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Re: bad(HOT) PCB Layout on GTX 1070 FTW? 2016/10/24 18:04:57 (permalink)
I hope they get a video tutorial on how to put the pads thermal
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Re: bad(HOT) PCB Layout on GTX 1070 FTW? 2016/10/24 18:05:51 (permalink)
Thank the PCB gods I kept my fan profile on I'm half deaf every fall anyways (I get clogged ears and throat not nose)
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Re: bad(HOT) PCB Layout on GTX 1070 FTW? 2016/10/24 18:14:27 (permalink)
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I hope they get a video tutorial on how to put the pads thermal




Honestly, the most difficult part is being fastidious in cleaning all the surfaces with a quality cotton swab and high purity alcohol, 93%+  for the new pad location.

The stock pads will stick where they are needed. Honestly, it's like nVidia greases one side and leaves the other sticky?

Seriously, it's greasy!?

All the screws would be replaced and are designed to bottom out, torq levels not required.

Edit: As for torq levels, I would gently work from center, like a car tire star or as how EK suggested centering the block fist then the cooler and back plate last.
post edited by Salem13 - 2016/10/24 18:18:13
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Re: bad(HOT) PCB Layout on GTX 1070 FTW? 2016/10/24 20:08:46 (permalink)
Hello everyone !
 
I just sent my 1080 FTW back to the resellers as my cards just caught fire 2 days ago.
 
As as i received my money backj from the resellers i planned to buy a new 1080 FTW and i was wondering, will i be ok ? or should i just change brand right now ? because i don't want to see my cards just burn again after 3 month ...
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Re: bad(HOT) PCB Layout on GTX 1070 FTW? 2016/10/24 20:24:14 (permalink)
Well great. After much deliberation I finally buy a new graphics card to replace my 5+ years old HD6950 and this happens.
I would also like to request an official and thorough guide on how to install these thermal pads. Especially since I own 0 tools and do not have any sort of spare thermal paste or anything like that.
 
Hell, maybe the pads can be sent out in conjunction with that FREE* EVGA PowerLink™ that is being offered so I can avoid having to pay for shipping on that thing. ¬_¬
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Re: bad(HOT) PCB Layout on GTX 1070 FTW? 2016/10/24 20:27:52 (permalink)
DrPhD
Well great. After much deliberation I finally buy a new graphics card to replace my 5+ years old HD6950 and this happens.
I would also like to request an official and thorough guide on how to install these thermal pads. Especially since I own 0 tools and do not have any sort of spare thermal paste or anything like that.
 
Hell, maybe the pads can be sent out in conjunction with that FREE* EVGA PowerLink™ that is being offered so I can avoid having to pay for shipping on that thing. ¬_¬


I agree 100% with this, EVGA messed up badly and needs to make it up to us.
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Re: bad(HOT) PCB Layout on GTX 1070 FTW? 2016/10/24 21:13:00 (permalink)
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I just tried to request the thermal pads for my 1070 SC. I get "YOU HAVE NO QUALIFIED REGISTERED PRODUCTS" in response. Just to confirm, the 1070 SC shouldn't have the same heat issues, right? I'm not wanting to melt my card (or house) because of improper cooling when I purchased this card specifically for its cooling.


I was able to submit my request for thermal pads, I have the 1070 SC registered on my account.

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Re: bad(HOT) PCB Layout on GTX 1070 FTW? 2016/10/24 21:53:57 (permalink)
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Hello,
First read the ram issue with Micron, now Overheating Issues, what is next coming..?
I give 600euro to my country for the 1070FTW and such a company Evga is, from the beginning they can't put the pads
for a cost 1-2 euro that costs for Evga and prefer to have a negative picture for the company? It's shame.
If someone can't put the pads or afraid to cause a damage to the card what happen then?
The easy solution for evga to provide us the pads and we take the responsible to damage or not, it's annoying me who paid 600euro.
EVGA if respect their customers, must recall and replace the cards with cards as it should be from the beginning (include the thermald pads).
If they can't, then give us the money back.
 
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Re: bad(HOT) PCB Layout on GTX 1070 FTW? 2016/10/24 22:09:36 (permalink)
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Re: bad(HOT) PCB Layout on GTX 1070 FTW? 2016/10/24 22:11:45 (permalink)
Does this affect the 1070 ftw? I dont have money to buy thermal paste right now because broke q_q
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Re: bad(HOT) PCB Layout on GTX 1070 FTW? 2016/10/24 22:24:02 (permalink)
I have the following graphics card that was registered on 10/03/16 and it states that I have no qualified registered products. Could someone please verify if the following graphics card is eligible for the thermal pad.
Part No. 08G-P4-6276-BR
Part Desc: EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 FTW GAMING ACX 3.0

Thanks in Advance.

