I'm just gonna say screw LTT, it's basically for his followers and again not fair to the public consumers. He's only maybe the good guy for his followers and just another entity competing for GPU resources for everyone else

Clovis559
 
That is all correct. To RMA you can replace water block, etc, but to send it back in it needs to be in the state you received it originally. If you drill through or modify anything physically you're tossing out your warranty. You would have to get the Hybrid kit from someone willing to part with it. Personally I would not, as I would be loosing my warranty. They don't sell the Hybrid Kit for a Kingpin separately. The ones they do sell, won't fit.
 
People will get mad at everyone right now, it's best not to respond to them. I feel for them, but it's the times we live in. People have been upset on these forums for a while and I hope in time everyone gets a card.  This is also not the first time this has happened. 2080ti's were hard to get, there was a mining craze, etc. If you need a card you need a card, you don't need to justify yourself to everyone why you need it!
 
This que looks short, which makes it even more promising for those who got a time. For the AIO Kingpin it was the same, and soon after they finished the que (About 3 weeks), they opened up a much larger, longer que. You shouldn't have temp problems unless you live on the sun or Arizona.
 

Thank you for the info! And it's fine, it didn't really bother me that much. I was actually entirely unaware the card wasn't just a fancier AIO when I got in queue, so I honestly owe the guy who chastised me for making me aware of it.
 
Assuming I can get it, it sounds like I'd be better off just trading it on here for a 3070 or a 3080, or even a KP Hybrid if someone's willing to part with theirs. The idea of putting together a custom water loop scares me a bit.

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spezjr95

Clovis559
 
That is all correct. To RMA you can replace water block, etc, but to send it back in it needs to be in the state you received it originally. If you drill through or modify anything physically you're tossing out your warranty. You would have to get the Hybrid kit from someone willing to part with it. Personally I would not, as I would be loosing my warranty. They don't sell the Hybrid Kit for a Kingpin separately. The ones they do sell, won't fit.
 
People will get mad at everyone right now, it's best not to respond to them. I feel for them, but it's the times we live in. People have been upset on these forums for a while and I hope in time everyone gets a card.  This is also not the first time this has happened. 2080ti's were hard to get, there was a mining craze, etc. If you need a card you need a card, you don't need to justify yourself to everyone why you need it!
 
This que looks short, which makes it even more promising for those who got a time. For the AIO Kingpin it was the same, and soon after they finished the que (About 3 weeks), they opened up a much larger, longer que. You shouldn't have temp problems unless you live on the sun or Arizona.
 

Thank you for the info! And it's fine, it didn't really bother me that much. I was actually entirely unaware the card wasn't just a fancier AIO when I got in queue, so I honestly owe the guy who chastised me for making me aware of it.
 
Assuming I can get it, it sounds like I'd be better off just trading it on here for a 3070 or a 3080, or even a KP Hybrid if someone's willing to part with theirs. The idea of putting together a custom water loop scares me a bit.

There are legit people here with a Kingpin AIO, who will trade you for a Kingpin Hydro Copper. You end up on the short end of that stick, but not by much and in reality you come out because you'll get a card that you want.
 
I had fears of water cooling for a long time, and I recently have built my first loop, now I'm addicted to it like crack h20 cooling. This could be the push you need to start your first loop. Maybe your an Overclocker and just don't know it!
 

oldmanian
Wait wt happened? The kingpin hydrocoppers already sold out and there is no question option? Apologize for not checking the boards for a few days. It this is a pretty crappy consequence. Are. They just going to do these in batches?

 
They went out fast. But that could be good news. The first round of Kingpins went out fast also. They went through the first ques quickly. Then they opened up a larger second que. I would keep an eye posted. This was given a heads up by Jacob for this week, and they did post on twitter on TeamEVGA and Jacobs the Que would be open today. (Don't quote me on these dates, but the first Que was like Nov 22, and the second que was started on like Dec 16th.)

I was one of those who got to the notify button early, but it didn't help. oh well, i'll just wait on the hc block (i'm on that list), or pick up an optimus if it's available sooner (if it does indeed appear).
 
yes, i do have a copy of the aio version.

I am currently 5th,6th or 7th on this self report queue as two others have the same timestamp as I do. I assume EVGA must have a system to determine who comes first in tie situations?  Maybe milliseconds from server log??? Anyone know?

Nacman
I am currently 5th,6th or 7th on this self report queue as two others have the same timestamp as I do. I assume EVGA must have a system to determine who comes first in tie situations?  Maybe milliseconds from server log??? Anyone know?

Well I believe it's simpler. If they have a SQL database, not even timestamp, just the unique ID with auto increment on the table.

