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Re: RTX 3090 EVGA FTW 3 - Ekwb Waterblock install - Not booting
2021/05/09 11:13:56
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I read this thread, here is on other forums it's crazy the number of people who have problems with their RTX FTW3 cards and on Asus strix with EKWB blocks! I don't know who to blame EVGA or EKWB, but there is a serious problem at this level! To be corrected quickly. I have noticed that the ones that are having problems have serial numbers that start with 2014 or 2112 on the FTW3. I have an original RTX 3080 XC3 ULTRA with a serial number starting with 2012. I have not noticed a problem similar to those announced on the FTW3 through the internet, but other problems remain with the blocks EKWB. I will be putting on a waterblock soon, but definitely not EKWB. And the same many people have problems with the EKWB waterblock on the XC3, between coilwhine is overheating with the backplate, not to mention poorly machined waterblock which requires thermal pads of 6 to 7 mm on the VRM and coil, reddit thread. EKWB is catastrophic this series! I recommend looking and trying when possible to put on Alphacool, or WATERCOOL (XC3 available and FTW3 soon, sometime in 2021). People who had EKWB blocks on XC3s and switched to WATERCOOL no longer reported having any problems! EKWB not so perfect as we are led to believe!
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Re: RTX 3090 EVGA FTW 3 - Ekwb Waterblock install - Not booting
2021/05/09 11:51:05
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Brickokermis
I read this thread, here is on other forums it's crazy the number of people who have problems with their RTX FTW3 cards and on Asus strix with EKWB blocks! I don't know who to blame EVGA or EKWB, but there is a serious problem at this level! To be corrected quickly.
I have noticed that the ones that are having problems have serial numbers that start with 2014 or 2112 on the FTW3.
I have an original RTX 3080 XC3 ULTRA with a serial number starting with 2012. I have not noticed a problem similar to those announced on the FTW3 through the internet, but other problems remain with the blocks EKWB. I will be putting on a waterblock soon, but definitely not EKWB.
And the same many people have problems with the EKWB waterblock on the XC3, between coilwhine is overheating with the backplate, not to mention poorly machined waterblock which requires thermal pads of 6 to 7 mm on the VRM and coil, reddit thread.
EKWB is catastrophic this series!
I recommend looking and trying when possible to put on Alphacool, or WATERCOOL (XC3 available and FTW3 soon, sometime in 2021).
People who had EKWB blocks on XC3s and switched to WATERCOOL no longer reported having any problems! EKWB not so perfect as we are led to believe!
That's because the XC3 EKWB block doesn't make contact with the back row of inductors. I had an xc3 prior to the ftw3 and bought a watercool block because the ekwb isn't designed properly. Also I don't believe this is a widespread issue, we are a small vocal minority. There are thousands of cards and blocks out there without this problem. Having successfully put on this ftw3 block now, I can confidently say that there are some issues with the block. It is not cut properly and it warps the PCB, these blocks are not precision cut. This could be fine because PCBs are meant to take abuse but over time I can see this being a bigger issue, solder cracking from the pressure, etc. I will purchase extended warranty. Then the problem of having observed the metal shavings coming out of the screw holes or grounding pads, not sure which.
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Re: RTX 3090 EVGA FTW 3 - Ekwb Waterblock install - Not booting
2021/05/09 12:28:17
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So are you saying you have an xc3 before you upgrade to FTW3? Did you have any problem? I also read that the XC3 would be a "tank" on this construction and that the FTW3 would be more fragile. I don't know what to think of all this. Because my card has an SN 20129, made in Taiwan, red lips I bought the 10 year warranty 3 days after receiving my card. My card and guarantee until December 15, 2029
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Re: RTX 3090 EVGA FTW 3 - Ekwb Waterblock install - Not booting
2021/05/09 13:26:26
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Brickokermis
So are you saying you have an xc3 before you upgrade to FTW3? Did you have any problem? I also read that the XC3 would be a "tank" on this construction and that the FTW3 would be more fragile.
I don't know what to think of all this.
Because my card has an SN 20129, made in Taiwan, red lips
I bought the 10 year warranty 3 days after receiving my card. My card and guarantee until December 15, 2029
I had no issues with my XC3, it was solid. It is my understanding that the XC3 pcb is based on the founders edition cards. Could be wrong. I took that card apart many times to apply paste and pads. It never skipped a beat, it is a tank. Only issue is that it has 2 x 8 pin connectors so max about 390W. I upgraded to the FTW3 because it has 3 x 8 pin connectors so it has a higher power delivery. You can push this card to about 520 W without issue, I've done it on air cooling.
