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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs
2020/09/25 20:27:11
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It might contribute to some issues, but clearly 6 SP Caps doesn't just brick every card that goes over 2 GHz because Steve from GamersNexus overclocked a 3080 FTW with 6 SP Caps to +250 MHz core +1000 MHz memory. Anything that might cause stability issues at 2 GHz would likely not work at all at 2.3 GHz
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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs
2020/09/25 20:28:27
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Hmm, I was wondering why EVGA added the FTW3 Ultra to the Step Up program first. I figured is was to offload all the "Red Accent" models. Perhaps was I wrong it was actually to offload all the 6 POSCAP models? lol
Did you read EVGA's statement??? No retail customer boards were shipped with 6 cheaper caps, those only went to reviewers, who are getting replacement boards.
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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs
2020/09/25 20:29:56
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I'll take a kingpin signed by Jacob and Vince! Hehe
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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs
2020/09/25 20:30:19
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What about those who bought the XC3 Ultra Gaming? Shoulda got the FTW.... :(
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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs
2020/09/25 20:31:15
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Been very impressed with EVGA's communication the past week. Everybody else has shutdown and Jacob has been great at communicating with everybody.
100% agreed. Watching them navigate through this has made me determined to move more of my rig to EVGA products.
I agree too ! I mean, I already moved to EVGA GPUs 3 and half years ago and also will consider other ones. But the way they thrive through each " hardship " ou issue makes me love them more and more each time. Hearing feedback, reacting in accordance, and communicating to us... +1000 for EVGA.
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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs
2020/09/25 20:31:34
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Always say buy top of the line model for a reason!
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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs
2020/09/25 20:32:47
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Hi all,
Recently there has been some discussion about the EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 series.
During our mass production QC testing we discovered a full 6 POSCAPs solution cannot pass the real world applications testing. It took almost a week of R&D effort to find the cause and reduce the POSCAPs to 4 and add 20 MLCC caps prior to shipping production boards, this is why the EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 FTW3 series was delayed at launch. There were no 6 POSCAP production EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 FTW3 boards shipped.
But, due to the time crunch, some of the reviewers were sent a pre-production version with 6 POSCAP’s, we are working with those reviewers directly to replace their boards with production versions.
EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 XC3 series with 5 POSCAPs + 10 MLCC solution is matched with the XC3 spec without issues.
Also note that we have updated the product pictures at EVGA.com to reflect the production components that shipped to gamers and enthusiasts since day 1 of product launch.
Once you receive the card you can compare for yourself, EVGA stands behind its products!
Thanks
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A big thank you for this information update!!  Two things, if I may: Please get Newegg (and anyone else) to update EVGA product photos because they still show 6-poscap designs on literally all EVGA 3080+3090 cards. Second thing, I have been unable to load evga.com since launch. It is HTTP 502 and has never loaded even once, not a single time from my desktop nor phone. I don't understand how others are able to access the product pages or other parts of the EVGA website, is there IP range blocking in effect because of the bots? I am not looking to buy right now but it means I have to get all my product information on EVGA cards elsewhere, nor can I access tools or support information for people. Clear your browser cookies and site info. I had to do this on Firefox and the site started loading for me again. Only happened right at launch for some reason.
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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs
2020/09/25 20:33:44
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So are the XC3 cards okay? I have one on order through Amazon and am not sure if I need to cancel it. If I am understanding the video right, they are not since they only have one array of caps.
post edited by tlaack - 2020/09/25 20:38:51
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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs
2020/09/25 20:33:59
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Can anyone confirm they have an FTW3 Ultra 3080 and successfully OC'd past 2Ghz without crashes?
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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs
2020/09/25 20:36:13
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The communication through this launch is a reason I'm going EVGA from here on out. they won a fan here thanks Jacob!
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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs
2020/09/25 20:37:17
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Steve used Liquid Nitrogen so the card would be running too cool to trip the 6 post caps.
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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs
2020/09/25 20:37:49
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Thanks for the update! Much appreciated.
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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs
2020/09/25 20:38:24
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jayrwar
Can anyone confirm they have an FTW3 Ultra 3080 and successfully OC'd past 2Ghz without crashes?
2340 MHz no crashes with 6 SP Caps, all consumer FTW3s have 4 SP Caps and 20 MLCCs
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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs
2020/09/25 20:40:21
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So are the XC3 cards okay? I have one on order through Amazon and am not sure if I need to cancel it.
From what we know, yes. Should be okay for two reasons : - Should boost / OC less than FTW3, so like Jacob said : " EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 XC3 series with 5 POSCAPs + 10 MLCC solution is matched with the XC3 spec without issues. " meaning XC3 shouldn't get that issue unless you push it beyond boosting (manual OC, and even then not sure you'll experience that). Note that I use " should / shouldn't " and not " won't " because I speak with information and knowledge I have right now - It's the reference layout that NVIDIA sent to partners manufacturers. They (Nvidia) just went to 2 MLCC to biff it up more, same for EVGA FTW3. Above would seem counterproductive though, it's all about equilibrium.
