra just to maintain 60fps, well knock yourself out, but don't act like you're getting this golden upgrade when really it's just novelty more than anything.
 
It's not about caring, nor bashing in my eyes, just stating an opinion, and it's not one to be debated nor argued, it's a fact. SLI 1080ti's currently is a WASTE, without a 4k 120hz monitor. A WASTE, A BIG FAT WASTE, OK? Accept that. Don't even get me started on the support for SLI and it's horrible scaling for the most part--Otherwise, just state that you're an enthusiast/benchmarking fiend, that, I can understand, but for gaming? Gimmie a break. I don't know how anyone can even game at 60FPS to begin with.
 
As for future proofing, sure, but by the time these type of monitors come to market, supposedly later this year and into the next, you're better off holding out for SLI on Volta, that way you'll get the most bang for your buck with something that will actually allow you to use all of that power, instead of using SLI Titan XP's for 1080p gaming.

Slim415
Why do you continually feel the need to justify the use of your single 1080Ti. I swear, you've responded to every single person who said anything positive about SLI with "WELL I THINK ITS A WASTE OF MONEY AND I GET CONSTANT 4K/60FPS SUCH AND SUCH" Why cant you just let people run 2 cards in SLI without bashing them for wasting theyre money?? Its like you cant stand the fact that other ppl got 2 GPU's when you got 1 so you feel the need to constantly justify your reasoning despite the fact that nobody is questioning it or saying your use of a single card is inadequate.
 
WE GET IT ALREADY, YOUR 1080Ti GETS 60FPS ON WITCHER. PLEASE STOP POSTING THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER AND OVER.

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What makes you think I'm trying to justify anything to a bunch of people on the internet I don't know?  I was just pointing out the numbers behind my statements.  People are commenting like the Ti can't reach 60 fps in 4k...
 

if money is a concern and your happy with 2k or 4k not quite getting every game at 60fps then no.

 
It most certainly can... at least on my PC.   I'd go back and quote more comments I was referring to but at the end of the day I really don't care... and am definitely not trying to sway anyone in one direction or another.  Knock yourself out with multiple GPUs... ain't my money.
 
Now read this...
 

Systom
I agree with him personally, it makes zero sense, why do people get offended for stating facts? Very few games would require SLI 1080ti to maintain 60fps at maxed settings at 4k, so if 700.00 is worth moving some settings from high to ultra just to maintain 60fps, well knock yourself out, but don't act like you're getting this golden upgrade when really it's just novelty more than anything.
 
It's not about caring, nor bashing in my eyes, just stating an opinion, and it's not one to be debated nor argued, it's a fact. SLI 1080ti's currently is a WASTE, without a 4k 120hz monitor. A WASTE, A BIG FAT WASTE, OK? Accept that. Don't even get me started on the support for SLI and it's horrible scaling for the most part--Otherwise, just state that you're an enthusiast/benchmarking fiend, that, I can understand, but for gaming? Gimmie a break. I don't know how anyone can even game at 60FPS to begin with.
 
As for future proofing, sure, but by the time these type of monitors come to market, supposedly later this year and into the next, you're better off holding out for SLI on Volta, that way you'll get the most bang for your buck with something that will actually allow you to use all of that power, instead of using SLI Titan XP's for 1080p gaming.

Great post.
 
Pretty much covers what I said upthread...
 

TRClark911
once the ASUS ROG Swift PG27UQ 4k 144hz is available I'm going to seriously consider it and SLI... but for now SLI is just not justified.
 
I don't consider dropping $700 right now for 4 fps to be worth it.   I'll probably change my mind once I have a 4k 144hz screen but by then we'll have Volta which may very well be the "true 4k 60hz single card solution" that some people are claiming the 1080 Ti isn't.

 
 
Glad we agree.  
 
... and once again, knock yourselves out with your SLI boys.  Nobody here cares.

Systom
I agree with him personally, it makes zero sense, why do people get offended for stating facts? Very few games would require SLI 1080ti to maintain 60fps at maxed settings at 4k, so if 700.00 is worth moving some settings from high to ultra just to maintain 60fps, well knock yourself out, but don't act like you're getting this golden upgrade when really it's just novelty more than anything.
 
It's not about caring, nor bashing in my eyes, just stating an opinion, and it's not one to be debated nor argued, it's a fact. SLI 1080ti's currently is a WASTE, without a 4k 120hz monitor. A WASTE, A BIG FAT WASTE, OK? Accept that. Don't even get me started on the support for SLI and it's horrible scaling for the most part--Otherwise, just state that you're an enthusiast/benchmarking fiend, that, I can understand, but for gaming? Gimmie a break. I don't know how anyone can even game at 60FPS to begin with.
 
As for future proofing, sure, but by the time these type of monitors come to market, supposedly later this year and into the next, you're better off holding out for SLI on Volta, that way you'll get the most bang for your buck with something that will actually allow you to use all of that power, instead of using SLI Titan XP's for 1080p gaming.

 
 
Wow...a fact.... Some would argue spending significant funds to get an extra 100mhz out of a CPU is a horrible waste. But hey, that's their thing.  What is for certain is a fact is an opinion isn't a fact despite how strongly they *feel* about it.  I personally use a 980Ti for PhysX. Is that a waste? Many would say so. However, at 4K for the titles that make significant use of PhysX, it makes all the difference between being able to run at 4K with all the eye candy and not.  So TOO me, this is not a waste. And lastly, I find it somewhat depressing that on an ENTHUSIAST FORUM, folks are attacking others as "wasting their money" trying to get the most out of their hobby. 

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Just wanted to mention something in here.
 
I have an "older" cpu, 4770 oc'd at 4.25. I also play Witcher 3 and currently have 1 1080ti FE (second one due tomorrow). Before the 1080ti I had 2 780tis, then 2 1080 FTW cards. I found that playing at 1440p I could not have a full 60fps with just one 1080 but it played great with the 2 of them. So just now, with the newest 381.89 driver, I tested again this time with the single 1080ti.
 
Now this was a quick and dirty test but I did it to prove a couple things. First though I will mention that I have every option maxed out including hairworks at 8x AA. And since I do not have a 4k monitor I simulated it using DSR. Here are the results:
 
1440p
Two test runs
Min = 56fps & 57fps
Max = 84fps & 74fps
Avg = 70.3fps & 65.978fps
 
2160p (using DSR)
Min = 34fps & 34fps
Max = 53fps & 47fps
Avg = 39.978fps & 40.511fps
 
So what does this prove? It shows that if you happen to have a little bit older CPU and want to completely max an almost 2 year old title at 4k, you will not be at a consistent 60fps. Sure you can drop a couple things (I mean you do not need to have hairworks AA @8x) and hit 60fps, but that fact is maxed out you can't with a single card. I'll even make those same two tests again in a day or two to see how it is with both 1080ti's in there. Sure there are many games out there right now that you can max, hell damn near all of them you can with the ti, and that is why it is a great card. But you will not be able to full max games coming out soon. But here is the thing, if you want to get the latest and greatest card every generation then I would say don't get SLI, not worth it. But if you generally plan on having them for more than just a single generation then yes I think it can be worth it.
 
But really it just comes down to each individual and what they want out of their rig, we shouldn't bash anyone for having or not having SLI.