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Re: RTX 3090 EVGA FTW 3 - Ekwb Waterblock install - Not booting
2021/05/09 21:42:35
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So I took my card apart this weekend, tried the kapton tape solution. Card is working like a dream and humming along at 24 degrees idle, 52 at full load.
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Re: RTX 3090 EVGA FTW 3 - Ekwb Waterblock install - Not booting
2021/05/10 15:04:44
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My card is due back tomorrow from RMA, i'm going to run it on air for a couple weeks, in the mean time i've signed up for the Hydro copper, and I may try to score a 3090FTW3 from Micro Center, this is the 1st time ever I have felt uneasy about modding a VC.
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Re: RTX 3090 EVGA FTW 3 - Ekwb Waterblock install - Not booting
2021/05/10 16:04:38
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My card is due back tomorrow from RMA, i'm going to run it on air for a couple weeks, in the mean time i've signed up for the Hydro copper, and I may try to score a 3090FTW3 from Micro Center, this is the 1st time ever I have felt uneasy about modding a VC.
I would advise to do it again, but to use the Kapton tape others have tried. You know it wasn't you, but there has to be something else there that is contributing to the issue. I know it would be a lot to ask, but I wish EVGA would have changed out the power regulator chips from the analog to the digital ones for high draw boards like the 3090s and maybe the 3080ftw3s. While we can speculate all we want about what is causing the issues 3090s are facing, it would give me peace of mind knowing that was one less possible point of failure. Another thing is when re-assembling the block not to torque down the pcb too much and to check for the pcb bending/flexing. Others have used the kapton tape to help prevent shorting which is something I would look into if I was using a EK water block. You have done the water blocks before, so I would think you are comfortable doing the work. I am waiting on my Optimus block for my 3090. Once that gets in, i will be doing my conversion. With the Optimus, the whole back side of the pcb is covered by thermal tape, if it wasn't, I would be strongly considering the Kapton tape also. I am order some just in case if there are areas of concern I have it on hand. I am currently also running my 3090 on air watching the power draw between the 3 sets of cables and the PCI-E slot to see if there are any issues popping up. Makes me kinda a paranoid looking at the readings after a gaming session which is something I never felt the need to do before. But like you, I'd rather find out before I water block the card that something isn't right rather than find out after. Good luck bro in whatever you decide.
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Re: RTX 3090 EVGA FTW 3 - Ekwb Waterblock install - Not booting
2021/05/11 08:40:39
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I agree, give the Kapton tape a try, I seriously doubt anyone on this thread who went through the trouble of building a watercooled rig is going to be happy watching their card spin up fans.
We do this because we nerd hard on performance, I have faith everyone in here will at some point get their card to work.
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Re: RTX 3090 EVGA FTW 3 - Ekwb Waterblock install - Not booting
2021/05/11 12:37:20
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You guys are right, I ordered Kapton tape and more thermal pads, Thermal Grizzly is expensive daum. I got the replacement card today, I got a red lipped card. Going to run it a week on air and make sure all is good. 
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Re: RTX 3090 EVGA FTW 3 - Ekwb Waterblock install - Not booting
2021/05/11 22:01:23
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Yikes. I have a EK-Quantum Vector FTW3 RTX and EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 ULTRA GAMING coming tomorrow. This thread terrifies me. Founds like I need to ditch the EK block?
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Re: RTX 3090 EVGA FTW 3 - Ekwb Waterblock install - Not booting
2021/05/11 22:17:03
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SpaceGhhost,
You would think that EVGA would have atleast gotten rid of the red lips on your RMA cards. All good though since ones you are done testing the card the air rad is coming off anyway.
I wasn't the one who brought up the Kapton tape, but it makes a lot of sense and couldn't hurt.
Hoping for the best for you.
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Re: RTX 3090 EVGA FTW 3 - Ekwb Waterblock install - Not booting
2021/05/12 01:50:36
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Re: RTX 3090 EVGA FTW 3 - Ekwb Waterblock install - Not booting
2021/05/12 02:27:04
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Otherwise, is there only the FTW3 which are affected by this problem?