Edit: The card was part of a system purchased on 08/26/16
post edited by bigdaddy012678 - 2016/10/24 22:53:09
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Re: bad(HOT) PCB Layout on GTX 1070 FTW? 2016/10/24 22:36:41 (permalink)
Your card should not have these issues because the pads should be installed already.
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Re: bad(HOT) PCB Layout on GTX 1070 FTW? 2016/10/24 22:47:23 (permalink)
ACX of the current situation is GPU is certainly cooling.
However, the PCB(MOSFET,VRAM,VRM) is not cooling.
 
This is because, from the heat sink until the MOSFET is because it is full of gaps.
This problem is a problem that occurs in ACX fan all of the product.
 
It will not rise in temperature to dangerous temperature depending on the product,
but, Since become a high temperature state that is shorten the product life cycle,
such that no doubt I think immediately should fix this problem.
 
WARNING: summer is also when the Room temperature is in the MAX 40 degrees in my environment.
Physically air conditioning can not be installed.
 
But, I can be feel cool in the spot cooler.
However, PC is not cooled.
 
In this way, do not forget that they using in a specific environment.
 
sorry bad English.
post edited by RRX-JP - 2016/10/24 23:02:30
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Re: bad(HOT) PCB Layout on GTX 1070 FTW? 2016/10/24 23:15:26 (permalink)
Really since i bought my first FTW had only frustration...

Worst of all is to see the technical answers given by the support claiming that all products are tested and approved, or ask to open an RMA it will take more than 30 days, here comes another card of the same model with the same defect because of a poorly designed cooler, I bought EVGA because of warranty and after-sales, but I am very frustrated with a board with dual 8-pin connector, 10 theoretical phase power and a maximum TDP of 215W, this is too revolting.

As one can block air flow generated by the fan to the heat sink memories?

I only see a viable solution... send the kit to anyone who has at least the FTW models... http://br.evga.com/Produc...aspx?pn=400-HY-5188-B1
 
Otherwise i will find a way to run OCCT 24hr until it burns and exchange by HOF or MSI, and never come back to EVGA.
 

 

post edited by Leonardohlb - 2016/10/24 23:40:01
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Re: bad(HOT) PCB Layout on GTX 1070 FTW? 2016/10/24 23:43:16 (permalink)
no themal pads for 1060 sc owner's ?? do i need to buy them with my own money and do the job of designers ??
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Re: bad(HOT) PCB Layout on GTX 1070 FTW? 2016/10/25 00:17:01 (permalink)
So where should those pads go? Can anyone please illustrate the required placing? Tnx
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Re: bad(HOT) PCB Layout on GTX 1070 FTW? 2016/10/25 00:38:55 (permalink)
removing the back plate is very easy and straight forward.....
all you need is a screwdriver...
 
 
 
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Re: bad(HOT) PCB Layout on GTX 1070 FTW? 2016/10/25 00:53:11 (permalink)
But how can you see which card the themal pads are applied.
My card is still very cool and i have never had problems with gaming.
Should I applay the pads
post edited by Riesjart - 2016/10/25 00:59:14
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Re: bad(HOT) PCB Layout on GTX 1070 FTW? 2016/10/25 00:59:48 (permalink)
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Does this affect the 1070 ftw? I dont have money to buy thermal paste right now because broke q_q


So you bought a $400 card and don't have $5 for thermal paste? This thread keeps delivering.

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Re: bad(HOT) PCB Layout on GTX 1070 FTW? 2016/10/25 01:37:33 (permalink)
at the post#174
The issue is a new issue, as the VRM, The heatplate, and the cooler itself is nearly identical to all previous ACX coolers.. If it was never an issue before, then there was no reason to suspect it would be now
 
here is the answer I get from the support 
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________
Hello,
Thank you for reaching out to us with your concerns. Unfortunately much of the information you are indicating is not correct. The cards do not need these pads in order to work with full stability and performance. We recognized that we could lower the temperatures with these pads and as a service are offering them for free to our customers. These pads however are entirely not necessary for the cards ran as intended.  Being the manufacturer we are familiar with the hardware any issues that it can have and what it needed to resolve any issues. The Micron issue for example was resolved with a BIOS update and this was a stability issue that effected every manufacturer's 1070 cards, not just EVGA's. If you need this update we can provide it. The overheating issue was reported by a single publication and we could not replicate card failure in the same conditions. That said if you are having issues with your particular card we can always assist troubleshooting to resolve the issues, or if it is suffering from any type of hardware issue then we an offer an RMA to get it replaced as well.
Regards,
EVGA
_________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
 
As they told me that ''much of the information you are indicating is not correct''  then why so "noise" around the thermal issues and a free
offering of thermal pads.
At the end "These pads however are entirely not necessary for the cards ran as intended" I leave the card as it is
and if burnt then evga would replace it..!!???
So is it there a problem/issue or not?
 
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Bar81
So you bought a $400 card and don't have $5 for thermal paste? This thread keeps delivering.

