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Sir Frigorifero
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's? 2021/04/01 00:24:55 (permalink)
i discovered this morning that my notify for the RTX 3080 XC Gaming (code 3883) has been removed from my list. what really bugs me is that it was from the launch date (17/09) so i was hoping for a notify sooner or later.
 
anyone here had the same problem? should i contact EVGA assistance?
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's? 2021/04/01 00:35:54 (permalink)
Yep, same probleme here. My notify for a 3897 has disappeared. But not the other ones (3881, 3883 and 3885) that I had setup in February
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's? 2021/04/01 04:55:12 (permalink)
My notify for 08G-P5-3663-KR disappeared as well. Hopefully just an April Fool's...
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's? 2021/04/01 08:12:57 (permalink)
invik
Yep, same probleme here. My notify for a 3897 has disappeared. But not the other ones (3881, 3883 and 3885) that I had setup in February




I have a notify for a 3897 as well, it's still there. Maybe you should contact EVGA support. Also make sure you are on eu.evga.com
 
fijam7
My notify for 08G-P5-3663-KR disappeared as well. Hopefully just an April Fool's...




Sir Frigorifero
i discovered this morning that my notify for the RTX 3080 XC Gaming (code 3883) has been removed from my list. what really bugs me is that it was from the launch date (17/09) so i was hoping for a notify sooner or later.
 
anyone here had the same problem? should i contact EVGA assistance?




Make sure you are in the eu.evga.com domain, EU notifies will not show up on the US site (www.evga.com)
If the notifies are still gone contact EVGA support.
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's? 2021/04/01 08:25:23 (permalink)
It's showing up again for me, so maybe just a glitch in the system.
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's? 2021/04/01 08:58:38 (permalink)
My 3897 notify was also removed.

Are you feeling lucky? 

 
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's? 2021/04/01 09:02:27 (permalink)
mine 6 marks for 3080/3090 gone from eu notifies page, damn noice joke for  a fool's day from evga 

 use evga associate code NQL8M9VKNY5EO99
and get %%%$€£ discount at checkout! 
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's? 2021/04/01 09:05:35 (permalink)
It is showing up again for me also.
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's? 2021/04/01 23:54:28 (permalink)
At least there wasn't nothing to worry since queues don't move 

Are you feeling lucky? 

 
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's? 2021/04/02 00:19:45 (permalink)
my notify has appeared again.
 
if this was an april's fool joke it's worse than diablo immortal announcement
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's? 2021/04/02 16:18:53 (permalink)
There was movement for the 3090 in the EU queue! Someone entered his notify 2 days ago in the EU spreadsheet. A 2 day movement, compared to the last we knew...
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's? 2021/04/02 16:38:55 (permalink)
yeah, that is a good news for us, at least the queue is still moving... I thought the queue will never move again.
Compare to NA, the queue in EU is really slow btw...
all we can do is keep waiting
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's? 2021/04/02 17:20:47 (permalink)
I entered couple of days ago and was hoping to get a notice this month, silly me :))))
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's? 2021/04/02 23:03:22 (permalink)
Has anyone any idea what is happening with the 3080 xc3 backplate sku ? I've been in queue from day 0 and it just seems it is not moving (maybe evga just making the higher clocked cards first etc or) ?
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's? 2021/04/03 07:39:57 (permalink)
Dont mean to let you down bro but
I think it is because EU always got less quota from the manufacturer
Look at the NA queue spreadsheet, they got thousands of cards every month, and look at us...
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's? 2021/04/03 13:44:32 (permalink)
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There was movement for the 3090 in the EU queue! Someone entered his notify 2 days ago in the EU spreadsheet. A 2 day movement, compared to the last we knew...




The EU queue continues to serve us with new mysteries every week. Will update my summary
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's? 2021/04/03 14:04:01 (permalink)
Good Evening, here is the daily status for the EU que... yes! I know I am breaking curfew for posting on weekend!

A late report for the 3090 FTW3 Ultra, this line has jumped 2 days. A bit ironic considering it's MSRP can now be found on the 3080's.
 