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Re: RTX 3090 EVGA FTW 3 - Ekwb Waterblock install - Not booting
2021/05/12 09:37:03
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Pthomson
Yikes. I have a EK-Quantum Vector FTW3 RTX and EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 ULTRA GAMING coming tomorrow. This thread terrifies me. Founds like I need to ditch the EK block?
I'm not going to install the EK backplate, i think thats where the issue is myself. idk, never had a card fail like this. I almost want to take the card apart and put it back together with the stock heat sink just to make sure it wasn't damaged in disassembly if it were to brick the 2nd card. The only ones I've heard that it was or could have been damaged in disassembly is from EK and I believe they are lurking and saying it in this thread also. so i dont know what to believe. Honestly if i could get a AlphaCool block, id do it, but still hesitant about any custom backplate
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Re: RTX 3090 EVGA FTW 3 - Ekwb Waterblock install - Not booting
2021/05/12 10:22:32
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The 3090FTW3 just seems like there is more failures than normal. There is another thread about the load balancing of power between the three sets of cables and the PCI-E slot which causes failures for non-water blocked cards. I think there was some mention of manufacturer tolerances which were a little larger which may of contributed to issues with the PCB. Then you add the water block issues which have not yet been clearly identified though there has been some good work by posters on this thread about what could be causing issues. It's just really hard to pinpoint the issue because of the differences in failures and installations. Do your research and if you haven't converted a card before, watch a ton of videos from a variety of installers to gain a measure of comfort before you install the water block on your card. Also, I would test your card on air first if possible for a period of time to make sure it's working before you do the water block install. Make sure you have the proper tools before you start the build, watching the videos can also help you make sure you have the right tools for the job and if you are unsure I would highly recommend getting some extra thermal pads to have just in case you need to redo the install due to issues with the mounting. I would order some no matter what since you will need to have some for the air rad you took off so that if something happens you can reassemble it and send it back in. Most importantly, keep all your parts from your air radiator that are not used by the water block in a bag and place the radiator and those parts back in the GPU box for storage. If you have any warranty issues with the card, you will need to return the card to stock configuration and send it back in. If you don't have the parts, I don't think they will rma your card. One more thing is since you bought the 3090 which should give you head room, I would look at the extended warranty (30 bucks for 5 years/60 bucks for 10 years) and if the option for cross ship is available to you and is affordable I would consider that as well. The cross ship will allow EVGA to ship you a replacement card immediately after your rma is accepted and you provide a credit card info for them to put a hold on for the value of the card you are sending in. In addition, the cross ship option has another plus that EVGA provides the ship back label so you don't have to pay the shipping charges back to EVGA. I don't have that option, but from what I read I would have wanted that.
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Re: RTX 3090 EVGA FTW 3 - Ekwb Waterblock install - Not booting
2021/05/12 16:27:37
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When I take my air cooler apart, I just mount the shroud back onto the cooler. No need to bag up the screws. They are ready to go when or if I need to sell or rma.
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Re: RTX 3090 EVGA FTW 3 - Ekwb Waterblock install - Not booting
2021/05/12 16:46:45
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Re: RTX 3090 EVGA FTW 3 - Ekwb Waterblock install - Not booting
2021/05/12 18:29:00
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When I take my air cooler apart, I just mount the shroud back onto the cooler. No need to bag up the screws. They are ready to go when or if I need to sell or rma.
^^^ This....I even put all the screws in there original spot on the air cooler and wrap the whole issue with plastic wrap, then back into the original box......Ive dont this with several Cards now...when selling, put it back together and test thoroughly...
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Re: RTX 3090 EVGA FTW 3 - Ekwb Waterblock install - Not booting
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Re: RTX 3090 EVGA FTW 3 - Ekwb Waterblock install - Not booting
2021/05/13 08:36:14
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RJ your shiz wind up working?
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Re: RTX 3090 EVGA FTW 3 - Ekwb Waterblock install - Not booting
2021/05/13 15:44:29
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Pthomson
Yikes. I have a EK-Quantum Vector FTW3 RTX and EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 ULTRA GAMING coming tomorrow. This thread terrifies me. Founds like I need to ditch the EK block?
I'm not going to install the EK backplate, i think thats where the issue is myself. idk, never had a card fail like this. I almost want to take the card apart and put it back together with the stock heat sink just to make sure it wasn't damaged in disassembly if it were to brick the 2nd card. The only ones I've heard that it was or could have been damaged in disassembly is from EK and I believe they are lurking and saying it in this thread also. so i dont know what to believe.
