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2020/09/22 08:00:54 (permalink)
Was there any hints from Jacob that the 3090 Kingpin Hydrocopper or water block ONLY be out this year?
 
 
 
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Mid/late November now for kpe hybrid.

Where did you read this? Any update on date for the KPE HC?
 

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Re: RTX 3090 Kingpin Hydrocopper 2020/09/22 08:16:12 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby oVerRateD 2020/09/22 11:16:15
The Kingpin is supposed to be out in October but no mention of waterblocks yet.
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Re: RTX 3090 Kingpin Hydrocopper 2020/09/22 08:38:00 (permalink)
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Re: RTX 3090 Kingpin Hydrocopper 2020/09/22 09:07:57 (permalink)
No problem. I almost feel like not adding it to a custom loop because the hybrid version has it's own 360mm rad
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Re: RTX 3090 Kingpin Hydrocopper 2020/09/22 09:11:21 (permalink)
Custom loop should be better then anything they use.

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Re: RTX 3090 Kingpin Hydrocopper 2020/09/22 09:16:40 (permalink)
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Custom loop should be better then anything they use.




Yeah for sure, I had a custom loop with the 1080ti Kingpin on a 360rad then I upgraded to a 420 rad and it dropped my temps only a little. No performance gains just lower temps. I would be interested in seeing the difference but I guess only time will tell now.
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Re: RTX 3090 Kingpin Hydrocopper 2020/09/22 10:11:50 (permalink)
I wish Jacob would confirm somewhere in this forum that kingpin will actually release in oct/nov
 
I'd be willing to wait. Especially if we get a 500watt bios
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Re: RTX 3090 Kingpin Hydrocopper 2020/09/22 10:15:46 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby oVerRateD 2020/10/27 15:29:11
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The Kingpin is supposed to be out in October but no mention of waterblocks yet.


There will be both a HYBRID and HC version of the KPE.


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Re: RTX 3090 Kingpin Hydrocopper 2020/09/22 10:16:41 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby oVerRateD 2020/09/22 11:14:09
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I wish Jacob would confirm somewhere in this forum that kingpin will actually release in oct/nov
 
I'd be willing to wait. Especially if we get a 500watt bios


I'll confirm late October.  Of course, that's how things stand today.
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Re: RTX 3090 Kingpin Hydrocopper 2020/09/22 11:45:08 (permalink)
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I wish Jacob would confirm somewhere in this forum that kingpin will actually release in oct/nov
 
I'd be willing to wait. Especially if we get a 500watt bios


I'll confirm late October.  Of course, that's how things stand today.




Any Ideas on pricing?.... 
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Re: RTX 3090 Kingpin Hydrocopper 2020/09/22 13:13:07 (permalink)
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Re: RTX 3090 Kingpin Hydrocopper 2020/09/22 15:11:11 (permalink)
Looking from the price leak on the 3090 ftw ultra at $1800 it will go for $2200 to $2300 before tax and shipping
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Re: RTX 3090 Kingpin Hydrocopper 2020/09/22 15:36:34 (permalink)
The hybrid 2080 ti kingpin was 700 over the FE card, so I'm guessing $2200 as well for the hybrid version, and a little more for the hydro version.

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Re: RTX 3090 Kingpin Hydrocopper 2020/09/22 15:54:48 (permalink)
mmm.   I would think the hydro would be a couple of hundred over a standard 3090 for waterblocks,  If not, I may look at something aftermarket.  Anyone know historically how much evga waterblocks added to the base model?

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Re: RTX 3090 Kingpin Hydrocopper 2020/09/22 16:03:09 (permalink)
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mmm.   I would think the hydro would be a couple of hundred over a standard 3090 for waterblocks,  If not, I may look at something aftermarket.  Anyone know historically how much evga waterblocks added to the base model?


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Re: RTX 3090 Kingpin Hydrocopper 2020/09/22 16:06:37 (permalink)
Last year it was a month after the kingpin release before evga released the water block for it. Priced at a scary $350.

Kingpin was $1900 and not sold with the hydro copper block.

So my guess is $2500 total. :/

Puts it into perspective when the last 2089ti kingpin was released in april 2019. Not a whole lot of time.
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Re: RTX 3090 Kingpin Hydrocopper 2020/09/22 16:29:37 (permalink)
Confirmed for late October but did not mention the year.
 
October 2021?

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Re: RTX 3090 Kingpin Hydrocopper 2020/09/22 16:41:44 (permalink)
Earlier you get it, more return on investment.  Even Sajin converted from Titan to 2080ti KP.    
 
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Re: RTX 3090 Kingpin Hydrocopper 2020/09/22 18:26:08 (permalink)
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Custom loop should be better then anything they use.




the AiO with 2080ti KP was very good, i had mine eventually under HC block and the temps were better by 2c, kept the loop going because i can control the fans from the fans controller as i wish but with KP AiO i wasn't sure if i was controlling it 100% with MSI AB since i can't figure out PX or OC the gpu as good as MSI AB does it
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Re: RTX 3090 Kingpin Hydrocopper 2020/09/23 01:24:51 (permalink)
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The Kingpin is supposed to be out in October but no mention of waterblocks yet.


