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JealousBlue

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JealousBlue
Finally got my Hydrocopper kit installed on my Kingpin, and installed my hardline loop. When removing the KP hydro kit, the thermal pads were in horrible shape, had turned into a sticky playdough consistently and was a nightmare to scrape off the VRAM. Absolutely crazy how much the temperature of both the GPU and Vram/Mem junc temps dropped.
Temps were taken after an hour of running port royal stress test in 3dmark
 
With Hybrid kit
 
GPU Temperature: 64.6C MAX 64.6C
GPU Memory Junction temp: 86 MAX 86
Mem1 Max Reached : 79.3C
Mem2 Max Reached : 79.3C
 
With Hydro Copper
 
GPU Temperature: 51.7C MAX 51.8
GPU Memory Junction temp: 66C MAX Reached 68C
Mem1 47.4C MAX 48.1
Mem2 53C MAX 53.5
 

 

Just curious as my block is coming in tomorrow, but whats your ambient air temp? Your hybrid temps are like 15-20*C higher than mine, and your custom loop looks stout and 50*C temps for a custom loop build seems really high. 

Ambient temps are around 21C, but can get warmer as the room isn't too large and the 5950x/3090 generate a lot of heat. There likely could have been something wrong with my hybrid cooler, the thermal pads were reduced to a sticky mush versus an actual pad on removal, had to spend an hour scraping it off. As far as the 50C temp that is not high at all for a 3090 Kingpin or any 3090 really in the middle of an hour long stress test, and with the system handling the heat from the 5950x at the same time to boot. Fluid temp got up to 37C due to running an hour of prime 95 on CPU to grab those temps before the GPU stress test ran though. Performance difference between custom loops and AIO's is only a few degrees, unless you doing something abstract like chilling your rads.

I was quite surprised with how good the 360mm aio was for the kingpin tbh, its almost better temps than my wc 2080ti and way way faster. My ambient temps are 24-25*C and my kingpin sits around 43*C gaming. 
My 2080ti hybrid was in the 60s for temps and on water it dropped to mid 40s. 

I guess with a delta of 13*C its not bad, if that holds true then mine hopefully should be low 40s or hopefully lower since my water temps stays around 26-28*C, mainly cause i have like 1140mm of rad space lol. Did you use the provided paste or aftermarket?

I used the pre-applied paste, by the time I got to that step I was tired and just wasn't worth removing it. Keep me posted on what your thermals end up being at, in normal gaming (Apex/FPS's etc I hover around 42C, creep up to about 50C in Cyberpunk max settings). Not sure how accurate my water sensor plug is because its in one of the outlet ports on the GPU, could be picking up extra few degrees from vicinity of the GPU. Had planned on putting it on a spare port on the distroplate but found out at the very end of build that my fittings were too big to allow something screwed in next to it.

If I read this correctly the card got to like 50 and water 37 degree celsius? Is this with a tdp of 100%? Would be nice to see how it is performing under 520w load. Delta of 13 degree celsius is ok for ~400w I guess.
 

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babayega
3090 kingpin isnt binned , its easily understandable because of the price. the HOF edition(there are different versions for the HOF) is the only 3090 binned. the difference between kp and other cards other than HOF is the better power delivery and the xoc bios with full voltage control. 

tps34433

babayega
3090 kingpin isnt binned , its easily understandable because of the price. the HOF edition(there are different versions for the HOF) is the only 3090 binned. the difference between kp and other cards other than HOF is the better power delivery and the xoc bios with full voltage control. 

 
 
Dude you are 100% incorrect here.. 


I have proof that the 3090 Kingpin is binned. Because someone physically wrote on my die frame with a damn pencil by hand on my own 3090KP. And I know several other people who own 3090 Kingpins with the same writing on theirs too (Different hand writing of course, as it could’ve been written by a different person) And the writing says 1995. Which is the default speed of the kingpin silicon. I assume the 1995 is for 1995Mhz. And they test to see if that GA102 die can sustain that 1995 or better based on a certain temperature or voltage. 
 
