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Re: RTX 3090 EVGA FTW 3 - Ekwb Waterblock install - Not booting
2021/04/30 13:57:16
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EK Vector here...no issues ...2 months...great temps.
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Re: RTX 3090 EVGA FTW 3 - Ekwb Waterblock install - Not booting
2021/04/30 14:17:28
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Talked to a guy on Reddit and it’s not block specific he’s on his 4th rma and using the optimus there’s some weak spot on this PCB somewhere has to be.
Good luck boys, I redeemed my protection plan and on the list for a strix 3090 and going to be blocking that instead. These ftw 3 are way too sus and I don’t have the patience for rma roulette
If you want to water cool this card just don’t it’s not worth the risk at all. I’m lucky I work for a pc parts vendor so I’ll be able to get something else a lot easier than most.
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Re: RTX 3090 EVGA FTW 3 - Ekwb Waterblock install - Not booting
2021/04/30 21:24:40
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I'm getting error 62 and error 97 on a brand new FTW 3090 that I didn't absolutely nothing with except install and try to use.
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Re: RTX 3090 EVGA FTW 3 - Ekwb Waterblock install - Not booting
2021/04/30 22:12:31
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Yeeep. I get a d7 which is no vga.
I’m not water cooling any 3000 series at this point there’s reports of this on strix and xc3 as well
It’s not specific to block, brand or anything. Count me out this gen. Gonna just keep my cpu looped
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Re: RTX 3090 EVGA FTW 3 - Ekwb Waterblock install - Not booting
2021/05/01 07:03:39
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hoping my b stock 3090 ftw ultra and quantum vector block install goes ok....
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Re: RTX 3090 EVGA FTW 3 - Ekwb Waterblock install - Not booting
2021/05/03 11:07:22
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EVGA If you read these then I just want to thank you. I experienced the best customer service I’ve ever had through a company and especially during these harder times. My replacement 3090 will be here soon via cross ship and I am on the auto notify list for a 3090 hydro copper as I’m going that route for water cooling and I’ll give someone a stellar deal on the ftw3 3090 once I get it
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Re: RTX 3090 EVGA FTW 3 - Ekwb Waterblock install - Not booting
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Re: RTX 3090 EVGA FTW 3 - Ekwb Waterblock install - Not booting
2021/05/03 11:28:46
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For me? They cross shipped me a new card ASAP 1-3 business days :). Also got put on the list auto notify for a hydro copper :). So I’m a happy camper just running this one on air till I get the hydro copper
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Re: RTX 3090 EVGA FTW 3 - Ekwb Waterblock install - Not booting
2021/05/03 14:18:48
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I too installed the EK block and backplate, my 3090FTW Ultra is bricked now. I only found this thread after my rig wouldn't boot. I'm a long time custom rig builder, I've went through the phase change cooling, water cooled graphics cards, back with the Athlon 1300-3200-3400's the lkast time AMD was on top. I customize Harley gauges, and work on main boards every day changing leds out for a different colors. I've taken the card apart multipul times, and can't see anything wrong, it came apart easy, no prying, or pulling, the putty was loose, not binding the heatsink to the card. GamersNexus had a harder time than what my card came apart. I also tried returning my MB's bios back to before the resizable bar as I seen cards getting bricked for that, tried both bios's, I'm at a loose why it's bricked. I'm just starting to get my RMA started, I had a issue submitting my RMA for what ever reason i submitted the form twice and it never went through, some1 was nice enough to start it for me from the support center. I've been OCing so long KingPin and I used to get our cards at CompUSA in Madison Heights, MI. Here is my rig with the 97 boot error code. I 1st tried removing the backplate as the water lines swung out enough to remove it and plug it back in the agp slot. The oh **** moment. I'm signed up for the hydro copper and prolly just keep my RMA'd 3090 on air when I get it back. 
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Re: RTX 3090 EVGA FTW 3 - Ekwb Waterblock install - Not booting
2021/05/04 14:05:23
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I shipped my card out today, overnight. See what happens.
