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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs 2020/09/25 18:32:31 (permalink)
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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs 2020/09/25 18:34:17 (permalink)
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U guys knew about this issue weeks, if not months ago...and you are all coming out of the closet now...ONLY BECAUSE OF INDEPENDENT REPORTING. This is not how u build trust...


Their cards don't have the issue.. nothing to come clean about. They aren't involved in other cards manufacturing


Really...XC3s with only one MLCC isnt an issue?

probably runs fine within specs --> same like FE or slightly below


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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs 2020/09/25 18:34:21 (permalink)
Thanks for the fast answer and valuable information!
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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs 2020/09/25 18:34:50 (permalink)
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U guys knew about this issue weeks, if not months ago...and you are all coming out of the closet now...ONLY BECAUSE OF INDEPENDENT REPORTING. This is not how u build trust...


Agree

Because none of the EVGA retail cards have issues...absolutely no reason whatsoever to make a statement on an unreleased product where the issue was discovered and fixed before release.  

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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs 2020/09/25 18:35:05 (permalink)
THIS IS WHAY EVGA IS THE BEST  !!!! I love you guys ! 
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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs 2020/09/25 18:35:17 (permalink)
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U guys knew about this issue weeks, if not months ago...and you are all coming out of the closet now...ONLY BECAUSE OF INDEPENDENT REPORTING. This is not how u build trust...


Their cards don't have the issue.. nothing to come clean about. They aren't involved in other cards manufacturing



Yup, apparently some people have reading comprehension issues. 


Apparently u need to do some more independent research...read some things..look at some content. I recommend starting with Igor's lab to become just a little more educated.
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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs 2020/09/25 18:37:00 (permalink)
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U guys knew about this issue weeks, if not months ago...and you are all coming out of the closet now...ONLY BECAUSE OF INDEPENDENT REPORTING. This is not how u build trust...


Agree

Because none of the EVGA retail cards have issues...absolutely no reason whatsoever to make a statement on an unreleased product where the issue was discovered and fixed before release.  


Thats a bold statement cotton, lets see if thats gonna work out for ya...
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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs 2020/09/25 18:38:14 (permalink)
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U guys knew about this issue weeks, if not months ago...and you are all coming out of the closet now...ONLY BECAUSE OF INDEPENDENT REPORTING. This is not how u build trust...


Their cards don't have the issue.. nothing to come clean about. They aren't involved in other cards manufacturing


Really...XC3s with only one MLCC isnt an issue?

probably runs fine within specs --> same like FE or slightly below


Why, yes...it will run fine at spec, which is 1710mhz. While everyone who did it right will be pushing 1950+
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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs 2020/09/25 18:38:32 (permalink)
I'm glad this was caught before cards were shipped out to everyone.
 
I don't understand why some people are saying this doesn't build trust? If the cards with the potentially bad setup were shipped out and EVGA didn't say anything, then it's fair to be upset. They fixed the issue BEFORE shipping them out. Were they supposed to apologize for cards they didn't send out???
 
Also, I think this is catching a bit too much fire/attention. Igor did some fantastic work in finding a potential cause of issues, but I think Jay's video is pouring gasoline on this whole crazy release and he's enjoying the attention. 
 
Not saying that EVGA cards are 100% in the clear yet, but I think everyone needs to take a deep breath and calm down for a minute.
 
 
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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs 2020/09/25 18:39:14 (permalink)
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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs 2020/09/25 18:39:30 (permalink)
Jacob called Steve on the GN live stream.  Mad Lad.
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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs 2020/09/25 18:39:51 (permalink)
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U guys knew about this issue weeks, if not months ago...and you are all coming out of the closet now...ONLY BECAUSE OF INDEPENDENT REPORTING. This is not how u build trust...


Agree

Because none of the EVGA retail cards have issues...absolutely no reason whatsoever to make a statement on an unreleased product where the issue was discovered and fixed before release.  


Thats a bold statement cotton, lets see if thats gonna work out for ya...

The "bold" statement is what an EVGA brand director stated in this thread about the retail release.  Review cards may have them, which are being swapped bout, but NO retail cards.  EVGA has made that statement. If they lied about that, there will be repercussions on their brand, which I don't think anyone in the company would risk.  

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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs 2020/09/25 18:40:40 (permalink)
On evga.com I still can see 6 POSCAPs in the picture of EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 FTW3 ULTRA GAMING version, so it also has 4 POSCAPs 20 MLCC right? And you will update the picture ?
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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs 2020/09/25 18:41:37 (permalink)
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I'm glad this was caught before cards were shipped out to everyone.
 
I don't understand why some people are saying this doesn't build trust? If the cards with the potentially bad setup were shipped out and EVGA didn't say anything, then it's fair to be upset. They fixed the issue BEFORE shipping them out. Were they supposed to apologize for cards they didn't send out???
 
Also, I think this is catching a bit too much fire/attention. Igor did some fantastic work in finding a potential cause of issues, but I think Jay's video is pouring gasoline on this whole crazy release and he's enjoying the attention. 
 