In short, just another normal day in the 2020/21 Great GPU Debacle (Copyright Enewt).
 
Name                               SKU                  Latest Emailed Date
3090 FTW3 Ultra               3987                 9/28/2020 2:20:00 AM PT
3080 XC3 Ultra                 3885                 9/17/2020 8:35:00 AM PT
3080 FTW3 Ultra               3897                 9/17/2020 7:43:29 AM PT
3070 XC3 Black                 3751                 10/29/2020 6:15:19 AM PT
3070 XC3 Ultra                  3755                 10/29/2020 6:44 AM PT
3070 FTW3 Ultra               3767                  10/29/2020 6:35:24 AM PT
3060 Ti XC Gaming            3663                 12/6/2020 01:51:48 AM PT
3060 TI FTW                     3667                 12/6/2020 12:10:42 AM PT
3060 XC Gaming               3657                  2/25/2021 09:00:41 AM PT
 
EU updates will resume on weekdays when new data arrives. Have a good and safe Easter everyone!
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's? 2021/04/04 13:43:59 (permalink)
Will the prices after 14 April be affected to Europe as well as US? Do you find it fair for someone that ordered first week of launch and still got nothing?
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's? 2021/04/05 02:17:23 (permalink)
iMetaxas
Will the prices after 14 April be affected to Europe as well as US? Do you find it fair for someone that ordered first week of launch and still got nothing?

To my knowledge EU prices also changed, not 100% sure.
And I find it absolutely horrible how literally everything except for 3060Ti and 3090 top end model aren't stuck on launch day for Europe, commonly moving a single SKU per week, whilst NA is getting obvious preferential treatment. I signed up a day late for my 3070... and it's still stuck on 6:13, launch day... Whilst NA is busy going through mid November... Thanks EVGA.
This absolutely shouldn't be the case, as EU is shipped from Taiwan, where the cards are made, whilst NA has to get them shipped across the Pacific before they can be sold...
I'm disappointed to say the least.
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's? 2021/04/05 08:46:05 (permalink)
EU queue does feel to be going slower than the US one that is for sure, but the EU peeps are mostly quiet and non english speaking, so don't chip in so much on the forums, and that means they also don't add themselves to the spreadsheet.
 
The spreadsheet works better the more people use it, hence why the US one seems more active.
 
We had about a month of nothing showing on the 3090 and I don't believe that nothing shipped, but that is was the silent majority.
 
Yes we seem to be lagging, and hopefully soon we'll achieve parity, until then we watch and we wait.
 
If I was seeing vast amounts of other vendors I might moan a bit but in the resellers stores no one unit is moving more than others.
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's? 2021/04/05 14:53:10 (permalink)
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EU queue does feel to be going slower than the US one that is for sure, but the EU peeps are mostly quiet and non english speaking, so don't chip in so much on the forums, and that means they also don't add themselves to the spreadsheet.
 The spreadsheet works better the more people use it, hence why the US one seems more active.
 We had about a month of nothing showing on the 3090 and I don't believe that nothing shipped, but that is was the silent majority.
 Yes we seem to be lagging, and hopefully soon we'll achieve parity, until then we watch and we wait.
 If I was seeing vast amounts of other vendors I might moan a bit but in the resellers stores no one unit is moving more than others.



Agreed - if we were seeing other vendors drop buckets of cards it would make me feel even worse. Still I've been saying it for months, the EU queue simply is not getting a fair shake of the stick for a number of skus. If anyone from EVGA reads these messages (which I kind of suspect they don't due to the sheer number of messages on the forums unless something is "trending") then I would ask that a bit of fairness be applied here. 
 
