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Re: Titan X not going pci-e 3.x anymore, 2nd card 2017/11/08 13:06:09 (permalink)
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Re: Titan X not going pci-e 3.x anymore, 2nd card 2017/11/09 11:49:55 (permalink)
Wow.
Well, that was FAST.
 
I got the 'new' (not new, used) titan x 2 hours ago.
It does NOT smell like burnt electronics. :)
The DP ports work. :)
The pci-e fingers are really good. :)
The card swapped out VERY nicely, no issues, it didnt black screen, it didnt make the bios go crazy, it didnt do anything wierd at all.
I put it in, ran just some VERY quick tests (mirror's edge catalyst and warhammer vermintide).
The card does about 20 to 50 fps LESS than 2 of the other titan x cards I had (the first one, and the one before this last one), which makes me VERY VERY VERY sad/mad at the same time (disappointed? you bet).
BUT, it also ran to only 77c (admittedly, I only did 2 real quick tests, super fast quick tests), but if it is stable like this through all the testing, and doesnt get hotter than that (although as the card started getting hotter, the fps went down quickly, which worries me. The 1st and 3rd titan I had would not 'throttle' like that until about 80/82c.
 
But, hopefully, tonight I will be able to play with my friends and really stress the system (if I can actually play tonight, I am pretty hurting), and see what happens.
 
One other thing:
I have not recieved my pre-paid label to send the other card back yet?
I got 2 of the 3 emails (cross shipping), but not the 3rd (the 2nd email said to wait until the 3rd one came because it had a pre-paid label in it).
Usually I would see a PPLabel in a few hours to 1/2 a day  to ship the old one back?

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Re: Titan X not going pci-e 3.x anymore, 2nd card 2017/11/09 14:08:55 (permalink)
The prepaid label is in a plastic package taped to the outside of the shipping box.
It is in with the bill of lading. At least that has been where mine was. Take another look.

 
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Re: Titan X not going pci-e 3.x anymore, 2nd card 2017/11/09 17:31:49 (permalink)
Ahhh, thank you very much.
It was in the bubble where they ship to me, just like yours, so thanks.
The #2 email said to look for the email ( #3 ) for the shipping label, and I havent seen one, so thought it was going to be in an email.
Kind of a bad way to do things, say one thing then do another. :(
 
As for the video card:
I turned off Turbo mode on my cpu, and also turned off hyperthreading (I always have this off, but the last bad titan messed up the system (read further up) and I had to factory reset the bios, so that reset it back on (with 6 cores, I havent seen the need for 6 other virtual cores, and it seems to run things faster w/0 HT anyway, save some processing power.
So, I played a lot of (for me, anyway) Ghost Recon Wildlands, and everything was super great (except low fps, which may be due to me turning off cpu turbo mode). There were some weird glitches in the game that I have never seen before, like weird far away stuff going on, but that was it. Everything ran smoothly besides that, and that could just be the game (although I play this a lot and never saw that before).
Temps were SUPER good, at 77c, again. And that was playing for about an hour, everything on very high (all DOF off as well as Blur), Usually that would have pegged the video card at 83-84c, so very happy about that.
GPU core did NOT get to 100%. It only got to 99%, which is awesome I guess (maybe thats why I didnt get any ;hitching' in the game? ).
Memory controller only got to 41% With memory usage at 41.2% peak, 38% fan speed (uggg, I want to make it more, keep the card cooler longer, and worry later if the fan ends up going out).
So far, so good.
I think I finally got a good card, like my 1st one was (lets hope it lasts longer than 6 months though).
 
So, I am going to enable turbo mode in the bios for the cpu, test gaming again, then enable hyper threading, and game again to see if everything is good, and if I get my FPS back up with turbo and/or HT enabled.
 
EVGA, I am happy with this card, so far (except for the low performance frames a second). But, I will take some lower fps for stability, and actually being able to play my games.
:)
 
EDIT:
One weird thing happened when I put this card in though:
My mouse started going a bit faster in games than with ALL the previous cards.
Its almost like mouse accel is enabled, even though I have not touched a thing.
And, its only in games, not the desktop.
Weird.
Very weird.
 
But, I didnt uninstall and re-install the video card drivers yet, so that may be affecting it?
Dunno.
post edited by Dave3d - 2017/11/09 17:34:05

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Re: Titan X not going pci-e 3.x anymore, 2nd card 2017/11/09 17:36:05 (permalink)



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Re: Titan X not going pci-e 3.x anymore, 2nd card 2017/11/09 19:33:08 (permalink)
Grrrrr.
Stable as anything I have had before (8800gt, 280, 580, 780, etc), but I am NOT getting good frame rates?
I am getting HALF the framerates I used to get?
Why would that be?
Especially when my GPU CORE is the highest its ever been, at 1329? (previous cards only went to 1073? 1109?)
So, if its 'supposedly' going faster, then why am I only getting 1/2 to 3/4 the frame rates now?
 