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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs
2020/09/25 20:40:53
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So I have the 3080 xc ultra and I'm getting major hitching in most games, anyone else experiencing this?
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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs
2020/09/25 20:44:16
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Still find it odd they used 220uF instead of 470uF, or 2 of each like the FE, for the SP Caps. Unless the FE used 22uF on the MLCCs and EVGA is using 47uF...would have equal capacitance...but this is the FTW3...would expect better. Strix looks to be rolling with 47uF for all 60 MLCCs per Buildzoid...giving more capacity with a better component.
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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs
2020/09/25 20:44:55
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Grateful for information but not lets forget they knew about this for some time now and never said anything until the customers had to find out on their own. This could have been information given BEFORE launch to let people know about shortages of cards. Great they fixed and added MLCC caps... I would hate to be a gigabyte purchaser right now.
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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs
2020/09/25 20:45:06
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So you are a reviewer? Only reviewers got the 6 SP cap versions.
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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs
2020/09/25 20:45:26
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From what we know, yes. Should be okay for two reasons :
- Should boost / OC less than FTW3, so like Jacob said : " EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 XC3 series with 5 POSCAPs + 10 MLCC solution is matched with the XC3 spec without issues. " meaning XC3 shouldn't get that issue unless you push it beyond boosting (manual OC, and even then not sure you'll experience that). Note that I use " should / shouldn't " and not " won't " because I speak with information and knowledge I have right now
- It's the reference layout that NVIDIA sent to partners manufacturers. They (Nvidia) just went to 2 MLCC to biff it up more, same for EVGA FTW3. Above would seem counterproductive though, it's all about equilibrium.
Thank you! I didn't follow that part due to seeing the reference uncover. My brain thought "oh no, not good, it doesn't match the base model!" Thanks for the explanation.
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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs
2020/09/25 20:46:09
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I don't blame EVGA all. NVIDIA provided flawed specs and the withheld the drivers needed to test the card to make sure the performance remained secret. EVGA delayed their release to fix the problem they identified during testing. NO consumers were affected. To me, they did everything right.
Certainly EVGA comes off looking better than some of their competitors who didn't catch it and sold the faulty 6 POSCAP design.
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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs
2020/09/25 20:46:24
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Grateful for information but not lets forget they knew about this for some time now and never said anything until the customers had to find out on their own. This could have been information given BEFORE launch to let people know about shortages of cards. Great they fixed and added MLCC caps... I would hate to be a gigabyte purchaser right now.
It was only the reviewers that had pre-production models (Not final retail version) that had the issue. Everyone since launch is fine.
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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs
2020/09/25 20:48:03
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It's funny, everyone saying "gO wiTh THe aSuS STriX!"
The Strix photos on Newegg show 6 POSCAPS. lol
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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs
2020/09/25 20:49:59
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On their website, it's 60 MLCC so they probably found the same issue as eVGA but went the 60 MLCC instead.
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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs
2020/09/25 20:54:02
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It's funny, everyone saying "gO wiTh THe aSuS STriX!"
The Strix photos on Newegg show 6 POSCAPS. lol
Lots of fervent Asus fans...just like EVGA fans. Agree though...and unless someone sticks each card on an oscilloscope to see the transients, there's nothing saying the 4 SP Caps and 20 MLCCs isn't enough to handle it. Would be interested to see the difference in overall capacitance as well... Also - Strix is all but confirmed 60 MLCCs in production variant. Still holding out for a FTW3 Hybrid, but will be interesting to see how things shake out over the next month while I wait.
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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs
2020/09/25 20:55:20
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Well atleast Jacob clean up the air.
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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs
2020/09/25 20:56:08
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Personally, I think a lot of people are making a mountain out of a mole hill with this. Another reason I don't overclock much, if at all. I can almost bet the people seeing issues are the one trying to overclock to ~2,100mhz on their reference pcb boards with these new cards.
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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs
2020/09/25 20:58:01
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Now back to your regular program.
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Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 SP-CAPs
2020/09/25 20:59:27
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Thanks very much for the official statement! I will be glad for this to blow over. Maybe within 2 days all those other threads can be buried; and maybe this thread will be stickied to keep additional threads from being created. Whatever the case, I hope that this topic can die. Let's hope. I don't know why so many people seem to find it necessary to create so many parallel threads. It's nuts. EDIT: Fixed subject to correct nomenclature to read "SP-CAPs" instead of "POSCAPs"
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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs
2020/09/25 20:59:56
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This is why I’m loyal to this brand. Thanks for all the everything you do to keep all us customers updated, Jacob!
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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs
2020/09/25 21:01:21
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Im holding out for the 3080 Hydro Copper. Will those ship with a 4+2 array like the FTW3 or a 5+1 array thats under suspect?
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