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Re:SR2 build Project Super Deco
2011/07/03 14:33:40
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Me too. I am still hazy about the screw patterns. You want the 4 outer screws to be through holes to allow a 6-32 screw? Now what about those 4 screws that mate the halves? You want those blind for 6-32? Edit: I made a youtube video of my mill cutting out that aluminum block. Having difficulty uploading it from my phone.
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Re:SR2 build Project Super Deco
2011/07/03 15:59:47
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nateman_doo
Me too. I am still hazy about the screw patterns.
You want the 4 outer screws to be through holes to allow a 6-32 screw?
yep if that is what threads into the sr2 stock backplate. I still havnt had time to check. needs to be same style as what you have in your pictures of your chipset block counter sunk same way. nateman_doo Now what about those 4 screws that mate the halves? You want those blind for 6-32? yep, to use that screw that i sent you a link with the dimentions this is the one that needs to follow those dimentions exactly as i mentioned in that pm. counter bored to the screw specs. if you still have questions i can draw you a cad representation and send you the pics a bit later. not at that computer atm. lol
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Re:SR2 build Project Super Deco
2011/07/03 19:09:39
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So the outer socket holes you want countersunk from the top so they will be flush. Then only the nozzles will be sticking up?
Then the 4 mating screws are blind 6-32 threaded fro the underside?
Id make a cad drawing to make it idiot-proof.
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Re:SR2 build Project Super Deco
2011/07/04 02:01:21
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hope this answers the questions . best i can do wile drunk oh, and i will e-mail you the pdf so you can actually read the dimensions, lol
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Re:SR2 build Project Super Deco
2011/07/04 08:31:01
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Can you email that to me as well so I can see the screws. Got the blocks and they seem to be very tight if they get countersunk. Not too worried, just want to make sure they are exactly correct so that nothing goes wrong.
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Re:SR2 build Project Super Deco
2011/07/04 09:51:32
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Re:SR2 build Project Super Deco
2011/07/04 10:46:03
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Looking good. How long does a single CPU block take you?
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Re:SR2 build Project Super Deco
2011/07/04 11:13:54
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Don't know, haven't made one yet ;)
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Re:SR2 build Project Super Deco
2011/07/18 17:12:54
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Ok, while I've been waiting for a few custom pieces, I have been working on air flow and plumbing. I think I decided to encorporate a manifold/res into the top of the case like this. the design seems to change every time the wind blows, but making a little progress.
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Re:SR2 build Project Super Deco
2011/07/18 18:04:44
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What video cards are you using btw? Whatever you use, wouldn't you like some more copper? ;)
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Re:SR2 build Project Super Deco
2011/07/18 18:26:12
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yep! moar COPPER!! i have coded my 260 block and when funds allow will upgrade to more modern cards. after you get back from your orders i will send you the 2x-260 block to make if you like along with a few manifolds.
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Re:SR2 build Project Super Deco
2011/07/19 06:13:55
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Tell me about these manifolds. I was looking at them in your pic trying to figure out what it is. Looks like a big giant waterblock.
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Re:SR2 build Project Super Deco
2011/07/19 06:21:12
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I was thinking the same thing, but it could just be the angle that it is being shown.
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Re:SR2 build Project Super Deco
2011/07/19 08:35:01
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really just decorative, and a diferant twist on plumbing i guess. but now you have me thinking....would be a great placement for a tec sandwich
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Re:SR2 build Project Super Deco
2011/07/19 08:58:09
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Re:SR2 build Project Super Deco
2011/07/19 17:06:55
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If you have that all in series (instead of multiple parallel channels) you are making a tec chilled radiator. You can put a whole line of them in the back, and dedicate an entire (single rail) power supply to power them up. I really like the idea.
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Re:SR2 build Project Super Deco
2011/07/19 17:39:53
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it's all series with outlet for aditional rad in series with it all. I was only half serious about the tecs, but if i can figure out the math to keep the thing from becoming a condensation shower head, i might just do it. maybee, i should try to design it with the capability to add them in later. so basically a copper base and acrylic top as shown. then later when i get around to it, replace the acrylic with a copper spacer to house the tecs, then another top heat puller loop for the hot side. that way, I can run tec when i want to or not. with the flip of a switch. hmmmm.... but how do i make sure i dont get condensation issues? never used tecs before, but read lots of threads. the second manifold is much simpler and just is realy A bulkhead to house the quick disconects so the motherboard will slide out on the drawer slides uninhibited. I havn't got that one placed yet.
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Re:SR2 build Project Super Deco
2011/07/19 18:53:19
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Re:SR2 build Project Super Deco
2011/07/19 21:15:44
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actually, I think I had my decision made for me. in the thickness i want, that chunk of copper is $800. probably going to stick to clear acrylic for the manifolds, lol. (which means no tecs) but you never know, there is always the lottery. might happen, right?
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Re:SR2 build Project Super Deco
2011/07/19 21:30:45
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art deco! nice! It's great to see art styles come into play with modern tech.
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Re:SR2 build Project Super Deco
2011/07/19 21:38:43
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What's $800 to have a great looking computer?