This isn't someone ****ing-n-moaning about the state of the playing field in the GPU landscape. In fact I already successfully got a 3090 card via the queue (and I'm grateful for it), so I have a lot of love for the EVGA queue - but I would ask that a common "fair approach" be taken to all EVGA customers worldwide. Don't favor the NA folks over the EU.....or indeed the EU over NA for that matter. I realize that sometimes there will be minor deviations where one might be a day or two ahead, but queues being a month ahead.......that just doesn't seem fair no matter what way you slice and dice it.  
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's? 2021/04/06 09:06:01 (permalink)
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Dwarfy
EU queue does feel to be going slower than the US one that is for sure, but the EU peeps are mostly quiet and non english speaking, so don't chip in so much on the forums, and that means they also don't add themselves to the spreadsheet.
 The spreadsheet works better the more people use it, hence why the US one seems more active.
 We had about a month of nothing showing on the 3090 and I don't believe that nothing shipped, but that is was the silent majority.
 Yes we seem to be lagging, and hopefully soon we'll achieve parity, until then we watch and we wait.
 If I was seeing vast amounts of other vendors I might moan a bit but in the resellers stores no one unit is moving more than others.



Agreed - if we were seeing other vendors drop buckets of cards it would make me feel even worse. Still I've been saying it for months, the EU queue simply is not getting a fair shake of the stick for a number of skus. If anyone from EVGA reads these messages (which I kind of suspect they don't due to the sheer number of messages on the forums unless something is "trending") then I would ask that a bit of fairness be applied here. 
 
This isn't someone ****ing-n-moaning about the state of the playing field in the GPU landscape. In fact I already successfully got a 3090 card via the queue (and I'm grateful for it), so I have a lot of love for the EVGA queue - but I would ask that a common "fair approach" be taken to all EVGA customers worldwide. Don't favor the NA folks over the EU.....or indeed the EU over NA for that matter. I realize that sometimes there will be minor deviations where one might be a day or two ahead, but queues being a month ahead.......that just doesn't seem fair no matter what way you slice and dice it.  




For all we know the EU queue could be getting more cards than the US queue, we just don't have access to the notify queue to see how big it really is, Money is money and unless there is much less profit to the rest-of-the-world compared to the US queue I can't see why there wouldn't be an even split.
 
Yes EVGA is first and foremost an American company, but they are a company and making money (even for the love of the products they still need to turn a profit) is the prime goal.
It's not in their interests to say how the queue is split, or even how the cards manufactured are split, it would upset some just knowing that .001% more cards are going to XX retailer.
 
Remember date parity <> queue numbers.
1000 notifiys on the US queue could be December 1st
yet the same 1000 on the EU queue could be October 25th
 
Simple fact is we just don't know, and never will.
 
We just have to have patience, and if something becomes available, pounce.... (still a lot jel you got yours though LOL)
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's? 2021/04/06 09:36:18 (permalink)
Dwarfy
For all we know the EU queue could be getting more cards than the US queue, we just don't have access to the notify queue to see how big it really is, Money is money and unless there is much less profit to the rest-of-the-world compared to the US queue I can't see why there wouldn't be an even split.
 
Yes EVGA is first and foremost an American company, but they are a company and making money (even for the love of the products they still need to turn a profit) is the prime goal.
It's not in their interests to say how the queue is split, or even how the cards manufactured are split, it would upset some just knowing that .001% more cards are going to XX retailer.
 
Remember date parity <> queue numbers.
1000 notifiys on the US queue could be December 1st
yet the same 1000 on the EU queue could be October 25th
 
Simple fact is we just don't know, and never will.
 
We just have to have patience, and if something becomes available, pounce.... (still a lot jel you got yours though LOL)




What you say above Dwarfy about how they split the queue and the lack of visibility into the number of cards per queue we're in total agreement. For sure EVGA (like all companies) are in the business to make money, and I for one want them to succeed. If they don't succeed then, like other good companies in the past (like BFG), they go out of business. And when that happens then the next round of cards that come out from Nvidia we have one less player on the field and that's not good for anyone. So as odd as it sounds it's in my (our) best interest that EVGA makes a bucket of money :-)  I just don't want them to make a bucket of money at my expense. hehe!
 
But I'm not sure you've appreciated date parity aspect of things? Different regions will as you say have different numbers of customers - partially based on the numbers of population, the demographics of gamers per population etc. eg. there's 350 million people (roughly) in North america & canada, and some 460 million people in Europe - although that figure of 460m is somewhat contentious as to which specific countries are in Europe verses EU, etc. But the point is, that it's sorta likely EVGA have more customers in Europe - but in truth the figures aren't important to the case I'm making. 
 