With the same logic
Evga doesn't have 1$ to put from the beginning the thermal pads and then provide as the cards?
post edited by panaikas - 2016/10/25 02:01:57
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Re: bad(HOT) PCB Layout on GTX 1070 FTW? 2016/10/25 02:31:23 (permalink)
I live in Brazil, so I bought a GTX 1070 FTW (which is a very expensive card here, about 2400 reais) because it should have one of the best air cooling performance, since my room temperature is about 30 degree Celsius.
The pads will be sent to Brazil too? We will have to pay for the shipment? Brazil is still in crisis, so the shipment should be disproportionately expensive because the price of the dollar is too high in our currency. Hope EVGA will do something for me.
Sorry for my bad english 
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Re: bad(HOT) PCB Layout on GTX 1070 FTW? 2016/10/25 03:33:47 (permalink)
Just a thought,
 
Maybe as a good will gesture, EVGA could offer registered 1070/1080 owners one of the Hybrid AIO kits at a much reduced price?....
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: bad(HOT) PCB Layout on GTX 1070 FTW? 2016/10/25 04:06:48 (permalink)
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Wow, looking through build pictures, found "blueing"


 




Am i right in assuming that the dark area on that heatsink is located above the VRM's ?
Strange that there's no flat surfaces on the heatsink area for the VRM's to flush up
against like you typically see. Bit worrying if that's the case. Doesn't appear to be a 
very efficient method of extracting heat away from them. And who would know any
better really, we can't monitor VRM temperatures for accurate observations there.
post edited by NucleusX - 2016/10/25 04:12:45

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Re: bad(HOT) PCB Layout on GTX 1070 FTW? 2016/10/25 04:13:39 (permalink)
I have to say, I find it bonkers that people are so ''happy'' about free thermal pads. 
 
Great so you've messed up, and now expect me to take apart an incredibly delicate, expensive GPU and perform risky maintenance on it. Hell no am I doing that. 
 
EVGA are being very careful in their statements so not to trigger a wave of RMA's, but there is 100% a fundamental issue here. Way too much smoke. My 1070SC has this BS+fan problem, so it's likely affecting their entire ACX range. 
 
I have no choice but to RMA, so now i'm going to have that hassle and downtime with no GPU. So thanks alot EVGA. The fact this situation even exists is incredibly poor form. Who's doing QA? Not good enough.
 
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Re: bad(HOT) PCB Layout on GTX 1070 FTW? 2016/10/25 04:50:32 (permalink)
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Re: bad(HOT) PCB Layout on GTX 1070 FTW? 2016/10/25 04:51:35 (permalink)
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panaikas
Hello,
First read the ram issue with Micron, now Overheating Issues, what is next coming..?
I give 600euro to my country for the 1070FTW and such a company Evga is, from the beginning they can't put the pads
for a cost 1-2 euro that costs for Evga and prefer to have a negative picture for the company? It's shame.
If someone can't put the pads or afraid to cause a damage to the card what happen then?
The easy solution for evga to provide us the pads and we take the responsible to damage or not, it's annoying me who paid 600euro.
EVGA if respect their customers, must recall and replace the cards with cards as it should be from the beginning (include the thermald pads).
If they can't, then give us the money back.
 
*Sorry for my english



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Re: bad(HOT) PCB Layout on GTX 1070 FTW? 2016/10/25 04:54:13 (permalink)
Would the GTX 1080 Classified have this problem ? Seeing as it is a bigger card.
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Re: bad(HOT) PCB Layout on GTX 1070 FTW? 2016/10/25 05:10:46 (permalink)
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Would the GTX 1080 Classified have this problem ? Seeing as it is a bigger card.



Yes, all cards based on ACX3.0 cooler are affected
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Re: bad(HOT) PCB Layout on GTX 1070 FTW? 2016/10/25 05:45:08 (permalink)
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As they told me that ''much of the information you are indicating is not correct'' then why so "noise" around the thermal issues and a free
offering of thermal pads.
At the end "These pads however are entirely not necessary for the cards ran as intended" I leave the card as it is
and if burnt then evga would replace it..!!???
So is it there a problem/issue or not?


How many people have had VRMs explode - a handful against 1,000s sold. That means it's not a problem. If something happens in the warranty period it will get fixed. After that you're on your own as always.

If you think Asus or any of the other manufacturers would give a crap ( or even offer an option) in this same situation you're deluding yourselves.

panaikas
With the same logic
Evga doesn't have 1$ to put from the beginning the thermal pads and then provide s the cards?


If his issue was (like most people) - I can't figure out how to / don't want to install additional thermal pads, that's fair. But his issue is he bought a $400 card and now claims he doesn't have another $5. That made me chuckle - one of the more ridiculous things I've heard this week but in all fairness it's not nearly as entertaining as all the meltdowns that have been occurring.
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Re: bad(HOT) PCB Layout on GTX 1070 FTW? 2016/10/25 06:24:51 (permalink)
The point he was trying to make was, if "another $5" seems to be all about nothing, then why skimp on installing these
in the first place at the factory. Besides that, if you payed any attention to this forum, you'd realize that there has been
many many posts in regards to the 1060, 1070, and 1080 with temperature issues. So this isn't an isolated issue lol.
post edited by NucleusX - 2016/10/25 06:27:39

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