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Re: RTX 3090 EVGA FTW 3 - Ekwb Waterblock install - Not booting
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Re: RTX 3090 EVGA FTW 3 - Ekwb Waterblock install - Not booting
2021/05/06 14:10:42
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2nd card. Heated up using stress test. Stock cooler came off relatively easy actually. New ekwb block just to make sure there is no funny business going on. Bam it fired up. Looks great. Works great. 4 days later. Error 97 load vga bios. Whilst just sitting on my desk. There is more to this than what we are hearing. No bending, dropping nothing. I am at a loss here. I don't know what to do
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Re: RTX 3090 EVGA FTW 3 - Ekwb Waterblock install - Not booting
2021/05/06 21:24:17
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2nd card. Heated up using stress test. Stock cooler came off relatively easy actually. New ekwb block just to make sure there is no funny business going on. Bam it fired up. Looks great. Works great. 4 days later. Error 97 load vga bios. Whilst just sitting on my desk. There is more to this than what we are hearing. No bending, dropping nothing. I am at a loss here. I don't know what to do
Sorry to hear. That really sucks. Have you opened an RMA ticket? I'm going on 7 days with my EK block.
post edited by skyline090 - 2021/05/06 21:26:14
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Re: RTX 3090 EVGA FTW 3 - Ekwb Waterblock install - Not booting
2021/05/06 21:33:07
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Well my RMA has been processed and a shipping label was created today.
I think i'm just going to wait my turn for the hydro copper, how ever long that may be.
I've been trying to score another 3090FTW Ultra at Micro Center, I've waited in line (40 in front of me) from 5am 2 different Tues, this last Tue no EVGA products or 1 3070 i think, didnt matter i wasnt interested, i took my step son with me, nothing worth scalping ether, last tue it was only 3060-3070's, with only being able to buy one 3000k series card a month i'm being picky.
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Re: RTX 3090 EVGA FTW 3 - Ekwb Waterblock install - Not booting
2021/05/06 22:13:19
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I had my card since Oct. 27th and put a hybrid kit my card for a month or so and did it twice. I had my EK waterblock on my card since mid-January and it is still running as I am writing this. Disassembled it twice also. I also have a backplate on my card too.
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Re: RTX 3090 EVGA FTW 3 - Ekwb Waterblock install - Not booting
2021/05/07 07:48:41
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Bambi0380
I'm not trying to install that block and backplate again. If try anything with the replacement card, after using it for a few weeks, I'll order a AlphaCool and use the stock backplate. I have a EK Block and BackPlate for sale in good condition only used once, if anyone wants it.
post edited by SpaceGhhostC2C - 2021/05/07 07:49:48
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Re: RTX 3090 EVGA FTW 3 - Ekwb Waterblock install - Not booting
2021/05/07 11:20:45
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I too installed the EK block and backplate, my 3090FTW Ultra is bricked now. I only found this thread after my rig wouldn't boot. I'm a long time custom rig builder, I've went through the phase change cooling, water cooled graphics cards, back with the Athlon 1300-3200-3400's the lkast time AMD was on top. I customize Harley gauges, and work on main boards every day changing leds out for a different colors. I've taken the card apart multipul times, and can't see anything wrong, it came apart easy, no prying, or pulling, the putty was loose, not binding the heatsink to the card. GamersNexus had a harder time than what my card came apart.
I also tried returning my MB's bios back to before the resizable bar as I seen cards getting bricked for that, tried both bios's, I'm at a loose why it's bricked.
I'm just starting to get my RMA started, I had a issue submitting my RMA for what ever reason i submitted the form twice and it never went through, some1 was nice enough to start it for me from the support center.
I've been OCing so long KingPin and I used to get our cards at CompUSA in Madison Heights, MI.
Here is my rig with the 97 boot error code. I 1st tried removing the backplate as the water lines swung out enough to remove it and plug it back in the agp slot.
