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Re:My 7' Tall Evaporative Water Cooling Tower
2010/01/26 10:49:18
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can't see the pic (at work) can you attach it here?
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Re:My 7' Tall Evaporative Water Cooling Tower
2010/01/26 11:09:04
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str1d3r PhotoShop skillz arent gr8 but anyway, my thoughts (not always great) would be to keep the air moving rapidly without losing the vapors. A (or multiple) high velocity fan(s) with sealed motor would work provided there were baffles upstream to collect large droplets. Just a thought and what I will be starting soon. will be leaving the "to/from loop" out for awhile. The large tube shown could be finned copper/aluminum with air circ (at least something thin enough to disapate heat (not pvc)) Not to say it wont work but the fan is going the wrong direction and would be pushing the water instead of against it , therefor not evaporating as much??? One more thing is your going to want a cold air intake somewhere under the fan if you do it that way.
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Re:My 7' Tall Evaporative Water Cooling Tower
2010/01/26 11:38:12
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I would agree and thought about changing of fan direction to add turbulance. The thought behind this pic is more inline of the atomization of feul oil as in a oil combustion unit. Fine spray and high velocity air. in addition, on the front of an oil burner is a nose cone (fixed fan blade) that adds a circular swirl to the in comming air and fuel thus atomizing further. As for the Cold air intake, Going for a closed loop system. Air is recirculated from the side pipe. It's all trial and error and easily switched and or scrapped anyway and probably why my garage looks like a home depot section. Anytime I find myself needing 1 of any small part, I toss 10 in the basket for just an occasion. nateman_doo can't see the pic (at work) can you attach it here? Would have thought the image hosting would work better. attatched :) Here is a pic of sim Electric Ducted Fan jets I have in mind for use. loud yes but, would place the unit in the mechanical room. http://www.rc-airplane-world.com/rc-jets.html (mine are electric with sealed motors but riiiiiiiiiiip!!!! all the same)
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Re:My 7' Tall Evaporative Water Cooling Tower
2010/01/26 13:13:50
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@str1d3r Another question about a closed loop. Dosen't the evaporated water need to go somewhere? Not sure, really never seen anyone with parts like that lying around.
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Re:My 7' Tall Evaporative Water Cooling Tower
2010/01/26 13:15:59
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A hardware room? I tried talking my wife into turning the spare bedroom into a hardware room, she wasnt having it. Cant wait to see what you get set up.
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Re:My 7' Tall Evaporative Water Cooling Tower
2010/01/26 13:24:35
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The mechanical room is opposite my home office boiler, water heater, Air circulating equipment, etc etc evaporated water would collect and condense into liquid state over and over its in the evaporated state that it is most susceptible to temp change and where (not yet drawn in pic) a heat exchanger of sorts will be. may sound like a Rube Golderg idea but is why I think something other than pvc should be used. (A large diam copper or aluminum chamber with fins and circulated air)
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Re:My 7' Tall Evaporative Water Cooling Tower
2010/01/26 13:28:25
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Wow sounds like a hell of an idea. I can see I am out of my league here LOL. Cant wait to see what you come up with.
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Re:My 7' Tall Evaporative Water Cooling Tower
2010/01/26 13:32:06
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reggiesanchez @str1d3r Another question about a closed loop. Dosen't the evaporated water need to go somewhere? Not sure, really never seen anyone with parts like that lying around. If the loop is configured to allow evaporated water to rise above water level, then the placement of a trap to catch the evaporated water at the highest point will then allow evapoated water to condensate/cool and run back down into the resivoire. That's what my original design show early on in this thread.
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Re:My 7' Tall Evaporative Water Cooling Tower
2010/01/26 13:36:41
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Trap/Baffles same concept stared long and hard at this drawing (me likes it) http://forums.evga.com/fb.ashx?m=128696 and it is what motivated me to try and achieve a closed loop version. off to the garage for some days to impliment this concept. will post results, I dont want to hijack this thread. ps If the walls blow down my wife will tell me that we need an apartment (no more mech room for me)
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Re:My 7' Tall Evaporative Water Cooling Tower
2010/01/26 17:40:25
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 Shock, I looked at your drawing again and realized it has the same principle as an idea I had earlier today while trying to think of a way to reduce the size of this contraption and also cut down on humidity. I attempted to draw a picture in "Paint" using my Razer Lachesis. I don't recommend that. Basically, it is a box with the water coming in at the rear top, with a fan hitting it and blowing it across a tilted false floor or shelf. The water then goes down a screen type thingy down to the reservoir. A second fan on the other side of the box would blow across the screen further cooling and evaporating the water. Above all is a raised area, also tilted, where condensed, cooled, water could also run down a second screen to the res. The second fan would also hit that water.
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Re:My 7' Tall Evaporative Water Cooling Tower
2010/01/26 20:12:51
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str1d3r will post results, I dont want to hijack this thread. ps If the walls blow down my wife will tell me that we need an apartment (no more mech room for me) no such thing as hijacking any of my threads?? :) you can post them here! This could be the bong thread or something.
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Re:My 7' Tall Evaporative Water Cooling Tower
2010/01/26 20:15:15
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cade121 Your MS Paint-Foo needs some work. I think I like the idea.. but hard to see what your getting at. If water runs down a screen, it would defiantly be cooling during the process if a low cfm fan was to blow on it. If a high CFM fan was blowing, it would probably blow right off the screen.
