Ilikeguitars
the price on that bad boy makes my wallet hurt. wish i could get into water cooling but im too much of a chicken

There is nothing to fear but fear itself. I cannot even imagine going back to air cooling at this point. A quality AIO is a great way to get started. If you have one for the CPU and another for the GPU, that's even better. GPU boost can be dramatically impacted by thermals and you'll experience higher GPU performance (due to higher core clock speeds that come automatically with lower core temps) without overclocking.

iamjanco
I was one of those who got to the notify button early, but it didn't help. oh well, i'll just wait on the hc block (i'm on that list), or pick up an optimus if it's available sooner (if it does indeed appear).
 
yes, i do have a copy of the aio version.

I made a new queue thread for those trying to get only the HC block itself.
 
https://forums.evga.com/K...Y-THREAD-m3286432.aspx

iamjanco
About the lack of led lighting on the KPE: while it's not labeled a "DARK" product by EVGA per se, it essentially is considered one by them and the target market it was originally geared toward (extreme overclockers).
 
Now that TiN no longer works for EVGA, even with Vince (K|NGP|N) still on board, that might not matter anymore. Opinions will probably be mixed though.

I can somewhat understand where this rationale might come from. While that is true, it ignores the fact that extreme overclocking does not occur using water cooling. The Hydro Copper is not made for extreme overclocking and doesn't do anything to support it. I use chilled water, but that does not rise to the level of being "extreme" in the manner we normally think of it. If you are doing extreme overclocking, then the Hyrdo Copper is removed and set aside, replaced with an LN2 or DICE pot. Whether or not the water block had lighting wouldn't matter in the context of extreme overclocking because you would not be using it. So, I think to say the water block has no lighting because it is made for extreme overclockers is somewhat contradictory and if it were EVGA floating that as the idea, I would consider it misleading. It has lighting on the logo, so that eliminates the logic of lighting somehow detracting from the sport. Some people enjoy having something that looks nice, including people that enjoy extreme overclocking in the true sense of the expression. I like having the light source. My 1080 Ti and 2080 Ti Hydro Copper blocks had lighting. There's no good excuse that I can identify for it to be missing from the 3090 KPE Hydro Copper. Maybe there was a sourcing problem for the components or something. I could accept that. If it is because it wasn't viewed as important, then I'd seriously question that and view it as unintelligent.

I am not going to mention it again because there is no sense in beating a dead horse, and whatever the underlying reason for it to be missing might be, we can't fix stupid. It's too late for that anyhow. I'm just happy to have my GDDR6X running about 15°C cooler under load now. That is a huge improvement. I am thankful to have the Hydro Copper for that reason, even though I am more than a little bit miffed about the missing lighting feature. 
 

iamjanco

Mr. Fox

iamjanco
About the lack of led lighting on the KPE: while it's not labeled a "DARK" product by EVGA per se, it essentially is considered one by them and the target market it was originally geared toward (extreme overclockers).
 
Now that TiN no longer works for EVGA, even with Vince (K|NGP|N) still on board, that might not matter anymore. Opinions will probably be mixed though.

we can't fix stupid. 

You were doing okay until the bolded part. Like I said,  opinions will probably be mixed though.
 
Let's leave it at that. Enjoy the card 

That's the world we live in now. We're surrounded by it. It's the new normal and I'm not optimistic that it is going to ever get fixed, LOL. It is important to call things like we see them and not pretend the Emperor is wearing clothes when he is actually naked. And, I am already enjoying the card running cooler than it did with the hybrid monstrosity. Huge improvement.

Mr. Fox

iamjanco
About the lack of led lighting on the KPE: while it's not labeled a "DARK" product by EVGA per se, it essentially is considered one by them and the target market it was originally geared toward (extreme overclockers).
 
Now that TiN no longer works for EVGA, even with Vince (K|NGP|N) still on board, that might not matter anymore. Opinions will probably be mixed though.

I can somewhat understand where this rationale might come from. While that is true, it ignores the fact that extreme overclocking does not occur using water cooling. The Hydro Copper is not made for extreme overclocking and doesn't do anything to support it. I use chilled water, but that does not rise to the level of being "extreme" in the manner we normally think of it. If you are doing extreme overclocking, then the Hyrdo Copper is removed and set aside, replaced with an LN2 or DICE pot. Whether or not the water block had lighting wouldn't matter in the context of extreme overclocking because you would not be using it. So, I think to say the water block has no lighting because it is made for extreme overclockers is somewhat contradictory and if it were EVGA floating that as the idea, I would consider it misleading. It has lighting on the logo, so that eliminates the logic of lighting somehow detracting from the sport. Some people enjoy having something that looks nice, including people that enjoy extreme overclocking in the true sense of the expression. I like having the light source. My 1080 Ti and 2080 Ti Hydro Copper blocks had lighting. There's no good excuse that I can identify for it to be missing from the 3090 KPE Hydro Copper. Maybe there was a sourcing problem for the components or something. I could accept that. If it is because it wasn't viewed as important, then I'd seriously question that and view it as unintelligent.