The oh **** moment.
I'm signed up for the hydro copper and prolly just keep my RMA'd 3090 on air when I get it back.
Very nice build....I have the same BP custom D5 pump covers.(single pump though). Really like how you plumbed in your drain...awesome build, too bad the EK Block didnt work out, hope you get it sorted.
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Re: RTX 3090 EVGA FTW 3 - Ekwb Waterblock install - Not booting
2021/05/07 12:01:37
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How many of you have tried the Kapton tape thing? I put my stock cooler back on my card and the thing is working fine (gets up to 80C with the fans at 60%) but its functional and working well for games, makes me think its something making contact with the backplate or some other kind of interference from the block/backplate combo. Going to try to reblock the card this weekend and see if I can get it running better. If you have been following my thread the first time around the block was not making good contact with the GPU. RE my first attempt the card booted and worked fine with the waterblock on but began to decrease performance, and would ramp up to 78 degrees C and then would crash. After opening it up I found this (and no I didn't let them slide while opening):  This was with all the instructed pads from EK - fixed this problem and used thinner pads to ensure good contact, did the same with the backplate and got no boot. Put stock cooler & pads back on - booted just fine and has been operating for weeks. The backplate is either bending the card, or something that shouldn't be is making contact. Going to try the Kapton tape suggestion from earlier in this thread, just figured everyone should have this info. How many of you have tried reinstalling the stock cooler to get it to boot? Those of you who have tried Kapton, how did it work out?
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Re: RTX 3090 EVGA FTW 3 - Ekwb Waterblock install - Not booting
2021/05/07 12:27:01
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Please post pics of PCB with Kapton tape installed.....I saw that as well back on this Thread!
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Re: RTX 3090 EVGA FTW 3 - Ekwb Waterblock install - Not booting
2021/05/07 12:47:18
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rjbarker
Very nice build....I have the same BP custom D5 pump covers.(single pump though).
Really like how you plumbed in your drain...awesome build, too bad the EK Block didnt work out, hope you get it sorted.
Thanks, I wish everything would have went well. I was really looking fwd to the finished build. Bambi0380
How many of you have tried reinstalling the stock cooler to get it to boot? Those of you who have tried Kapton, how did it work out?
I think we all replaced the stock cooler wen they wouldn't boot, we have too to get them RMA'd. This is the only card I've ever taken apart that didn't function when i put it back together.
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Re: RTX 3090 EVGA FTW 3 - Ekwb Waterblock install - Not booting
2021/05/07 13:07:15
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Hello i tried the kapton thing but i forgott to make pictures off the PCB whit the tape on
I builded my loop a week ago and for now my 3090 ftw3 Ultra runs fine and has incredible Temperatures
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Re: RTX 3090 EVGA FTW 3 - Ekwb Waterblock install - Not booting
2021/05/07 13:17:57
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I think we all replaced the stock cooler wen they wouldn't boot, we have too to get them RMA'd.
This is the only card I've ever taken apart that didn't function when i put it back together.
My question really is how many of you tried them with the stock cooler, and how many booted?
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Re: RTX 3090 EVGA FTW 3 - Ekwb Waterblock install - Not booting
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Re: RTX 3090 EVGA FTW 3 - Ekwb Waterblock install - Not booting
2021/05/07 14:06:54
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I was curios if any EK represeinitive has asked to see the failed card, block and backplate or if they even asked to see the water block/backplate. The only way to rull out which or what happened is to have them both in hand. They keep saying its not their product, but it's very easy to say its not their product when EVGA is RMAing cards without question. If any EVGA rep would like to see my block n backplate, i'd be more than welcome to send them in, I wont ever install them and I can't sell them to some unexpecting sole. Bambi0380
SpaceGhhostC2C
I think we all replaced the stock cooler wen they wouldn't boot, we have too to get them RMA'd.
This is the only card I've ever taken apart that didn't function when i put it back together.
My question really is how many of you tried them with the stock cooler, and how many booted?