I will try to uninstall drivers tomorrow and re-install, and see if that helps.

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Re: Titan X not going pci-e 3.x anymore, 2nd card 2017/11/09 20:21:47 (permalink)
Hmm. I have a feeling reinstalling the drivers isn't going to help. Guess we will see.


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Re: Titan X not going pci-e 3.x anymore, 2nd card 2017/11/10 13:49:32 (permalink)
What do you think it is?
I installed drivers, and msi afterburner again, and the temps are super super low at 43c now with fan 100% (and, they were already lower than any other card to begin with, the stock fans no msi afterburner at all, at 77c), and boost is kicking in now at 14xx instead of 13xx, and the frames are still being super low.
:(
GPU Shader is the highest its ever been also, at 2658 (is this one of the SuperClocked editions they sent me? Or maybe someone OC'ed the card and sent it back in?).
 
It doesnt make any sense though. that I am getting way less frames per second (and I dont mean a few frames, its 20 frames to 70 frames per second lost now).
 
I did have The Crew lock up on me, but I also changed some settings (it seems putting in the 780 made the game re-do some settings, and blur and dof were turned back on automatically, sigh), so that could have been the reason that it crashed (it actually hung, it didnt crash). So, that could have been me not restarting the game after changing settings back (at least, thats how I am choosing to look at it right now, unless another game crashes on me).
 
So, the testing continues. Hopefully I can figure out what is going on with the frames per second. Maybe changing the display port?

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Re: Titan X not going pci-e 3.x anymore, 2nd card 2017/11/10 13:58:09 (permalink)
When losing that many frames make sure all your in-game/nvidia control panel settings are correct. Also make sure that your cpu isn't overheating.


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Re: Titan X not going pci-e 3.x anymore, 2nd card 2017/11/10 14:18:42 (permalink)
I did reset the nvidia settings after re-install, set them back to my normal settings (Global: max preferred, everything that can be set to application controled, and fixed refresh rate (I have the setting on 120hz, and all my games at 120hz if supported, NO G-sync), no ambient occlusion or fxaa, max pre-rendered frames 3d app controlled, mfaa off, shader cache off (I just noticed this setting, should I have it turned On ? ), texture lod yes, texture quality high quality, threaded optimization auto, triple buffering off, v-sync use 3d app, vr us 3d app).
Does any of that sound out of place? (if you cant tell, I like higher refresh rates over quality).
 
CPU is at:
Core 0 113f/45c
Core 1 113f/45c
Core 2 116f/46.6c
Core 3 105.8f/41c
Core 4 114.8f/41c
Core 5 98.6f/37c
Cpu package 116.6f/46.6c
 
So, they are all good.
 
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Re: Titan X not going pci-e 3.x anymore, 2nd card 2017/11/10 14:39:05 (permalink)
Shader cache should be on, texture quality should be set to quality.


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Re: Titan X not going pci-e 3.x anymore, 2nd card 2017/11/10 23:06:06 (permalink)
OK, just did that.
And, DSR is always off, I never have it on.
 
Ghost Recon Wildlands crashed 3 times on me (today). Thats all I have played today.
:(
 
Edit:
Putting in the rma'ed EVGA psu tomorrow hopefully (Thanks EVGA! ).
 
Here are the results (temps, settings, etc. OC'ed CPU to see if frames got better, they only got like 2 fps better. 4ghz cpu vs 3.7ghz turbo cpu) of the last gameplay, Wildlands:
http://s1378.photobucket.com/user/dave3d_bc/media/TitanX5/5th_titan_plus_cpu_oc_zpsllakxl8m.png.html?sort=3&o=0
post edited by Dave3d - 2017/11/11 01:38:57

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Re: Titan X not going pci-e 3.x anymore, 2nd card 2017/11/13 15:15:51 (permalink)
Still getting very low frames per second.
I did static benchmark testing, and with better hardware than back in 2015, I am getting 1/2 to 3/4 of the scores benchmarking sies were getting.
So, something is wrong with this card also, sigh.
 