You are the first one.  Nice setup.  I'm sure others will post once they get theirs.  Congrats on getting the card.  

Fayalite

Nacman
I am currently 5th,6th or 7th on this self report queue as two others have the same timestamp as I do. I assume EVGA must have a system to determine who comes first in tie situations?  Maybe milliseconds from server log??? Anyone know?

Well I believe it's simpler. If they have a SQL database, not even timestamp, just the unique ID with auto increment on the table.

Doh! Makes complete sense

It did sell out faster then I expected. Being a higher priced extreme card I thought it might take a bit to sell out but really right now getting a 3080 from retailers is about double the price so the Kingpin doesn’t look that bad.

Mr. Fox

pclausen

Mr. Fox
Question: Are others finding the only lighting is the K|NGP|N logo on top by the water ports? I do not see any other lighting. I updated Precision X1 and tried LED Sync and it looks like that is all there is. Is this correct?

That is correct.  Only the FTW3 HC's have the LEDs across the block.

Thank you for responding. Well, shoot. That is a real pisser. I only care about white, but to have no lighting whatsoever truly sucks. I don't know what the people that designed it were thinking, but charging $300 for a waterblock with no lighting is messed up. I guess I will be hoping for an OptimusPC block and selling this as soon as I can get one. Super disappointing that they pulled this silly stunt. It makes me regret having purchased it now.
 
 

That's actually funny, because i specifically loved the very little lighting this card had. I don't like a ton of lighting on my pc, lighting kind of makes things look cheap or messy in my opinion, at least if there's too many colors or too much lighting. I usually always turn off all the leds i can on my gpus

does anyone know the thermal pad thickness for the hydrocopper kingpin. both the front side and the backplate.please and thank you.

Mr. Fox
As I mentioned, I only care about white. I am not an RGB fan. I like having the lighting in an otherwise dark room. And, I like having the option to choose. But, it is the underlying issue of a flagship product being incomplete and missing a feature that has been taken for granted as standard fare that bothers me most. They could have even put a spin on it as an excuse and called it a "Hydro Copper Dark" but finding out as a surprise because they conveniently failed to make mention of it is kind of raunchy and not very customer-centric. It just feels really half-assed.

Unfortunately this seems to be the new normal in this environment of scarcity in all aspects of basic life. Companies are profit driven and they don't care.  They want to get product to market as fast as possible and don't care anymore because there are wait lists for everything and if you don't like the block, there are tons and tons of people who don't care.  They just want to *consume*.  It's craziness!
 
I will remember the companies that treated their customers well and those who didn't.  I have a KPE and I'm on my second one - I'm not a fan of the garbage pump, the whine, the noise, etc. except what choice do I have?  I'm on the HC block upgrade list and can only hope.  I missed the queue here by a little bit for the hydro. Ugh...  Not happy how this is going down except what choice do I have?  Everything else is worse (e.g., Newegg, BB, AMD) at this point.

alexaqui

Mr. Fox
As I mentioned, I only care about white. I am not an RGB fan. I like having the lighting in an otherwise dark room. And, I like having the option to choose. But, it is the underlying issue of a flagship product being incomplete and missing a feature that has been taken for granted as standard fare that bothers me most. They could have even put a spin on it as an excuse and called it a "Hydro Copper Dark" but finding out as a surprise because they conveniently failed to make mention of it is kind of raunchy and not very customer-centric. It just feels really half-assed.

Unfortunately this seems to be the new normal in this environment of scarcity in all aspects of basic life. Companies are profit driven and they don't care.  They want to get product to market as fast as possible and don't care anymore because there are wait lists for everything and if you don't like the block, there are tons and tons of people who don't care.  They just want to *consume*.  It's craziness!

I will remember the companies that treated their customers well and those who didn't.  I have a KPE and I'm on my second one - I'm not a fan of the garbage pump, the whine, the noise, etc. except what choice do I have?  I'm on the HC block upgrade list and can only hope.  I missed the queue here by a little bit for the hydro. Ugh...  Not happy how this is going down except what choice do I have?  Everything else is worse (e.g., Newegg, BB, AMD) at this point.

I agree. It is sad that we have been reduced to using everything else is worse as a measurement for an industry-leading product offering. Using the "better than a poke in the eye with a sharp stick" as the standard that defines owning a flagship product shows how messed up things really are.

bmx045 
I think you're not going to be alone in this

I am also pretty confident about that. There are lots of people that like RGB and lots that do not. There are lots of people that want the option whether they use it or not. I'd be happy to just have white LEDs, but having nothing is going to rub a lot of people the wrong way. I'd rather have nothing than being stuck with a rainbow puke theme though.

the price on that bad boy makes my wallet hurt. wish i could get into water cooling but im too much of a chicken