 


Hey, plz become educated. They/Jacob only mentions FTW3 card...how it has 2MLCCs...which is same as FE version...

At the end he is like...oh, and BTW, XC3s have 1 MLCC...but thats no issue...they will run just fine...

Um...no, there will be left performance on the table...because of early on decisions.
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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs 2020/09/25 18:43:03 (permalink)
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I'm glad this was caught before cards were shipped out to everyone.
 
I don't understand why some people are saying this doesn't build trust? If the cards with the potentially bad setup were shipped out and EVGA didn't say anything, then it's fair to be upset. They fixed the issue BEFORE shipping them out. Were they supposed to apologize for cards they didn't send out???
 
Also, I think this is catching a bit too much fire/attention. Igor did some fantastic work in finding a potential cause of issues, but I think Jay's video is pouring gasoline on this whole crazy release and he's enjoying the attention. 
 
Not saying that EVGA cards are 100% in the clear yet, but I think everyone needs to take a deep breath and calm down for a minute.
 
 


tbf Igor probably got the POSTCAP thing confirmed by a graphics card supplier, he has some sources and probably would not just speculate based on the design. He does use to back things up....


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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs 2020/09/25 18:43:18 (permalink)
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I'm glad this was caught before cards were shipped out to everyone.
 
I don't understand why some people are saying this doesn't build trust? If the cards with the potentially bad setup were shipped out and EVGA didn't say anything, then it's fair to be upset. They fixed the issue BEFORE shipping them out. Were they supposed to apologize for cards they didn't send out???
 
Also, I think this is catching a bit too much fire/attention. Igor did some fantastic work in finding a potential cause of issues, but I think Jay's video is pouring gasoline on this whole crazy release and he's enjoying the attention. 
 
 


Hey, plz become educated. They/Jacob only mentions FTW3 card...how it has 2MLCCs...which is same as FE version...

At the end he is like...oh, and BTW, XC3s have 1 MLCC...but thats no issue...they will run just fine...

Um...no, there will be left performance on the table...because of early on decisions.

Buy a higher SKU card if you want the best with the most OC potential. Thats literally nothing new. Lol
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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs 2020/09/25 18:43:35 (permalink)
Thank you Jackob for the update. 
 
This is the reason I only buy EVGA cards, keep up the great work EVGA.
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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs 2020/09/25 18:43:37 (permalink)
I rarely post but I've been a customer since the 8800GTS days. Every Nvidia GPU (Too many to remember) I've owned is from EVGA and this is exactly why. A+ Customer Service. Keep it up. Waiting patiently for the RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra 
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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs 2020/09/25 18:44:06 (permalink)
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U guys knew about this issue weeks, if not months ago...and you are all coming out of the closet now...ONLY BECAUSE OF INDEPENDENT REPORTING. This is not how u build trust...


Their cards don't have the issue.. nothing to come clean about. They aren't involved in other cards manufacturing


Really...XC3s with only one MLCC isnt an issue?

probably runs fine within specs --> same like FE or slightly below


Why, yes...it will run fine at spec, which is 1710mhz. While everyone who did it right will be pushing 1950+



The XC3s only have 2 8pins and have a lower power limit,etc as a result. Also 5x10 is the reference specification.  All 6x0 cards were deviations.  
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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs 2020/09/25 18:44:30 (permalink)
 
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U guys knew about this issue weeks, if not months ago...and you are all coming out of the closet now...ONLY BECAUSE OF INDEPENDENT REPORTING. This is not how u build trust...


Their cards don't have the issue.. nothing to come clean about. They aren't involved in other cards manufacturing



Yup, apparently some people have reading comprehension issues. 


Apparently u need to do some more independent research...read some things..look at some content. I recommend starting with Igor's lab to become just a little more educated.



I've seen all the videos, thanks champ.   Nobody is disputing that independent reporting broke the story.  We are disputing your claim that this in any way has affected EVGA customers who purchased their cards and therefore broken any "trust".  The only ones with problems were early models sent to REVIEWERS. Every AIB partner is only responsible for their cards, as Stickyboy46 stated.  There's no cover-up here and nothing to remedy.
 





 
 
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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs 2020/09/25 18:45:00 (permalink)
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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs 2020/09/25 18:45:47 (permalink)
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I'm glad this was caught before cards were shipped out to everyone.
 
I don't understand why some people are saying this doesn't build trust? If the cards with the potentially bad setup were shipped out and EVGA didn't say anything, then it's fair to be upset. They fixed the issue BEFORE shipping them out. Were they supposed to apologize for cards they didn't send out???
 
Also, I think this is catching a bit too much fire/attention. Igor did some fantastic work in finding a potential cause of issues, but I think Jay's video is pouring gasoline on this whole crazy release and he's enjoying the attention. 
 
 


Hey, plz become educated. They/Jacob only mentions FTW3 card...how it has 2MLCCs...which is same as FE version...