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Re:SR2 build Project Super Deco
2011/07/20 01:50:19
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thanks Rhussain, it is fun designing for sure. trying to keep design style and function hand in hand. and AJ, you are right of course. by the time im done, if i can swing it, the case alone will have set me back cost around $2500, lol. If i was charging a customer it would be a $10k project. hope the SR-6 will fit in there because i will need to keep it around for at least 20 years to get my moneys worth expensive hobby this is. i know its hard to see in these cad mock ups but ive placed the two aditional manifolds. the heavy design work is almost done, now just have to fine tune the dimentions and finish up some styling, then i can cut some parts! I need to mount the actual water blocks to get exact manifold position as i want perfectly vertical piping colums inside. naaaate! hehe
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Re:SR2 build Project Super Deco
2011/07/21 13:23:14
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So, i am trying to figure out how to use tecs on that large top manifold block. the things I need to figure out are: how do i regulate it so it won't condensate? if i regulate it to stay at ambient, will that actually help cooling temps? which tecs should i use? if they are mounted to the back area of the block, will the block radiate the cooling throughout? anyone with tech experience please comment on my specific design. I have read all the posts about the math and such, just need some practical advise for this specific build. thanks.
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Re:SR2 build Project Super Deco
2011/07/21 18:51:28
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If I had to guess: They would mount from the bottom. Since this is going to be in the neighborhood of 50 lbs of copper (Guinness book anyone?) I don't think the tec's will freeze that much copper for a while. Besides you have to cool the hot side of the tec's. You can rig up an "thermostat" that would interrupt the circuit when the water temp got to a certain point which you would set according to the dew chart in your room. lephron is the guy to ask about tec's.
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Re:SR2 build Project Super Deco
2011/07/24 03:33:21
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Ok, now I feel like Dr. Frankenstein! I have conceved of a monster! handles up to 13 55mm tecs running undervolted to keep water temp just above dew point. should use 520 watts and keep water temp stable at a controlled set point of between 20-30 degrees. (if i did my math right)
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Re:SR2 build Project Super Deco
2011/07/24 06:40:33
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Re:SR2 build Project Super Deco
2011/07/24 06:59:56
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Let me know the final price that ends up costing you. and any markup you may want if i decide i would like one once yours is finished of course. Please be sure to let me know ;) I likes pure copper ;) Edit: I wonder. Could you design that to be a spinner like the rims on cars have been showing up for the past years? If so, the hypnotic effect alone may make me think 800$ + is worth it . lol
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Re:SR2 build Project Super Deco
2011/07/24 12:55:42
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it is possable to make it spin, but a really special rotery bearing union is needed as there are a minimum of 4 water connections required. i havnt found any small ones so far that will pass an inlet and an outlet through the same body. I could make it 'look' like its spinning by alternating current through some led's in a circular patern. http://www.barcoseals.com/type_e-75rs_rsx.htm rough estimate on cost of the tech cooler disk part alone is: copper:10x10x.5 - 2 of these is $600 I need to shop around a bit on this thats a wierd size. copper spacers: $100 acrylic: about $50 screws: $10 tecs: $40 each x 13 = $520 so cost of parts is around $1280 give or take $100 on the cooler power supplies are, what? $200 each for those tec ones. i havnt figured out how many i would need yet. each tec will only run at about 20% of its rated wattage though so probably won't need more than 1 or 2. then the sr-2 manifold wich really is designed to only fit in my case as it serves a lot of other functions in the structure. ( I could design one that basically is the size of a 120.3 radiator though) has about $700 in copper and $50 in acrylic. now that manifold is pretty much only for esthetics. it really just replaces a bunch of hoses. then we need to run the hot water from the hot side of the disk out of the case and to an external rad box. so as not to screw with the inside case temps. i will probably put this in a window or outside. so like i said this thing is getting out of control, but should be a show stopper when finished. edit: I think i can cut the .5 copper down to .25 without losing any cooling that would slash the copper price in half or even less than half. might have to do that for weight reasons as well.
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Re:SR2 build Project Super Deco
2011/07/24 13:39:33
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Damn, this thing is going to be awesome!!! Gl, I hope everything goes smoothly.
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Re:SR2 build Project Super Deco
2011/07/24 15:33:48
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Gratuitous it is possable to make it spin, but a really special rotery bearing union is needed as there are a minimum of 4 water connections required. i havnt found any small ones so far that will pass an inlet and an outlet through the same body. I could make it 'look' like its spinning by alternating current through some led's in a circular patern. http://www.barcoseals.com/type_e-75rs_rsx.htm rough estimate on cost of the tech cooler disk part alone is: copper:10x10x.5 - 2 of these is $600 I need to shop around a bit on this thats a wierd size. copper spacers: $100 acrylic: about $50 screws: $10 tecs: $40 each x 13 = $520 so cost of parts is around $1280 give or take $100 on the cooler power supplies are, what? $200 each for those tec ones. i havnt figured out how many i would need yet. each tec will only run at about 20% of its rated wattage though so probably won't need more than 1 or 2. then the sr-2 manifold wich really is designed to only fit in my case as it serves a lot of other functions in the structure. ( I could design one that basically is the size of a 120.3 radiator though) has about $700 in copper and $50 in acrylic. now that manifold is pretty much only for esthetics. it really just replaces a bunch of hoses. then we need to run the hot water from the hot side of the disk out of the case and to an external rad box. so as not to screw with the inside case temps. i will probably put this in a window or outside. so like i said this thing is getting out of control, but should be a show stopper when finished. edit: I think i can cut the .5 copper down to .25 without losing any cooling that would slash the copper price in half or even less than half. might have to do that for weight reasons as well. Thank you for the response, I'll be considering as I'm already showing with whats been ordered from people my build will be exuberant in final price as well. I'll think about doing that it really does appeal to me and my love of copper ;). However I'll hold off on it at least for now till i get other parts of the system going so much to save up for an buy still. lol. Still man seams to be awesome and I may just come back to you and say Hey here's doe! Do for me like Doo did! heheh :) so please keep the plans around for now ;)
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