EVGA selects a random 10 GA102 dies out of 100 GA102 dies, then they test all of those 10 for the absolute best (1) single die. That 1 of 10 becomes a Kingpin 3090.. The the other 9 random GA102’s go to become other 3090’s. The memory is also binned. 
 
I own a 3090KP, not sure what miss info your just making up here man. The 3090 Kingpin is absolutely binned, and in all honesty, like who cares? That’s what you pay for. We have an awesome bios just for our cards, and several other awesome things to go with it. It’s not that big of a deal if a GPU is binned. The 3090 Kingpin is only $490 dollars more expensive than the cheapest air cooled EVGA 3090. That’s not that much of a premium.. Last I checked the 3090 Strix was even more expensive lol. 
 
 
You could technically just buy (10) RTX3090’s and test for the fastest one. Obviously evga was apparently pretty limited on silicon (We all were), so they were not doing a more thorough binning process. But, the single fastest (1)GA102 of (10) GA102’s is certainly good enough for me. There are people with really good FTW3’s or really good Strix cards that haul ass too. But like I said before, the memory is also binned.
 
 
But I will tell you right now, I can go run a game at 2,175Mhz all the way up to like 50C (Directly out of the BOX with +150)  An air cooled 3080Ti isn’t gonna do that man. 
 
Not sure why your hating on the 3090KP so bad. It is blistering fast, and the silicon and memory is just ridiculously good. 
 
 
One last thing.. The 3090 Kingpin is not magical. So poor overclocking skill isn’t going to make this card amazing. I mean, my last 2080Ti was a founders edition and I had it moving 30% faster than a RTX3070 (Now that was extreme). And it was also drastically faster than a stock 2080Ti Kingpin. But, it took a lot to get there. I had to solder my card, flash it’s bios, and put it under custom watercooling to maintain these speeds daily. I would have much rather had the 2080Ti kingpin to start with from the get go. (Because my silicon sucked in my 2080Ti) it needed tons of voltage, and I could never catch the expert overclockers who did own 2080Ti kingpins, because my reference 2080Ti was holding me
back...
 
So in all honesty, if you can’t see the value in a 3090 Kingpin just don’t buy one. But I can assure you that the KP GA102 is binned and tested for a fact! And, I have reputable people who can back me
up on this. 

tps34433

Absolutely! no OC needed they run 2Ghz or better right out of the box with a 3090KP. They are all tested to boost to 1995mhz or better default. Mine actually clocks up in games. It starts out at 1,995Mhz and as the card gets warmer and warmer it moves to 2,010Mhz then 2,025Mhz where it stays. 
 
The 3090KP is only $490 more expensive than the cheapest 3090 available from evga. And that $490 also includes watercooling as well. It’s a great value. 
 
 
Also try the pre-installed LN2 bios, that helps quite a bit with memory OC.
 
But for general gaming? No need to OC at all! I mean, these cards are monsters bone stock! 
 
 

tps34433

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babayega
3090 kingpin isnt binned , its easily understandable because of the price. the HOF edition(there are different versions for the HOF) is the only 3090 binned. the difference between kp and other cards other than HOF is the better power delivery and the xoc bios with full voltage control. 

Dude you are 100% incorrect here.. 


I have proof that the 3090 Kingpin is binned. Because someone physically wrote on my die frame with a damn pencil by hand on my own 3090KP. And I know several other people who own 3090 Kingpins with the same writing on theirs too (Different hand writing of course, as it could’ve been written by a different person) And the writing says 1995. Which is the default speed of the kingpin silicon. I assume the 1995 is for 1995Mhz. And they test to see if that GA102 die can sustain that 1995 or better based on a certain temperature or voltage. 