I have been down the last 2 days, bedridden, so am not calling tech support yet, but when I get back on my feet, rma time yet again.
Sigh.
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Re: Titan X not going pci-e 3.x anymore, 2nd card 2017/11/16 11:28:59 (permalink)
Sigh, I can not even complete a regular 3dmark FireStrike test, let alone an Ultra or an Extreme test.
http://s1378.photobucket.com/user/dave3d_bc/library/titan4?sort=3&page=1&postlogin=true
 
1/2 to 3/4 FPS in games, cannot even finish/pass a benchmark test (except, of course, EVGA's ocscanner test passes).
 
RMA again.
:(

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Re: Titan X not going pci-e 3.x anymore, 2nd card 2017/11/16 11:52:52 (permalink)
Sorry to hear that. Good thing you're not paying shipping on the rma's.


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Re: Titan X not going pci-e 3.x anymore, 2nd card 2017/11/16 12:02:49 (permalink)
Yeah, I just contacted them, and they said they didnt want to pay shipping anymore, because it passes their heaven and ocscanner testing (which it passes in mine too, but the score is very low compared to other cards they sent, and MUCH lower than the 1st card I bought brand new).
And, it wont even pass a regular 3dmark FireStrike test, let alone an Ultra or an Extreme test (which a couple of the others passed, but barely, I had to run the test 3x for it to pass on past cards, except the very 1st brand new one it passed easy).
I am getting tired of this.
Maybe I will try that SLI thing, with my 770 and 780. If only I could find my sli bridge that came with either one (I dont think that 8800gt sli bridge will work on a 780/770 will it?).

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Re: Titan X not going pci-e 3.x anymore, 2nd card 2017/11/16 12:28:36 (permalink)
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I dont think that 8800gt sli bridge will work on a 780/770 will it?

Should work fine.


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Re: Titan X not going pci-e 3.x anymore, 2nd card 2017/11/16 14:10:57 (permalink)
I found the X99 mobo one, so will try the 780/770 sli and see if it works at all (although I doubt it will).
 
I just installed the 388.21 drivers (DDU first, in safe mode, new install, drivers and Physx only, and NOPE, does not fix my broke arse titan x).
Still getting a Not Passed score in 3dmark Firestrike Extreme (although this 88.4% is the highest I have seen so far out of this card. But it needs 97% stability to pass). Only 2 cards have passed that test in my system, and neither of them were this 5th titan nor the 4th titan x. I think only the 1st brand new card and the 3rd card (AFTER it stopped crashing all the time) have passed.
:(
 
EVGA needs to update their testing methods.
Unigine Heaven and OCScannerX on 1920x1080 (heck, even on 2560x1440 they dont stress enough) do not stress the card like new games do.
If needed, I will provide all the testing and games I play, if they want to test.
I have all my 3dmark scores under Dave3d.
I have most fps' scattered in this thread and other threads, but I dont have an actual 'list' of my games lowest and highest fps, although when playing them (I always have steam fps counter on on all my steam games, and ubi counter on my ubi games) and I usually see (in Warhammer Vermintide) 70+ to 110+ fps in-game (in the INN, I usually see 130+ fps), and these cards are giving me 30 to 67 fps ingame, and 80+ fps in the INN), yeah, this card is a piece of junk.
 
EVGA, please stop saying these cards are fine, they work in your test bench setup, and please send me a good card.
I have even lost hope praying to GOD that you will give me a good card. Thanks EVGA. :(
 
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Re: Titan X not going pci-e 3.x anymore, 2nd card 2017/11/16 14:19:45 (permalink)
3dmark stress tests are highly dependent on the cards temp & clock. Lower temps equal a more stable clock speed which will produce a higher stability % in the 3dmark stress tests.
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Re: Titan X not going pci-e 3.x anymore, 2nd card 2017/11/16 14:28:14 (permalink)
This is the coolest running titanx I have had, at max 170.6f/77c in anything I have thrown at it.
With the fan on 100%, the max the temps got was 107.6f/42c
It really is the coldest running card I have had.
Unfortunately, it is also the worst fps card I have had (by 50% worse).
 
So, yeah.
:(

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Re: Titan X not going pci-e 3.x anymore, 2nd card 2017/11/16 15:02:13 (permalink)
So, just to be super positive, I read that you are supposed to use the DP port the furthest from the bottom, at the top of the card, so:
Bottom of card put into the slot in the case closest to mobo <= [DP] [DP] [HDMI] [DP to use] || Top of card you screw into the case with a screw. (DVI is next to the 1st 2 DP ports).
 
So, the DP at the top of the card is the one to use for single monitor, right?
This is what I have read, that this is the middle monitor port when using 3 monitors also, am I correct?
 