With two queues, unless they happened to have exactly the same queue lengths ......you wouldn't (or at least shouldn't) allocate 50% of the cards into each queue. You would allocate whatever percentage of your production comes out based on the size of the queue. The actual numbers of cards is irrelevant, it's the percentages which matter, you want a FIFO (first come first serve) model. Otherwise you have the situation that's happening here here that people who came along in November are getting cards in NA, where people who were there on day 2 or 3 in September are still waiting in another zone. That doesn't seem fair to me. And the likelyhood it's because there are more customers in Europe than NA, but the allocations it's skewed. 
 
Don't get me wrong :-) It's up to EVGA to do with the queues as they see fit. We'll never know the how's/why's, but with the information that we do have, we can see some imbalances. I for one hope that they'll address these imbalances. It could simply be an oversight, or someone's made a mistake in the allocations. We shouldn't crucify anyone over that, but for sure, there's an imbalance that the queues in EU don't move like the NA ones in terms of speed (for some skus)
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's? 2021/04/06 09:41:04 (permalink)
3090 FTW on CCL. Grab it if you want, EVGA stopped caring about the EU ages ago. Their bigwigs are still cowards for not saying anything, laughable.

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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's? 2021/04/06 09:45:47 (permalink)
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's? 2021/04/06 09:59:11 (permalink)
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3090 FTW on CCL. Grab it if you want, EVGA stopped caring about the EU ages ago. Their bigwigs are still cowards for not saying anything, laughable.




Dunno about that. I mean sure, the data that we have points to an imbalance, but I'd have to assume that EVGA are smart. Deliberately turning away customers in a region (any region) because you stopped caring seems like a stupid thing to do. Can't see it from a company that wants to make money. 
Nahh, more likely someone has screwed up somewhere along the line. They may not even know the problem exists (as odd as that sounds) - but if so, it's 100% fixable. 
 
But I agree, the lack of information, even simple comms to customers, is laughable. Take the initiative EVGA, get ahead of the curve and publish a monthly status report of when you expect cards to drop, what skus. Don't have to give actual numbers, but it would at least help stave off the black hole of info here. 
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's? 2021/04/06 12:06:24 (permalink)
Evga should not post any number of cards delivered to customers simply cause there will be complains any way. Europe clearly has more import taxes and vat and thus may be not worth alocating more cards, but evga has done a good job and its actually the only company that has a qeueu and its possible to get some cards.

Iam not a fanboy or anything , but publicing numbers and skus will make the mater worse.
You cannot complain about the qeueus when how many thousands if not million has joined since start and they havent even received a card.

If somebody cannot wait ,pls go buy a card for 100-200-500 euro more cause its not worth waiting 1 year to save 50 euro or 30 per month not enjoying your cards. Retailers here are clearly scalping in europe so thats the real reason we are in a worse situation that the america.

Guys seriously, if you wanna buy a 3070 for example the cheapest you will find is 1000 euro if not like 1300 from retailers, so i understand why people are impatient including myself

But if its like to wait half a year its really more clever to buy abit more expensive and at least enjoy the card, if you dont have enouph money to do so, pls wait as all of us who want a fair price and not complaint in every post.

I understand the frustration here as iam waiting myself ........ Just wait (as usually)or find more ways to get like buy a prebuilt system which is the way to find something descent these days
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's? 2021/04/06 12:34:47 (permalink)
Faddaros
Evga should not post any number of cards delivered to customers simply cause there will be complains any way. Europe clearly has more import taxes and vat and thus may be not worth alocating more cards, but evga has done a good job and its actually the only company that has a qeueu and its possible to get some cards.

Iam not a fanboy or anything , but publicing numbers and skus will make the mater worse.
You cannot complain about the qeueus when how many thousands if not million has joined since start and they havent even received a card.