EVGA selects a random 10 GA102 dies out of 100 GA102 dies, then they test all of those 10 for the absolute best (1) single die. That 1 of 10 becomes a Kingpin 3090.. The the other 9 random GA102’s go to become other 3090’s. The memory is also binned. 

I own a 3090KP, not sure what miss info your just making up here man. The 3090 Kingpin is absolutely binned, and in all honesty, like who cares? That’s what you pay for. We have an awesome bios just for our cards, and several other awesome things to go with it. It’s not that big of a deal if a GPU is binned. The 3090 Kingpin is only $490 dollars more expensive than the cheapest air cooled EVGA 3090. That’s not that much of a premium.. Last I checked the 3090 Strix was even more expensive lol. 


You could technically just buy (10) RTX3090’s and test for the fastest one. Obviously evga was apparently pretty limited on silicon (We all were), so they were not doing a more thorough binning process. But, the single fastest (1)GA102 of (10) GA102’s is certainly good enough for me. There are people with really good FTW3’s or really good Strix cards that haul ass too. But like I said before, the memory is also binned.


But I will tell you right now, I can go run a game at 2,175Mhz all the way up to like 50C (Directly out of the BOX with +150)  An air cooled 3080Ti isn’t gonna do that man. 

Not sure why your hating on the 3090KP so bad. It is blistering fast, and the silicon and memory is just ridiculously good. 


One last thing.. The 3090 Kingpin is not magical. So poor overclocking skill isn’t going to make this card amazing. I mean, my last 2080Ti was a founders edition and I had it moving 30% faster than a RTX3070 (Now that was extreme). And it was also drastically faster than a stock 2080Ti Kingpin. But, it took a lot to get there. I had to solder my card, flash it’s bios, and put it under custom watercooling to maintain these speeds daily. I would have much rather had the 2080Ti kingpin to start with from the get go. (Because my silicon sucked in my 2080Ti) it needed tons of voltage, and I could never catch the expert overclockers who did own 2080Ti kingpins, because my reference 2080Ti was holding me
back...

So in all honesty, if you can’t see the value in a 3090 Kingpin just don’t buy one. But I can assure you that the KP GA102 is binned and tested for a fact! And, I have reputable people who can back me
up on this. 

That, I just did not have data to explain how these are binned, but one logic of it is... The promise of the card, it is not 1695mhz and so the promise makes it binned anyway. I keep mine at +105 GPU and +700 memory just to be safe on a daily use... Never go above 45C with less then 25C ambiant. And after all that issue with new world, which seems to be power delivery related (until we truly know this is speculative only) I am sooooo happy to have paid a premium for a full custom PCB/power delivery.

I do not use my card for LN2, some would be outraged, I reached 15.5K on Port Royal knowing nothing on OC with only a custom loop with a single 420 rad for it.

I can agree some are duds and hardly go above the expected frequency... Anything above 1920 is a bonus, EVGA never promised better. And this is what you pay for, if you can have better, then good, but don't rant on something that is not advertised. Strix can do better, yes, FE can do better as well... But this card is designed for LN2, and you will get better under such circumstances, know the product you buy before setting your expectations. Thanks tps34433 for your insights.

 
Absolutely! no OC needed they run 2Ghz or better right out of the box with a 3090KP. They are all tested to boost to 1995mhz or better default. Mine actually clocks up in games. It starts out at 1,995Mhz and as the card gets warmer and warmer it moves to 2,010Mhz then 2,025Mhz where it stays. 
 
The 3090KP is only $490 more expensive than the cheapest 3090 available from evga. And that $490 also includes watercooling as well. It’s a great value. 
 
 
Also try the pre-installed LN2 bios, that helps quite a bit with memory OC.
 
But for general gaming? No need to OC at all! I mean, these cards are monsters bone stock! 
 
 

babayega
mine had nothing on frame just a blue dot u could see that in the pic. i know the 2080ti kp had writings but not the 3090 kp hc