I am not going to mention it again because there is no sense in beating a dead horse, and whatever the underlying reason for it to be missing might be, we can't fix stupid. It's too late for that anyhow. I'm just happy to have my GDDR6X running about 15°C cooler under load now. That is a huge improvement. I am thankful to have the Hydro Copper for that reason, even though I am more than a little bit miffed about the missing lighting feature. 

Yeah that's exactly why I'm irritated about the complete lack of a lighting option.  It doesn't cost that much to add, people that don't want to use it can easily turn it off, and it's a freakin' $300 block on a $2000 card, LN2 people aren't going to use a block because it's a pain in the ass to remove/put back on when not using LN2, so it really makes zero sense for this block to NOT have RGB when the FTW3/XC3 HydroCoppers do and they're "cheaper".
 
The lower temps with how low my temps already were before the block are quite great though, I'm pretty happy with it, even though it could be "better" according to most that have had or do have other blocks on regular 3090s.

Ilikeguitars,
Water cooling is a commitment from both you and your wallet.  If you can afford to do it and have the time to build and maintain they system it should provide you added performance.  It all depends on your comfort level with funding, you can keep it simple or go extreme.  Soft tubing has come a long way and provides early users who are not sure the ability to get most if not all the performance benefits from an open loop system.  The larger commitment is time.  Time to build the system and then every 6 months or so to maintain the system by flushing fluids, cleaning blocks, and then fresh fluid in.  This is why open loops are not for everyone, but for those who have it I think its more of a hobby and stress relief to do these tasks. 
 
Do your research and think about what you are able to commit to and find that balance.  
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ShawnB420

Dabadger84
 people that don't want to use it can easily turn it off, 

 
It's not always that easy or even possible to turn it off. That's the problem. Why should I suffer unicorn puke when I would rather avoid it like the plague. Too many are about the looks. 

Thats funny...thanks for the daily chuckle....

Arscon
guys maybe you know how off oled lcd in kngpn? I would rather not dismantle my kingpin just to unplug the cable

Prime example of it not always easy to turn it all off. 

tbrown7552
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enewt

oni222
 
Here is my timestamp: 4/23/2021 4:48:04 PM PT

I would post in the block thread: https://forums.evga.com/KINGPIN-HC-BLOCK-QUEUE-ONLY-THREAD-m3286432-p3.aspx
 
The folks in that thread should be able to add you to the self-reported list that they are maintaining in that thread. It is approximately 39 seconds in...10:00:39 am PT.  Good luck!
 

oni222 has been added to the list in the block thread: https://forums.evga.com/KINGPIN-HC-BLOCK-QUEUE-ONLY-THREAD-m3286432-p3.aspx#3293732
Thanks enewt.

Fayalite
Can you imagine that today's shuffle has a 3090 with a water block; but it is more expensive than a KPHC, and less capable...

Only 2 out of 3 8pin, promised core clock at 1785; and all that for the low price of 2349.99... Having less for more. But it has RGB 🤣

Hope EVGA will not make the KPHC too limited.

And people are still trying to buy it...

Fayalite
Can you imagine that today's shuffle has a 3090 with a water block; but it is more expensive than a KPHC, and less capable...

Only 2 out of 3 8pin, promised core clock at 1785; and all that for the low price of 2349.99... Having less for more. But it has RGB 🤣

Hope EVGA will not make the KPHC too limited.

Yep.  eVGA would be well within their rights to raise the normal non-HC Kingpin to at least $2400, but they haven't because they don't want to be seen as taken advantage of the situation like all the other AIBs are, would be my guess.  
 
That Gigabyte card I would never buy personally, Waterforce cards not that long ago had a large piece of their pie being returned or exchanged because of either leaking, or arriving to buyers EMPTY because they leaked so much they had nothing left in them.  I'm sure Gigabyte has "solved" that by now, for the most part, or it wouldn't still be making them because the cost vs profit would be too high, but still, that worries me enough to steer clear of Waterforce products in general.

telehogUPS del Kingpin HC waterblock and my Kingpin card been naked for months not in use, waiting for a waterblock.  Put block on and my Kingpin with HC block does nothing ! No red light  nothing ! Put RTX 3090 FTW 3 with Optimus block back in  and works fine. I  think Ill wait and trouble shoot later. Must be touching something and grounding out. Just don't have the right mind set right now. ARG  !

Did you test the card using the AIO when you first received it?

I think  when I tore card down I did this . I took photos of card naked when I tore down the photos our the same. Nope I found a photo on You tube On review for Kingpin and that spot is open . Guess ill look some more.

telehog
The King is dead and has 1000 w vbios . No RMA  allowed. 

Ouch!
 
Try looking up a guy on youtube called northridgefix.  I've seen him fix some 30 series cards.  It might be worth a try to email him.