Could not agree more Faddaros! In fact, I mentioned it a few weeks ago in a similar conversation, that it may actually be illegal to publicly disclose numbers as it could allude to insider trading, as you are essentially giving away how well your business is doing and that of course affects stock price, etc. No, my suggestion (not complaint) was more around having EVGA give out a monthly report about what to expect in the near future. The actual numbers of cards need not be mentioned at all, but it could alleviate much frustration that exists out there. Things like....
 
     - For those of you waiting for the 3070 Black edition, we expect a drop of those cards on April 20th 
     - The large container of 3080s stuck in the Suez canal is back moving. We expect supply to improve in early May
     - etc 
 
Talking _general_ information which should be public, but for some reason isn't. A large part of the frustration that's there, is that it's just.....dark. No info at all. If someone told me, "Hey we won't have 3070 Black edition until August", then although I might be disappointed....at least your treating me as fairly as you can. I can then take that information and go "do something" with it. Maybe it's buy another different card, or I may decide to wait for the card, but your empowering the guy who's in the queue as best you can. 
 
As for the queue date parity between NA and EU  - that's a different problem from taxes etc. That's some internal allocation - and again, I'm not saying that there's anyone at fault here, but I believe fixable. 
 
Ps:- I have my 3090 - very happy with it from the queue. Did take 6 months, but love it.  Powering a home built flightsim setup and as you say, enjoying the money spent. Course I'd still like to suggest things on how to improve the situation going forward - so that people _still waiting_ have an easier time of it.  Yeah I could  "shrug my shoulders" and go "meh, I got mine"...... but it's not a great option to me. I'd like to try an improve things. If we don't try.....well then it never improves, right? 
post edited by alandoy - 2021/04/06 12:58:17
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's? 2021/04/06 13:50:41 (permalink)
Good Evening, here is the daily status for the EU queues.
After a 3 month silence we have an update on the 3080 FTW3 Ultra, this card moved 7 minutes since the last self-report.
 
Name                             SKU                 Latest Emailed Date
3090 FTW3 Ultra             3987                9/28/2020 2:20:00 AM PT
3080 XC3 Ultra               3885                9/17/2020 8:35:00 AM PT
3080 FTW3 Ultra             3897                9/17/2020 7:50:00 AM PT
3070 XC3 Black              3751                10/29/2020 6:15:19 AM PT
3070 XC3 Ultra               3755                10/29/2020 6:44 AM PT
3070 FTW3 Ultra             3767                10/29/2020 6:35:24 AM PT
3060 Ti XC Gaming         3663                 12/6/2020 01:51:48 AM PT
3060 TI FTW                  3667                 12/6/2020 12:10:42 AM PT
3060 XC Gaming            3657                 2/25/2021 09:00:41 AM PT
 
As usual, I will be back tomorrow if more timestamps show up. Best of luck for the watchers.
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's? 2021/04/06 23:55:32 (permalink)
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3090 FTW on CCL. Grab it if you want, EVGA stopped caring about the EU ages ago. Their bigwigs are still cowards for not saying anything, laughable.




Dunno about that. I mean sure, the data that we have points to an imbalance, but I'd have to assume that EVGA are smart. Deliberately turning away customers in a region (any region) because you stopped caring seems like a stupid thing to do. Can't see it from a company that wants to make money. 
Nahh, more likely someone has screwed up somewhere along the line. They may not even know the problem exists (as odd as that sounds) - but if so, it's 100% fixable. 
 
But I agree, the lack of information, even simple comms to customers, is laughable. Take the initiative EVGA, get ahead of the curve and publish a monthly status report of when you expect cards to drop, what skus. Don't have to give actual numbers, but it would at least help stave off the black hole of info here. 


It's not just about the cards, I remember being able to buy anything EVGA without issue since P55. The last motherboard series you could buy was X299, and that was only from the online store, they have skipped the current and last gen stuff. 
 
You and I will have to accept that they no longer sell motherboards and amongst other things to EU customers, and also accept that the US will always come first with GPU's. It is their company, they can do what they want at the end of the day, I do not actually buy their stuff anymore. I plan on getting the OC Formula for another build, at least I know I can buy it.

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