Honestly if i could get a AlphaCool block, id do it, but still hesitant about any custom backplate
I have both the EK and Alphacool blocks coming. I sent a note to both EK and EVGA and this is what I got back: EK Support
Hello
Many reports have been received and also investigated by pulling those blocks back and testing them. All were working fine on our GPU with not a single issue. Another thing to note is that we have many reports of the users using the same block on the RMA-ed gpu and again with no issues.
Best regards,
EVGA Support
Hi,
Unfortunately we do not have any info or updates for 3rd party coolers and you would need to contact EK for this. We have not had any changes to our cards for production of them. I apologzie for any inconvenience.
Regards,
EVGA
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Re: RTX 3090 EVGA FTW 3 - Ekwb Waterblock install - Not booting
2021/05/13 16:06:27
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Wanted to add myself in here too, I also have the dreaded VGA BIOS Load error on my new EVGA 3090 FTW3 with an EK wb. The error is completely random at this point, I've ran an entire day without running into any errors, and then hit non-stop BSODs and boot fails. The card worked fine for months beforehand on air cooling, so definitely seems to point to an issue with the EK block. Same as many users on here, I have been watercooling GPUs for many many years and never had an issue like this before. Temps are all solid, well under 50 C even stress testing and heavy load, I have a totally custom loop inside a Corsair 1000D case. Haven't had time to rip it apart and go back to air cooling to see if it still functions, but will do that soon. Ensured MB and GPU bioses are fully updated, all latest drivers, etc. Definitely seems to be a systematic problem after reading through this entire forum, really frustrating :(
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Re: RTX 3090 EVGA FTW 3 - Ekwb Waterblock install - Not booting
2021/05/13 17:54:26
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Trigmaster15
Wanted to add myself in here too, I also have the dreaded VGA BIOS Load error on my new EVGA 3090 FTW3 with an EK wb. The error is completely random at this point, I've ran an entire day without running into any errors, and then hit non-stop BSODs and boot fails. The card worked fine for months beforehand on air cooling, so definitely seems to point to an issue with the EK block. Same as many users on here, I have been watercooling GPUs for many many years and never had an issue like this before. Temps are all solid, well under 50 C even stress testing and heavy load, I have a totally custom loop inside a Corsair 1000D case. Haven't had time to rip it apart and go back to air cooling to see if it still functions, but will do that soon. Ensured MB and GPU bioses are fully updated, all latest drivers, etc. Definitely seems to be a systematic problem after reading through this entire forum, really frustrating :(
Oh man, sorry to hear that. Apparently it's not an issue according to EK, but I'm going to try the alphacool block first
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Re: RTX 3090 EVGA FTW 3 - Ekwb Waterblock install - Not booting
2021/05/13 18:26:19
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Trigmaster15
Wanted to add myself in here too, I also have the dreaded VGA BIOS Load error on my new EVGA 3090 FTW3 with an EK wb. The error is completely random at this point, I've ran an entire day without running into any errors, and then hit non-stop BSODs and boot fails. The card worked fine for months beforehand on air cooling, so definitely seems to point to an issue with the EK block. Same as many users on here, I have been watercooling GPUs for many many years and never had an issue like this before. Temps are all solid, well under 50 C even stress testing and heavy load, I have a totally custom loop inside a Corsair 1000D case. Haven't had time to rip it apart and go back to air cooling to see if it still functions, but will do that soon. Ensured MB and GPU bioses are fully updated, all latest drivers, etc. Definitely seems to be a systematic problem after reading through this entire forum, really frustrating :(
Oh man, sorry to hear that. Apparently it's not an issue according to EK, but I'm going to try the alphacool block first
I had the alphacool block on my 3080 ftw3 (same block), was very well made and packaged. No issues installing.
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Re: RTX 3090 EVGA FTW 3 - Ekwb Waterblock install - Not booting
2021/05/13 23:57:24
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Finally finished my build after acquiring all the parts, add me to the list of people with a failed EVGA 3090 after installing an EKWB. I got the error code b2, after cmos reset, started getting error code 97. Mobo is ASUS ROG Crossair VIII Impact. It's too late to empty the loop and disassemble, reinstall stock cooler and submit rma. But am somewhat glad I found this forum to know that I am not alone.