This thread wouldn't be here if they were booting. We all re installed the factory cooler and tried installing it again.
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Re: RTX 3090 EVGA FTW 3 - Ekwb Waterblock install - Not booting
2021/05/07 14:12:58
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My opinion is its the backplate, the stands are inconstant as they are machined with the backplate, not a separate stand like the evga backplate that are similar to a MB stand any1 that wants to measure their stands to see you need to measure the whole backplate, the show side is flat, where the underside is all different heights and will give incorrect measurements  
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Re: RTX 3090 EVGA FTW 3 - Ekwb Waterblock install - Not booting
2021/05/07 14:36:27
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SpaceGhhostC2C
This thread wouldn't be here if they were booting. We all re installed the factory cooler and tried installing it again.
That simply isn't true. If you re-read the whole thread there are people who have gotten the card to work with the stock cooler back on, like myself.
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Re: RTX 3090 EVGA FTW 3 - Ekwb Waterblock install - Not booting
2021/05/07 14:46:48
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SpaceGhhostC2C
This thread wouldn't be here if they were booting. We all re installed the factory cooler and tried installing it again.
That simply isn't true. If you re-read the whole thread there are people who have gotten the card to work with the stock cooler back on, like myself.
If you read the whole thread no need to ask then? Just asking? Your the one asking, and saying if i read the whole thread. again this thread we all have tried re installing the factory cooler.
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Re: RTX 3090 EVGA FTW 3 - Ekwb Waterblock install - Not booting
2021/05/07 20:19:02
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Is it possible to use the OEM backplate + EK waterblock?
Does the Alphacool waterblock work with the OEM backplate?
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Re: RTX 3090 EVGA FTW 3 - Ekwb Waterblock install - Not booting
2021/05/07 22:53:33
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I am still troubleshooting my issues and I wish I would have seen this thread before weeks of misery. Bought 3080 ftw3 at launch. Used it for months on air no problem. Installed EK waterblock front and back no problems for a month. Then my computer simply shuts off. Wont even post. Got a rma card cross shipped put it on my test bench on air and stressed it for 24 hours. No problems so put the ekwb back on, put it in my system and no boot. Thought my MB slot had died because the slot under it worked when I installed a old card. Ordered new motherboard reassembled again and nothing. It seems both cards in my possession are dead. EVGA has been stellar at helping me so far. I guess its the time to order a different block You can add me to the list for 3080 failure after installing EKWB. After all the systems I have built, never had a single problem with EK. I waited so long to get the EK block on this card. Very sad to see the blame game playing out on customers.
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Re: RTX 3090 EVGA FTW 3 - Ekwb Waterblock install - Not booting
2021/05/09 02:37:09
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I installed my GPU block a few hours ago on my RMA'd card, everything is working great for the time being. Nice temps, etc. We will see what the longevity of this is. While installing the block I did notice some funny stuff around the screw holes, it looked like copper shavings on the PCB, I mounted the block twice and saw that around a couple holes. I'm not sure if the screws are shedding or they are grinding against the grounding pads around the screw holes. If that is the case it would explain a lot of the issues, shavings bridging contacts on components on the pcb. During and at the end of my install before testing the GPU I blew out everything to make sure none of the shavings had a chance to make their way to any components while powered on.   It's very insignificant but you can see a little copper spec above the screw hole on the left pic, and then nothing in the right pic after I blew it off. I noticed this after removing the screw, and then looked for other specs and found a couple on the PCB. I proceeded to blow them off with air. Maybe something to consider. Additionally I made sure not to over tighten the back plate as per instructions and also to use those plastic washers with the back plate to give it a little more stand off. Also used electrical tape on the back plate the second time around, although the clearance now with the washers now is ample, so I think that was redundant.  FYI one of the Inductors does not make contact with the water block I had to stack pads ( 5.5mm ) to achieve contact. 
post edited by GlaucomaPredator - 2021/05/09 02:43:25
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