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2020/09/25 18:10:02 (permalink)
Hi all,
 
Recently there has been some discussion about the EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 series.
 
During our mass production QC testing we discovered a full 6 POSCAPs solution cannot pass the real world applications testing. It took almost a week of R&D effort to find the cause and reduce the POSCAPs to 4 and add 20 MLCC caps prior to shipping production boards, this is why the EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 FTW3 series was delayed at launch. There were no 6 POSCAP production EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 FTW3 boards shipped.
 
But, due to the time crunch, some of the reviewers were sent a pre-production version with 6 POSCAP’s, we are working with those reviewers directly to replace their boards with production versions.
EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 XC3 series with 5 POSCAPs + 10 MLCC solution is matched with the XC3 spec without issues.
 
Also note that we have updated the product pictures at EVGA.com to reflect the production components that shipped to gamers and enthusiasts since day 1 of product launch.
Once you receive the card you can compare for yourself, EVGA stands behind its products!
 
Thanks
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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs 2020/09/25 18:11:02 (permalink)
Boom!!!
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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs 2020/09/25 18:12:35 (permalink)
Why not ALL MLCC like Asus though?

https://youtu.be/x6bUUEEe-X8

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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs 2020/09/25 18:13:39 (permalink)
Nicely done Mr Freeman
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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs 2020/09/25 18:14:16 (permalink)
Thanks for the quick & concise update, should clear the whole situation up.


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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs 2020/09/25 18:14:25 (permalink)
Good to hear!
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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs 2020/09/25 18:14:26 (permalink)
Thanks for the clarification! 

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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs 2020/09/25 18:15:09 (permalink)
Thanks much Jacob! Really helpful information.
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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs 2020/09/25 18:15:12 (permalink)
Good enough for me 
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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs 2020/09/25 18:15:13 (permalink)
woo
Faith in humanity (or at least EVGA) restored!


 
 
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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs 2020/09/25 18:15:24 (permalink)
thanks jacob

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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs 2020/09/25 18:15:37 (permalink)
Thank you for your openness during this launch! 
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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs 2020/09/25 18:15:44 (permalink)
hi Jacob, thanks for the pretty quick decent statement, fantastic, that´s what we wanted to know!


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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs 2020/09/25 18:15:47 (permalink)
pbmpharmacist
Why not ALL MLCC like Asus though?



because it's unnecessary and you sacrifice bulk decoupling capacity.
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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs 2020/09/25 18:15:49 (permalink)
U guys knew about this issue weeks, if not months ago...and you are all coming out of the closet now...ONLY BECAUSE OF INDEPENDENT REPORTING. This is not how u build trust...
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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs 2020/09/25 18:16:07 (permalink)
 
Thanks for the update Jacob, as always.  
 





 
 
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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs 2020/09/25 18:16:35 (permalink)
Hey jacob... im a reviewer, just send me an invoice and ill pay for the replacement. 
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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs 2020/09/25 18:17:27 (permalink)
Maxidrom2002
U guys knew about this issue weeks, if not months ago...and you are all coming out of the closet now...ONLY BECAUSE OF INDEPENDENT REPORTING. This is not how u build trust...

Sometimes in house testing simply doesn't catch things that are discovered when hundreds of users get their hands on a product and start using. He literally said they fixed it before the cards ever went out to customers. What else do you want?
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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs 2020/09/25 18:17:53 (permalink)
What about 3090 cards? Same XC3 = 5+10 and FTW3 = 4+20?

Or maybe all 3090s are 4+20?

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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs 2020/09/25 18:18:06 (permalink)
Good to hear
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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs 2020/09/25 18:18:13 (permalink)
Do all variants of the 3080 FTW (Gaming, Ultra) have 4 POSCAPS wIth 20 MLCC setup? Or is it just the FTW Ultra?
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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs 2020/09/25 18:18:19 (permalink)
Maxidrom2002
U guys knew about this issue weeks, if not months ago...and you are all coming out of the closet now...ONLY BECAUSE OF INDEPENDENT REPORTING. This is not how u build trust...


Agree

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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs 2020/09/25 18:18:21 (permalink)

 
Well, time to move on

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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs 2020/09/25 18:18:22 (permalink)
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Why not ALL MLCC like Asus though?





Because that wouldn't necessarily be better. POSCAPS are great at thermal stability, MLCCs are not. there is also a voltage issue as frequency increases. It appears the 4+20 is the best option, even the nvidia design uses that setup.
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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs 2020/09/25 18:18:46 (permalink)
According to some people on reddit: 
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MLCCs also lose capacitance with age, while tantalums do not age.

2 points· 

I think an additional key part to note here is that polymer caps and mlcc’s provide charge sources for separate frequency ranges of your power delivery network. 
 
So basically you get the cards with 6 MLCCs if you really love paying the ROG tax every year
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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs 2020/09/25 18:19:07 (permalink)
Thanks for providing some information on this topic! Makes me feel better about missing out on a launch-day card.
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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs 2020/09/25 18:19:08 (permalink)
Thank christ.

 
 
 

 


 

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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs 2020/09/25 18:19:24 (permalink)
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Why not ALL MLCC like Asus though?





Because that wouldn't necessarily be better. POSCAPS are great at thermal stability, MLCCs are not. there is also a voltage issue as frequency increases. It appears the 4+20 is the best option, even the nvidia design uses that setup.


Jay seems to think it's better. I don't know.

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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs 2020/09/25 18:19:38 (permalink)
Jacob, thank you for this information. Was just seeing the news about other 30 series cards and got a little worried. As always, EVGA is reinforcing why I choose your products!
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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs 2020/09/25 18:20:04 (permalink)
LOL.  Told you so.
 
Edit: so it sounds like they had to swap them out at the factory in Asia, not stateside.  But I was correct in that it is what caused the delay.
post edited by kevinc313 - 2020/09/25 18:22:32
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