There will be both a HYBRID and HC version of the KPE.




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I wish Jacob would confirm somewhere in this forum that kingpin will actually release in oct/nov
 
I'd be willing to wait. Especially if we get a 500watt bios


I'll confirm late October.  Of course, that's how things stand today.





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Re: RTX 3090 Kingpin Hydrocopper 2020/09/23 08:31:48 (permalink)
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Last year it was a month after the kingpin release before evga released the water block for it. Priced at a scary $350.

Kingpin was $1900 and not sold with the hydro copper block.

So my guess is $2500 total. :/

Puts it into perspective when the last 2089ti kingpin was released in april 2019. Not a whole lot of time.



Wait, is that normally how Kingpin are sold? water block is separate?
Thought they were either included or separate like non kingpins

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Re: RTX 3090 Kingpin Hydrocopper 2020/09/23 09:42:54 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby oVerRateD 2020/09/23 13:28:26
Last year they were sold separate. Maybe because the blocks weren't ready yet..I dont think it ever changed later either.

I had that rad hanging in my case as their was no where to mount it for a month while I waited for the copper block release. Hehe.

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Re: RTX 3090 Kingpin Hydrocopper 2020/09/23 21:47:20 (permalink)
Is the kingpin itself considered a hydro copper or is completely different?
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Re: RTX 3090 Kingpin Hydrocopper 2020/09/23 21:51:49 (permalink)
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Is the kingpin itself considered a hydro copper or is completely different?




It is completely different. It usually is the absolute pinnacle of GPU development. The best everything. This Kingpin will have a hybrid AIO with a 360mm radiator and they said they plan on having waterblocks available at some point.
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Re: RTX 3090 Kingpin Hydrocopper 2020/09/24 03:54:33 (permalink)
Is it usually worth waiting for these? 
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Re: RTX 3090 Kingpin Hydrocopper 2020/09/25 02:20:53 (permalink)
It depends what kind of card you want. These are the best of the best. The highest quality silicone, with the best power delivery, and actual voltage control. These are the cards overclockers put under ln2 to set records. If you like messing around overclocking your system to squeeze the most out of it, then this is the card for you. Most people would be better off with a ftw3 either air or hydro copper, imo 
 
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Re: RTX 3090 Kingpin Hydrocopper 2020/09/25 02:32:50 (permalink)
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Is it usually worth waiting for these? 




It's pretty much the best gaming experience you can get right now to own the current generation of Kingpin card. That said you need a very powerful CPU and monitor to really take advantage of a Kingpin.

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Re: RTX 3090 Kingpin Hydrocopper 2020/09/25 04:04:48 (permalink)
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Is it usually worth waiting for these? 




It's pretty much the best gaming experience you can get right now to own the current generation of Kingpin card. That said you need a very powerful CPU and monitor to really take advantage of a Kingpin.


lmao

They aren’t any different than say a FTW3 for just gaming. The performance is literally essentially the same. The 30 series has been shown to have almost zero OC headroom. The KP card won’t be much different. It’ll OC a little higher than some other high end cards based on the higher power limit, but it won’t be significant. Maybe 2-3 FPS at most in specific scenarios. Other than the big AIO cooler or Hydrocopper, it’s going to perform the exact same as a higher end card for just every day gaming.

The only advantage of the card is for XOC or benchmarking. That’s where it really shines.
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Re: RTX 3090 Kingpin Hydrocopper 2020/09/25 04:15:46 (permalink) ☼ Best Answerby oVerRateD 2020/10/27 15:35:24
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Is it usually worth waiting for these? 




It's pretty much the best gaming experience you can get right now to own the current generation of Kingpin card. That said you need a very powerful CPU and monitor to really take advantage of a Kingpin.


lmao

They aren’t any different than say a FTW3 for just gaming. The performance is literally essentially the same. The 30 series has been shown to have almost zero OC headroom. The KP card won’t be much different. It’ll OC a little higher than some other high end cards based on the higher power limit, but it won’t be significant. Maybe 2-3 FPS at most in specific scenarios. Other than the big AIO cooler or Hydrocopper, it’s going to perform the exact same as a higher end card for just every day gaming.

The only advantage of the card is for XOC or benchmarking. That’s where it really shines.



I agree you won't see too much of a difference in gaming.  It's all about clocks and benches.  

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Re: RTX 3090 Kingpin Hydrocopper 2020/09/25 11:30:48 (permalink)
2080Ti FE 1199
2080Ti FTW3  1500    +25.10%
2080Ti KPE  1900      +58.47%
 
3090 FE  1499      
3090 FTW3  1800     +20.08%
3090 KPE    2300~2400   +53.43% ~ 60.11%
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