At the end he is like...oh, and BTW, XC3s have 1 MLCC...but thats no issue...they will run just fine...

Um...no, there will be left performance on the table...because of early on decisions.


Cards are barely ever sold as being able to OC to a certain desired point, they are sold to operate at the speed listed in the spec sheet. To blame a company for an already high TDP card not OCing far enough is ridiculous.

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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs 2020/09/25 18:45:51 (permalink)
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I'm glad this was caught before cards were shipped out to everyone.
 
I don't understand why some people are saying this doesn't build trust? If the cards with the potentially bad setup were shipped out and EVGA didn't say anything, then it's fair to be upset. They fixed the issue BEFORE shipping them out. Were they supposed to apologize for cards they didn't send out???
 
Also, I think this is catching a bit too much fire/attention. Igor did some fantastic work in finding a potential cause of issues, but I think Jay's video is pouring gasoline on this whole crazy release and he's enjoying the attention. 
 
 


Hey, plz become educated. They/Jacob only mentions FTW3 card...how it has 2MLCCs...which is same as FE version...

At the end he is like...oh, and BTW, XC3s have 1 MLCC...but thats no issue...they will run just fine...

Um...no, there will be left performance on the table...because of early on decisions.

Buy a higher SKU card if you want the best with the most OC potential. Thats literally nothing new. Lol



This, precisely.  Spend more money = get higher clocks and headroom.





 
 
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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs 2020/09/25 18:47:14 (permalink)
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U guys knew about this issue weeks, if not months ago...and you are all coming out of the closet now...ONLY BECAUSE OF INDEPENDENT REPORTING. This is not how u build trust...


Agree

Because none of the EVGA retail cards have issues...absolutely no reason whatsoever to make a statement on an unreleased product where the issue was discovered and fixed before release.  


Thats a bold statement cotton, lets see if thats gonna work out for ya...

The "bold" statement is what an EVGA brand director stated in this thread about the retail release.  Review cards may have them, which are being swapped bout, but NO retail cards.  EVGA has made that statement. If they lied about that, there will be repercussions on their brand, which I don't think anyone in the company would risk.  


I highly doubt anyone would straight up lie
..thats too damaging.

Its marketing deception. 2 points:
1. I wish they would explain early on WHY they didn't have card availability...and tell u the truth still don't.
2. They only address FTW...while XC3 gets left out for the most part. Jay already mentioned cards having problems with just one MLCC and will most likely also need to update v-bios to downclock.
post edited by Maxidrom2002 - 2020/09/25 18:51:10
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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs 2020/09/25 18:47:35 (permalink)
I appreciate the honesty and communication by evga, and the fact that they caught the issue in testing , but its unfortunate that evga and pretty much every other brand aside from asus chose to opt for the cheaper option when they could have used a full ceramic array while asus managed to do that, design a great cooler, a beefy vrm and still come in at msrp.  And to use only 1 mlcc array on the sc3 is disappointing, come on thats extreme penny pinching! 
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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs 2020/09/25 18:47:46 (permalink)
How does the XC3 ultra run ok with only 1 of the good squares, but the FTW3 with the same boost needs 2??  Somebody smart please answer.
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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs 2020/09/25 18:48:30 (permalink)
Yes thank you one of the reason I'm still a EVga customer
 


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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs 2020/09/25 18:49:15 (permalink)
This is cute and all but ASUS is shipping cards with 6 MLCC, which seems like the best solution. Why isn’t EVGA doing the same?

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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs 2020/09/25 18:50:00 (permalink)
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I'm glad this was caught before cards were shipped out to everyone.
 
I don't understand why some people are saying this doesn't build trust? If the cards with the potentially bad setup were shipped out and EVGA didn't say anything, then it's fair to be upset. They fixed the issue BEFORE shipping them out. Were they supposed to apologize for cards they didn't send out???
 
Also, I think this is catching a bit too much fire/attention. Igor did some fantastic work in finding a potential cause of issues, but I think Jay's video is pouring gasoline on this whole crazy release and he's enjoying the attention. 
 
 


Hey, plz become educated. They/Jacob only mentions FTW3 card...how it has 2MLCCs...which is same as FE version...

At the end he is like...oh, and BTW, XC3s have 1 MLCC...but thats no issue...they will run just fine...

Um...no, there will be left performance on the table...because of early on decisions.

Buy a higher SKU card if you want the best with the most OC potential. Thats literally nothing new. Lol


For 699 XC3 card...I AT LEAST would like to get EQUAL design quality/performance as the NVIDIA 699 FE card...

Would u not agree?
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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs 2020/09/25 18:50:06 (permalink)
Maxidrom2002

2. They only address FTW...while XC3 gets left out for the most part. Jay already mentioned cards having problems with just one MLCC and will most likely also need to update v-bios to downclock.


He said the ones with 0 MLCCs would likely need a v-bios update. He had another vendor call him already about it before he could review it and it turned out to have 6x0.
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