(I have used other ports, to no avail, I was just wondering and making sure).

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Re: Titan X not going pci-e 3.x anymore, 2nd card 2017/11/16 15:22:47 (permalink)
For single monitor you want to use B...



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Re: Titan X not going pci-e 3.x anymore, 2nd card 2017/11/16 15:29:54 (permalink)
hate to come back on this but you need to start to look at what I said
 
look at the reviews on that board to start   at best 50%  for all you know you got that lemon 50% board 
 
not to be a asus basher as you claimed but  my lats 3 were just crap   and then there were sabertooths as well   even my buddy a true blur asus guy ditched them  .   you say it all works fine with a 700 card ??   see that maybe down to asus famous  never ending bios uipdates for that ''improved stability  ''   after my sabertooths 18th bios update  I got to then wonder just how stable they are to start with  .   at least this asrock with all the pull off parts fron the crap asus;s I had  worked as expected on first boot and still to this day ob its first release bios   not 18+ bios later and still struggling for solid stability  ..
 
all you did so far it sure don't look like a card issue anymore , that's for sure ..   and with out a way to test outide you system used ?? your just chasing your tail
 
 
hope you the best of luck 
 
I won't bother you here any more   . 
 
good luck
 
 
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Re: Titan X not going pci-e 3.x anymore, 2nd card 2017/11/16 15:30:56 (permalink)
Oh, shoot.
I have been using C, because I saw that either here or on a review site back when I first got the card.
I will switch it to B and see if there are any benefits (although I have used B in the past, on both the brand new one I bought back then, and on a couple of the other cards I have gotten from rma).
Will that produce better fps, or more stable fps?
 
Off to change it and see.
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Re: Titan X not going pci-e 3.x anymore, 2nd card 2017/11/16 15:39:04 (permalink)
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hate to come back on this but you need to start to look at what I said
 look at the reviews on that board to start   at best 50%  for all you know you got that lemon 50% board 
 not to be a asus basher as you claimed but  my lats 3 were just crap   and then there were sabertooths as well   even my buddy a true blur asus guy ditched them  .   you say it all works fine with a 700 card ??   see that maybe down to asus famous  never ending bios uipdates for that ''improved stability  ''   after my sabertooths 18th bios update  I got to then wonder just how stable they are to start with  .   at least this asrock with all the pull off parts fron the crap asus;s I had  worked as expected on first boot and still to this day ob its first release bios   not 18+ bios later and still struggling for solid stability  ..
 all you did so far it sure don't look like a card issue anymore , that's for sure ..   and with out a way to test outide you system used ?? your just chasing your tail
  
hope you the best of luck 
 I won't bother you here any more   . 
 good luck
 
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I wish I had another X99 mobo to test with, but I dont.
I am wondering if that bad EVGA psu may have hurt the mobo also.
But, having all of these different titans in, and only 1 of them did that weird bios thing (and that titan they sent me was tore up from the floor up), I am not thinking it is the bios/mobo at all.
 
If you know anyone not using their X99 mobo, my friend said he would pay for shipping (not pay for the board itself, just the shipping to me to test it with), just to see if it is the mobo or not, I would be very grateful (and, if he didnt want it, who knows? Maybe I could borrow some money, since my Bday is coming up next month, and buy it from him/her? ). But, that is ONLY if the issue is the mobo, which I do not think it is. EVGA told me they havent had any new Titan X's, and are just sending back to people the ones they get back from people that say theirs is 'bad', ones that 'pass' their 'testing' (which is NOT good testing, I can tell you that right now)
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Re: Titan X not going pci-e 3.x anymore, 2nd card 2017/11/16 17:22:45 (permalink)
OK, changed the port, and nada, no effect.
 
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3DMark still has a hook to the video card, until you shut it down completely (dont ask me why, but just opening 3dmark makes the temps go from 77f to 82/83f, and nothing has even ran yet). :(
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Re: Titan X not going pci-e 3.x anymore, 2nd card 2017/11/16 17:54:13 (permalink)
Sajin
3dmark stress tests are highly dependent on the cards temp & clock. Lower temps equal a more stable clock speed which will produce a higher stability % in the 3dmark stress tests.



And, here are the results of the test in voltages and temps from the firestrike extreme test, which look excellent, except it wont pass, even when I lower the resolution to 1920x1080 :
http://s1378.photobucket.com/user/dave3d_bc/media/TitanX5/5thtitanx_100fanspeed_firstrikeextremetest_lastone_zpsdiqsgqn8.png.html?sort=3&o=0
 

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