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Re:My 7' Tall Evaporative Water Cooling Tower
2010/01/26 20:35:22
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nateman_doo no such thing as hijacking any of my threads?? :) you can post them here! This could be the bong thread or something. Awesome, some people are a bit touchy about that in some other forums. interesting idea with the tilted screens.
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Re:My 7' Tall Evaporative Water Cooling Tower
2010/01/26 20:59:49
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Wait a minute. I thought we weren't suppose to discuss anything to do with religion around here. A bong is a religious tool much like the cross. If you don't believe me then what does this look like? *Removed* I'm willing to bet she see's god when she gets finshed with that bowl. Edit by Jedi: Let's not go there, ok? Pretty obvious TOS violation. Only warning to you guys that more posts/pics of that nature will earn warnings.
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Re:My 7' Tall Evaporative Water Cooling Tower
2010/01/26 22:27:57
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Far Out Monkey Man. What about an aerator nozzel similar to a faucet or an inverted swirling sprinkle or even a little cascading action inside the tube? and no I didn't have a hit with that Nun.
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Re:My 7' Tall Evaporative Water Cooling Tower
2010/01/27 03:07:43
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aww man?! Nordic ruins all the funnnn heh.
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Re:My 7' Tall Evaporative Water Cooling Tower
2010/01/27 07:47:46
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Uh oh. Did I go where I wasn't suppose to go?
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Re:My 7' Tall Evaporative Water Cooling Tower
2010/01/27 08:06:39
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Edited the title of original post. Don't want to attract any 'unwanted' attention. You guys can post all day long here. lol @ cave drawings btw. you must work on your MSPaint-fu.
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Re:My 7' Tall Evaporative Water Cooling Tower
2010/01/27 10:32:43
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cade121 About, the fans, yeah I was thinking about a 140mm fan turning slow for the second fan. Just wondering if the whole thing would gradually heat up unless the box was acting as a heatsink. That is if it was more or less sealed. I don't think it can be sealed. I think you would have to place an air escape hole in there somewhere (probably under the tilted slide and above the water pool would be the best place since it would not allow as much evaporation to escape [the hot condensing air would be trapped in the top and couldn't escape]). But you will definately need an air escape somewhere. As you have it drawn now, both fans are blowing inwards and without any where for their air to blow, they would just spin and not move any air at all. EDIT: Changed the title.
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Re:My 7' Tall Evaporative Water Cooling Tower
2010/01/27 11:36:34
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ty_ger07 cade121 About, the fans, yeah I was thinking about a 140mm fan turning slow for the second fan. Just wondering if the whole thing would gradually heat up unless the box was acting as a heatsink. That is if it was more or less sealed. I don't think it can be sealed. I think you would have to place an air escape hole in there somewhere (probably under the tilted slide and above the water pool would be the best place since it would not allow as much evaporation to escape [the hot condensing air would be trapped in the top and couldn't escape]). But you will definately need an air escape somewhere. As you have it drawn now, both fans are blowing inwards and without any where for their air to blow, they would just spin and not move any air at all. EDIT: Changed the title. I can't believe you don't like my cave logic. JK, excellent point though. Surely my subconcious was telling of that fallacy. I hope, lol. So, maybe let the exhaust blow through a sponge and catch the water vapor and rechannel it to the res? I don't know, any other ideas of how downsizing could be accomplished? I am still gonna do the "tower", only thing left is to extend the fan cables and wait for hose to arrive. Already got shower head rigged up and ready to attach to hose. Also ordered a Promliatech backplate for my Apogee XT.
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Re:My 7' Tall Evaporative Water Cooling Tower
2010/01/27 20:07:31
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Maybe a dryer sheet to catch the mist... maybe a screen... I am sure there are a few things that could be used. I bought some dryer duct to try out some theory's, its pretty easy to work with as opposed to PVC pipe. I would suggest those of you wanting to experiment... go that route first, its the easiest to work with. If you get good results, then finalize it with PVC.
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Re:My 7' Tall Evaporative Water Cooling Tower
2010/01/28 12:14:47
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How is this for MS Paint-fu: Air is directed in as normal, but the only difference is metal type dryer duct hosing. Hopefully the moist warm air will condense on the metal and collect at the bottom, then it a drain hose could go directly into the reservoir and it would collect the majority of the moisture. Opinions?
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Re:My 7' Tall Evaporative Water Cooling Tower
2010/01/28 12:19:20
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Man. Looks like I started a revolution in design for Evaporator cooling huh?
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Re:My 7' tall Evaporative Cooler
2010/01/28 12:33:17
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 Opinions? Only thing I know for sure. If I EVER started building something like that in my computer room, my wife would for certain bounce something off the back of my head! LOL, You guys are REALLY getting bored?
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Re:My 7' tall Evaporative Cooler
2010/01/28 12:34:18
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That looks purdy dern neat nate I'm wondering if that final stand pipe should have an increased diameter to decrease air velocity allowing more moisture to collect without being exhausted.
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Re:My 7' tall Evaporative Cooler
2010/01/28 12:56:00
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One thing that also may help with the capture of condensation is to take the dryer hose and spiral it up. This will expose more surface area and will slow the air flow enough to allow more condesation to form and drain off.
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Re:My 7' tall Evaporative Cooler
2010/01/28 18:13:12
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true. Dryer hose is not expensive, but I finally got another Swiftech mcp 655. it works like a charm. Now I can turn on the bong... I mean the tower cooler, by the PC. I ran a speaker wire and made a molex connector and put that on the end. I also made some "improvements" which I will post some pictures shortly
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