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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs 2020/09/25 18:20:20 (permalink)
Good news. Now, if only I can manage to buy one!
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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs 2020/09/25 18:21:28 (permalink)
If a much smaller company like colorful caught it in advance...no reason the likes of EVGA and MSI, etc shouldnt have. Nvidia provided minimum spec...these companies looked at it...and said oh. Thats a little expensive, lets save some cost...time...no one is gonna notice..it will be fine...and we can still charge msrp or over.

Yea...no.
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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs 2020/09/25 18:21:47 (permalink)
Cant wait to be able to game on a FTW3 3080 thank you for always communicating with the community. 
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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs 2020/09/25 18:22:24 (permalink)
Is this going to actually be a significant enough of a change however?  There have been numerous reports of other brands using the 4+20 layout that are having similar crashing problems, and even the supposed FE cards that "were not crashing" have been reported to be crashing as well.  So far, there's only one known card in the wild that doesn't use any of the cheaper POSCAPs, but instead opted for 60 MLCCs instead.
 
In the event that this doesn't actually solve the problem, there's either a) going to need to be a bios update that addresses the problem, which likely means it will just be undervolting the card, which also means any "overclocked" card premium you pay for is just throwing money away or b) a second hardware refresh where they use better components.
 
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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs 2020/09/25 18:23:01 (permalink)
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Cant wait to be able to game on a FTW3 3080 thank you for always communicating with the community. 

Same! I want a 3080 FTW3 so damn bad I can taste it. Yes, taste the plastic. And metal, etc...
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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs 2020/09/25 18:23:28 (permalink)
Maxidrom2002
U guys knew about this issue weeks, if not months ago...and you are all coming out of the closet now...ONLY BECAUSE OF INDEPENDENT REPORTING. This is not how u build trust...


Why would EVGA announce that they fixed it and it's not an issue? They're only clarifying why reviewers are seeing an issue.
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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs 2020/09/25 18:23:54 (permalink)
Maxidrom2002
If a much smaller company like colorful caught it in advance...no reason the likes of EVGA and MSI, etc shouldnt have. Nvidia provided minimum spec...these companies looked at it...and said oh. Thats a little expensive, lets save some cost...time...no one is gonna notice..it will be fine...and we can still charge msrp or over.

Yea...no.


Yeah I think that's what happened too

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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs 2020/09/25 18:24:21 (permalink)
Thank you now i can continue my F5 hunt FTW style, FAST
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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs 2020/09/25 18:25:22 (permalink)
Maxidrom2002
U guys knew about this issue weeks, if not months ago...and you are all coming out of the closet now...ONLY BECAUSE OF INDEPENDENT REPORTING. This is not how u build trust...


I mean, they didn't NEED to say anything - they didn't ship the bad units to anyone except reviewers. Did you even read the post? They only posted this because people were spreading bad information due to review units and the old store pictures. Now our worries are alleviated.
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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs 2020/09/25 18:25:28 (permalink)


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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs 2020/09/25 18:25:33 (permalink)
Great job! You guys rock
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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs 2020/09/25 18:25:33 (permalink)
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Why would EVGA announce that they fixed it and it's not an issue? They're only clarifying why reviewers are seeing an issue.


Maybe...just maybe...also the reason why this launch went bonkers...and no one said about that till now.

Literally thousands of people wasted hours of F5...think about lost productivity and increased bandwith...3rd order effects.
post edited by the_Scarlet_one - 2020/09/26 02:16:10
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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs 2020/09/25 18:25:52 (permalink)
Awesome ! Thanks for explaining it for us.
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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs 2020/09/25 18:27:00 (permalink)
Thanks for the update! You, sir, are a gentleman and a scholar.
 
 
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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs 2020/09/25 18:27:27 (permalink)
Thanks Jacob, great communication as always. That is one of the many reasons why I'll always come back to EVGA.
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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs 2020/09/25 18:27:32 (permalink)
I'm dumb.  How many of the good squares out of six does the XC3 Ultra have?
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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs 2020/09/25 18:27:34 (permalink)
If you report every issue that you find in R&D you would never have confident buyers. If they fixed it no reason to mention it unless asked.
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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs 2020/09/25 18:27:39 (permalink)
And this is why I love EVGA. I’ll wait patiently for my 3090... but if you guys wanna send me one.....

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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs 2020/09/25 18:28:12 (permalink)
W in the chat for Jacob.. FTW
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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs 2020/09/25 18:28:58 (permalink)
Maxidrom2002
U guys knew about this issue weeks, if not months ago...and you are all coming out of the closet now...ONLY BECAUSE OF INDEPENDENT REPORTING. This is not how u build trust...


Their cards don't have the issue.. nothing to come clean about. They aren't involved in other cards manufacturing

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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs 2020/09/25 18:29:07 (permalink)
Excellent Jacob!  Thanks for the moment of clarity.  Out!

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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs 2020/09/25 18:29:13 (permalink)
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Also note that we have updated the product pictures at EVGA.com to reflect the production components that shipped to gamers and enthusiasts since day 1 of product launch.
Once you receive the card you can compare for yourself, EVGA stands behind its products!
 
Thanks
EVGA

 



The Ultra versions of the FTW3 3080 and 3090 still show the old picture.
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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs 2020/09/25 18:29:41 (permalink)
one...which may not be good enough. Remember...they are mum about other cards...only talk about the good, dont address the bad... PR 101.
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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs 2020/09/25 18:29:52 (permalink)
 
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Maxidrom2002
U guys knew about this issue weeks, if not months ago...and you are all coming out of the closet now...ONLY BECAUSE OF INDEPENDENT REPORTING. This is not how u build trust...


Their cards don't have the issue.. nothing to come clean about. They aren't involved in other cards manufacturing



Yup, apparently some people have reading comprehension issues.
 





 
 
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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs 2020/09/25 18:29:52 (permalink)
Thank you


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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs 2020/09/25 18:31:07 (permalink)
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I'm dumb.  How many of the good squares out of six does the XC3 Ultra have?


2/6 have the "good" MLCC squares.

It is nowhere proven that more --> all six would be better, a combination of both might be perfectly fine and balanced.... Jacob said they tested it and now made 2 in it, so I trust them that 2 are enough


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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs 2020/09/25 18:31:28 (permalink)
Thanks (as usual) for you upfront and honest communication! Any chance of a restock tonigh!? Plleeeaaasseee!
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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs 2020/09/25 18:31:40 (permalink)
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U guys knew about this issue weeks, if not months ago...and you are all coming out of the closet now...ONLY BECAUSE OF INDEPENDENT REPORTING. This is not how u build trust...


Their cards don't have the issue.. nothing to come clean about. They aren't involved in other cards manufacturing



If their cards "don't" have issues, then what's been widely reported as the crashing problem being specifically due to the POSCAPs (which includes a large portion of the 4+20 cards) is completely inaccurate.  Either the EVGA cards do suffer the exact same problem, but not enough people have them yet for there to have been a widespread problem, or the initial theory is wrong.  Or I suppose EVGA is the outlier with their hardware supplier, and they are having custom POSCAPs and MLCCs that are not in any of the other cards...
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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs 2020/09/25 18:31:47 (permalink)
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Maxidrom2002
U guys knew about this issue weeks, if not months ago...and you are all coming out of the closet now...ONLY BECAUSE OF INDEPENDENT REPORTING. This is not how u build trust...


Their cards don't have the issue.. nothing to come clean about. They aren't involved in other cards manufacturing


Really...XC3s with only one MLCC isnt an issue?
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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs 2020/09/25 18:31:59 (permalink)
and you get a card and you get a card and you get a card 

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