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Re: RTX 3090 EVGA FTW 3 - Ekwb Waterblock install - Not booting
2021/05/14 00:32:51
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I would recommend you either try the kapton tape that others have used, or check your mount to see if you can tell if the board is warped or if there any any components touching areas of the backplate that are unprotected from shorting. Sorry to hear your gpu bricked, but there is a lot of info you can try to see if it helps. Short starts should be able to be run without the loop filled, but be sure to disconnect power to the pump so you don't damage the pump. Let us know if you are able to resolve.
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Re: RTX 3090 EVGA FTW 3 - Ekwb Waterblock install - Not booting
2021/05/14 01:28:01
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Removing and replacing the thermal pads can, in principle, interrupt the electrical contact between the PCB and chips that are surface-mounted on it. This will happen particularly easily if any contacts happen to be cold-soldered.
When pulling the thermal pad off, you subject all the contacts holding the chip to a tearing (and uneven) force. The first time this happens is, unfortunately, when removing the backplate and/or the heatsink. At that moment, you have the least control of what is happening with the contacts as they are all hidden behind the object that you are trying to remove. This "tearing apart" would not happen at the factory as they work in the other direction - they assemble the card, and at worst, would subject the contacts to a squeezing (rather than tearing) force. Unlike the tearing force (tension) which has no natural limit on the amount of displacement of connected parts, the squeezing (compressive) force does have a natural limit - at most, the chip will be pressed into the PCB.
Can anything be done to ease the tearing stress on the contacts? I would suggest to use heat. Work in a warm room, and use a stream of hot air from the hair dryer directed onto the backplate / heatsink. Pre-warm the card to as high temperature as safely possible (run a heavy computational + graphics job) before hibernating the computer. The moment the computer is hibernated, the card fan will stop cooling it. Once the card is hot, the pads will lose their adhesive strength.
The second moment you will subject the chip to the tearing force is when removing the pad itself from the chip. That procedure is much easier to control as the surface of the chip is (nearly) exposed. You can use a flat object lightly pressing onto the chip just next to the place that you are trying to remove the thermal pad from. Again, hot air and warm room are your friends.
A card that had its chips inadvertently torn / partially torn off PCB may be recovered by baking it under a stream of hot air at a controlled temperature (reflow soldering). However, in the worst case, not only some of the contacts between the chip and PCB will be broken, but also the leads on the chip will be unevenly distorted, or even torn away. Salvaging a card under these conditions is an extremely difficult task, as you would need to perfectly line up all the leads under a microscope. If any leads got torn off, card recovery may only be successful by replacing the damaged chip.
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Re: RTX 3090 EVGA FTW 3 - Ekwb Waterblock install - Not booting
2021/05/14 06:32:01
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I ordered a AlphaCool block/backplate last night. I just don't trust this EK block/backplate. I don't want to have to rma a 2nd 3090, my whole rig is 4k, Predator 4k 120hz, HP Reverb G2, I was lucky enough my step son came over for a week and lent me his 3080 while he was here.
I think this weekend, i'm going to get my 3090 mounted vertical, and make sure it works with the riser/extension cable, before doing the block install.
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Re: RTX 3090 EVGA FTW 3 - Ekwb Waterblock install - Not booting
2021/05/14 10:04:04
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SpaceGhhostC2C
I ordered a AlphaCool block/backplate last night. I just don't trust this EK block/backplate. I don't want to have to rma a 2nd 3090, my whole rig is 4k, Predator 4k 120hz, HP Reverb G2, I was lucky enough my step son came over for a week and lent me his 3080 while he was here.
I think this weekend, i'm going to get my 3090 mounted vertical, and make sure it works with the riser/extension cable, before doing the block install.
Optimus posted that they had blemish kits on twitter this morning. That should mean they have kits ready to go if you are interested. I'm thinking of ordering another kit for my son. His doesn't have to be perfect and since I'm paying he wouldn't have a choice. Let us know how the alpha cool unit goes for you.
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Re: RTX 3090 EVGA FTW 3 - Ekwb Waterblock install - Not booting
2021/05/14 18:58:27
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Been running fine for the past few months. +120/ +800 Boosts steady 2115 Max Temps after 1/2 hr RDR2 or Cyberpunk 45c CPU at 5 Ghz These Cards vs older Gen cards really are massive n heavy.... I supported one end getting creative with a zap tie around PCI-E cables and Bits Power fitting coming off my pump / rez...   
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